Retreat question

[TiffyAnn]

My mom is taking my sister and I to Alaska and we are in a sky suite.  Are all sky suites part of the Retreat?  

[canderson]

Yes.  All Sky Suite guests have access to the Retreat lounge and any other areas that your specific ship sets aside for retreat guests (e.g., Luminae restaurant).  Different ships that have or haven't been updated may have slightly different offerings.

[pauly]

Yes, as it is a suite.

 

[kwokpot]

It's a fair question. Sky Suites in most other cruiselines would be considered a junior suite and may be treated differently. Royal, for example, doesn't grant full suite amenities to their junior suites. It's great that Celebrity does treat their junior suites as the same.

[PTC DAWG]

https://www.celebritycruises.com/things-to-do-onboard/staterooms/suite-class

[TiffyAnn]

Thanks.  One more question.  When I look at the cruise for excursions it shows that I can purchase a better drink package.  Is the one that is with the suit the premium one?

[39august]

Yes, it is premium for suites. 

[pauly]

3 hours ago, kwokpot said:

It's a fair question. Sky Suites in most other cruiselines would be considered a junior suite and may be treated differently. Royal, for example, doesn't grant full suite amenities to their junior suites. It's great that Celebrity does treat their junior suites as the same.

If they were "junior suites" they would be called Junior Suites. Yes the parent company is Royal Caribbean International. They are Sky Suites,  on a totally different cruiseline.

Edited March 3, 2022 by pauly

[kwokpot]

30 minutes ago, pauly said:

If they were "junior suites" they would be called Junior Suites. Yes the parent company is Royal Caribbean International. They are Sky Suites,  on a totally different cruiseline.

I don't understand the point your trying to make. Real suites have separate rooms. A Sky suite is just a larger room,which is what most cruiselines call a junior suite. Same thing as Celebrity calling a balcony room a veranda. I was making a distinction between Celebrity and Royal which was appropo to the original question.

[wrk2cruise]

Yes if you are booked with the Always Included Retreat pricing (which most people are) it includes the Indulge package.  Premium Beverage Package,  Stream (or Premium) Wifi,  Gratuities, and OBC amount depending on the length of your sailing.

[dkjretired]

It’s just a name each company gives. All Celebrity suites have full suite benefits which means years ago a butler and always have.We had a sky suite on the Horizon 30 years ago and had Nikki the butler. Again it’s only a name.

[pauly]

58 minutes ago, kwokpot said:

I don't understand the point your trying to make. Real suites have separate rooms. A Sky suite is just a larger room,which is what most cruiselines call a junior suite. Same thing as Celebrity calling a balcony room a veranda. I was making a distinction between Celebrity and Royal which was appropo to the original question.

The point I was trying to make is that Sky Suites on Celebrity Cruiseline are not "junior suites"

[kwokpot]

Just now, pauly said:

The point I was trying to make is that Sky Suites on Celebrity Cruiseline are not "junior suites"

I beg to differ.

[pauly]

Just now, kwokpot said:

I beg to differ.

Okay, well that is your opinion, and you are entitled to it. Happy Sailing!

[kwokpot]

13 minutes ago, pauly said:

Okay, well that is your opinion, and you are entitled to it. Happy Sailing!

From cruise critic,which basically echoes what I wrote:

https://www.cruisecritic.com/articles.cfm?ID=1801

Edited March 3, 2022 by kwokpot

[LGW59]

29 minutes ago, pauly said:

The point I was trying to make is that Sky Suites on Celebrity Cruiseline are not "junior suites"

The first time I ever sailed in a "suite" was on NCL Sun, the penthouse suite for 14 days, forward facing, loved it.  But IMO, having sailed in a EDGE SS, there is really no comparison, I got hooked and to me it def is a suite, nothing junior about it.  Only nod compare to the NCL PH, was the balcony, we love forward facing, but will take SS any time of the day.

[pauly]

5 minutes ago, LGW59 said:

The first time I ever sailed in a "suite" was on NCL Sun, the penthouse suite for 14 days, forward facing, loved it.  But IMO, having sailed in a EDGE SS, there is really no comparison, I got hooked and to me it def is a suite, nothing junior about it.  Only nod compare to the NCL PH, was the balcony, we love forward facing, but will take SS any time of the day.

Me too. There is no comparison to a junior suite. Been in both and there’s a very big difference. The SS is a real suite!

[mfs2k]

20 minutes ago, pauly said:

Me too. There is no comparison to a junior suite. Been in both and there’s a very big difference. The SS is a real suite!

A suite in land-based hotels typically have a separate living room from the bedroom. 

A two bedroom suite has a living room and two bedrooms.  Some have kitchens or kitchenettes. 

A hotel Junior suite is typically larger than a standard guest room.

 

I agree that Celebrity is taking a bit of poetic license with their terminology for a Sky Suite.  The room itself is more like a land based Junior Suite. 

 

What makes a sky suite sweet are the perks, the inclusion in the Retreat and access to Luminae. You're paying for that and the additional square footage a larger room, balcony and bathroom occupy on the ship. 

If you want a real suite experience you'll have to pay a lot more for the cabins with separate bedrooms from living rooms. 

[canderson]

4 hours ago, TiffyAnn said:

Thanks.  One more question.  When I look at the cruise for excursions it shows that I can purchase a better drink package.  Is the one that is with the suit the premium one?

Not to worry.  The online upgrades are redundant in your case.

 

If you bought the entire ship, the Celebrity IT dept would still try to sell you a drink package upgrade.

[pauly]

16 minutes ago, mfs2k said:

A suite in land-based hotels typically have a separate living room from the bedroom. 

A two bedroom suite has a living room and two bedrooms.  Some have kitchens or kitchenettes. 

A hotel Junior suite is typically larger than a standard guest room.

 

I agree that Celebrity is taking a bit of poetic license with their terminology for a Sky Suite.  The room itself is more like a land based Junior Suite. 

 

What makes a sky suite sweet are the perks, the inclusion in the Retreat and access to Luminae. You're paying for that and the additional square footage a larger room, balcony and bathroom occupy on the ship. 

If you want a real suite experience you'll have to pay a lot more for the cabins with separate bedrooms from living rooms. 

You are correct I guess if you want to define a suite by the amount of actual cabin space you get. I am referring to the Butler, the perks and the amenities that you don't get in a junior suite on Royal.

 

[DaKahuna]

6 hours ago, kwokpot said:

It's a fair question. Sky Suites in most other cruiselines would be considered a junior suite and may be treated differently. Royal, for example, doesn't grant full suite amenities to their junior suites. It's great that Celebrity does treat their junior suites as the same.

I do not understand why Sky Suites are equated to Junior Suites on Royal Caribbean.

 

On Royal Caribbian Junior Suites are in their own Suite Class. 

On Celebrity Sky Suites are in the same Suite Class as Celebrity Suites.

 

The Price Difference between Aqua/Concierge and Sky Suites is akin to the Price difference between a Junior Suite and a Grand Suite.  

 

IHMO as Sky Suite on Celebrity is the more similar to a Grand Suite on Royal than it is to a Junior Suite. 

 

[LGW59]

11 minutes ago, DaKahuna said:

I do not understand why Sky Suites are equated to Junior Suites on Royal Caribbean.

 

On Royal Caribbian Junior Suites are in their own Suite Class. 

On Celebrity Sky Suites are in the same Suite Class as Celebrity Suites.

 

The Price Difference between Aqua/Concierge and Sky Suites is akin to the Price difference between a Junior Suite and a Grand Suite.  

 

IHMO as Sky Suite on Celebrity is the more similar to a Grand Suite on Royal than it is to a Junior Suite. 

 

They offer a concierge.  Is he/she the same as a butler would be in Celebrity in SS or more akin to a steward?

 

[phoenix_dream]

Regardless of what the name is or how it differs from other lines or hotels, the bottom line is on Celebrity the Sky Suites are treated like other suites as regards basic suite amenities, and they definitely have the pricing structure to go along with it!  They are definitely not priced as a junior anything.