HxFx Posted January 22, 2022 #101 Share Posted January 22, 2022 13 hours ago, abby1257 said: What is sip and cover? Pull your mask down to have a sip/gulp and then pull it back up in between sips. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abby1257 Posted January 22, 2022 #102 Share Posted January 22, 2022 19 hours ago, nwcruiselover said: I just received 6 emails from Carnival notifying me of continuation of the protocols. They are offering full refunds for people with cruises booked from April 2022 onwards, but only till February 15th, after which normal penalties apply. did I miss something....would my March 26/22 cruise be fully refunded? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djptcp Posted January 22, 2022 #103 Share Posted January 22, 2022 I'm glad the Covid protocols will be continued by Carnival. I wish they would add that a booster shot would also be required. Holland America must be getting pressure to add the booster to its requireents as we received an email from them early last week asking if a booster was required, would we still cruise. I said definitely yes. The more we can do to mitigate Covid the better off we will all be. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwcruiselover Posted January 22, 2022 #104 Share Posted January 22, 2022 2 hours ago, abby1257 said: did I miss something....would my March 26/22 cruise be fully refunded? According to the communication that was sent out you should be able to cancel for a full refund. The on-line cancellation link doesn’t work for most cruises though, so you’ll have to call Carnival to cancel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ontheweb Posted January 22, 2022 #105 Share Posted January 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, nwcruiselover said: According to the communication that was sent out you should be able to cancel for a full refund. The on-line cancellation link doesn’t work for most cruises though, so you’ll have to call Carnival to cancel. Or call your TA, depending on how you booked the cruise. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nlktx49 Posted January 22, 2022 Author #106 Share Posted January 22, 2022 21 hours ago, BlerkOne said: Looks like the testing company Carnival uses didn't get the complete memo, but they have done some updating... https://rapidcruisetesting.com/ I wondered if the $10 per test was a typo, since previously it was $100 per person. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowballs mom Posted January 22, 2022 #107 Share Posted January 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, nlktx49 said: I wondered if the $10 per test was a typo, since previously it was $100 per person. I had the same thought. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucfan2 Posted January 22, 2022 #108 Share Posted January 22, 2022 18 hours ago, abby1257 said: What is sip and cover? The same as 'shooting at an invisible target'. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted January 22, 2022 #109 Share Posted January 22, 2022 5 hours ago, ontheweb said: And if absolutely no one cruises, there will be no $600 OBC. Do you think Carnival would be happy with that situration? Dream on. People ARE cruising. Lots of people. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britbritrawr09 Posted January 22, 2022 #110 Share Posted January 22, 2022 3 hours ago, nlktx49 said: I wondered if the $10 per test was a typo, since previously it was $100 per person. The article I read was that they wanted to make it more affordable. Probably because people are having a hard time getting tests. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelplus Posted January 22, 2022 #111 Share Posted January 22, 2022 On 1/21/2022 at 10:05 AM, groundloop said: Not at all surprising. I don't mind, if I need to get tested and mask up to get on a ship so be it (especially if it means I can go to the casino without smelling the stench of stale smoke). Agree 300 percent! We don't need the smoke from the casino at least not me. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucfan2 Posted January 23, 2022 #112 Share Posted January 23, 2022 19 hours ago, BlerkOne said: Dream on. People ARE cruising. Lots of people. Wow. As a shareholder, I sure hope the bean counters or management don't agree w/ you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kehote Posted January 23, 2022 #113 Share Posted January 23, 2022 39 minutes ago, bucfan2 said: Wow. As a shareholder, I sure hope the bean counters or management don't agree w/ you. You hope that people aren't sailing...as a stockholder? Do you hold deep OTM puts or somthing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucfan2 Posted January 23, 2022 #114 Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Don Kehote said: You hope that people aren't sailing...as a stockholder? Do you hold deep OTM puts or somthing? Quite the contrary. I hope that the bean counters, as well as mgt, do not feel that there are 'lots of people cruising'. 'Lots' is relative; when looking at occupancy on ships today, there are not 'lots of people cruising'. Edited January 23, 2022 by bucfan2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ontheweb Posted January 23, 2022 #115 Share Posted January 23, 2022 22 hours ago, BlerkOne said: Dream on. People ARE cruising. Lots of people. Then why are people commenting on how they love the low capacity as there are no lines or waiting? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipmaster Posted January 23, 2022 #116 Share Posted January 23, 2022 On 1/21/2022 at 10:37 AM, lowroller said: Wished they stopped with the testing and just keep everything else. But I'm still sailing.... Testing is a false containment, we were negative flying into Orlando, negative night before, negative at disembarkation, positive and sick after the cruise. It's endemic and if you cruise you need to accept that the probability of getting it currently is very high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kehote Posted January 23, 2022 #117 Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 hours ago, bucfan2 said: Quite the contrary. I hope that the bean counters, as well as mgt, do not feel that there are 'lots of people cruising'. 'Lots' is relative; when looking at occupancy on ships today, there are not 'lots of people cruising'. Is there a particular capacity that needs to be reached to transition from Some to Lots? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted January 23, 2022 #118 Share Posted January 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, chipmaster said: Testing is a false containment, we were negative flying into Orlando, negative night before, negative at disembarkation, positive and sick after the cruise. It's endemic and if you cruise you need to accept that the probability of getting it currently is very high It's a pandemic and testing stop a lot of it from getting onto ships. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted January 23, 2022 #119 Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 hours ago, bucfan2 said: Quite the contrary. I hope that the bean counters, as well as mgt, do not feel that there are 'lots of people cruising'. 'Lots' is relative; when looking at occupancy on ships today, there are not 'lots of people cruising'. Carnival's last 5 ships will be sailing within 2-3 months. That lots of ships - from 0 to all - sailing in less than a year. It's free to listen to earnings and business update calls " Carnival Corporation expects to return to profitability in the second half of 2022, according to Arnold Donald, president and CEO, who spoke on Monday's fourth quarter business update conference call. And for 2023, he expects EBITDA to be higher than it was in 2019. Carnival already turned cash positive in November, according to David Bernstein, CFO, a month ahead of expectations. Increased operating expenses for 2022 are due to restart and drydock costs and are not expected to reoccur in 2023." 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucfan2 Posted January 23, 2022 #120 Share Posted January 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Don Kehote said: Is there a particular capacity that needs to be reached to transition from Some to Lots? Good question. I guess some would call the 65% drop in ccl stock the past 5 years 'some'...some would call it 'lots'. Some would apply common sense to conclude how the cruise lines are doing. Or be a smart a$$. Whatever floats your boat. My concern is low 35-50% ship occupancy (despite the free/low prices), and the general public only willing to jump thru the draconian protocols once before deciding to spend vacation $'s in a different way. But 'too big to fail' is a belief among some. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucfan2 Posted January 23, 2022 #121 Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 minute ago, BlerkOne said: Carnival's last 5 ships will be sailing within 2-3 months. That lots of ships - from 0 to all - sailing in less than a year. It's free to listen to earnings and business update calls " Carnival Corporation expects to return to profitability in the second half of 2022, according to Arnold Donald, president and CEO, who spoke on Monday's fourth quarter business update conference call. And for 2023, he expects EBITDA to be higher than it was in 2019. Carnival already turned cash positive in November, according to David Bernstein, CFO, a month ahead of expectations. Increased operating expenses for 2022 are due to restart and drydock costs and are not expected to reoccur in 2023." You go ahead and listen to whatever free update you want...I'll follow the stock drop of 65% in the past 5 years as part of my update. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted January 23, 2022 #122 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Some people toss out statistics like they know what they are talking about. Meanwhile, the people with access to real financial data are making the business decisions. Who to believe? 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipmaster Posted January 23, 2022 #123 Share Posted January 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, BlerkOne said: It's a pandemic and testing stop a lot of it from getting onto ships. Unless you adopt measures like Taiwan or other places, while some mitigation, not going to stop it. When I return to Taiwan I need to be PCR negative when I get on the plane, tested again on arrival. Go into 7 day quarantine with test mid and end of quarantine, all negative, followed by another 7 days of home self managed quarantine. It is only if you do that can you prevent bleed in, an even than they have two incidents of escapes, very difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted January 23, 2022 #124 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Lots of companies have dropped lots more - like 100% - since 2016. The latest might be Genting who is still selling cruises even after appointing a liquidator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucfan2 Posted January 23, 2022 #125 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Just now, BlerkOne said: Some people toss out statistics like they know what they are talking about. Meanwhile, the people with access to real financial data are making the business decisions. Who to believe? 🤣 True indeed. Most individuals discover if they follow the $, it will lead to the source of truth/who to believe. Not being a cheer leader, I believe this philosophy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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