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48 minutes ago, peanutzmom said:

Perhaps that has changed due to COVID and/or short staffing, but it was not the case last week. It opened around 7am and closed at (I think) 10pm. The only thing open later was Sorrento’s and even that closed at either midnight or 1am (I can’t remember).

When we cruised in Nov, I believe the Cafe Promenade was open 24 hours and in Feb, the Compass showed it was open 24 hours as well.  I have to be honest, I don't go  there before 7AM nor do I go after 1AM.  

 

I don't know if your cruise was different for some reason or if the Compass had the wrong info.

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We are fairly cruise line agnostic but being here in San Diego, we generally take Carnival more since the prices are good and we can do the four day cruises more often.

 

Haven't been on the Oasis class ships but the amount of people and needing to make reservations for everything turns me off. I dont' want to feel rushed or pressured to make plans the fist five minutes I'm on the ship.

 

I've never been on a bad Carnival cruise but I just wished they'd implement something like O'Sheehans for late night food options. I've never been impressed with Carnivals late night food options and while pizza is good, it gets tiresome your third and forth night. I love NCL for O'Sheehans.

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6 minutes ago, pc_load_letter said:

We are fairly cruise line agnostic but being here in San Diego, we generally take Carnival more since the prices are good and we can do the four day cruises more often.

 

Haven't been on the Oasis class ships but the amount of people and needing to make reservations for everything turns me off. I dont' want to feel rushed or pressured to make plans the fist five minutes I'm on the ship.

 

I've never been on a bad Carnival cruise but I just wished they'd implement something like O'Sheehans for late night food options. I've never been impressed with Carnivals late night food options and while pizza is good, it gets tiresome your third and forth night. I love NCL for O'Sheehans.

 

Just to clarify you make most of your plans before you get on the Oasis class ships. Also you bring up the point of so many people. The ship is so big and by making plans ahead of time the people are spread out. Sometimes you look around and wonder where everybody is.

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6 minutes ago, Illbcruzn4life said:

 

Just to clarify you make most of your plans before you get on the Oasis class ships. Also you bring up the point of so many people. The ship is so big and by making plans ahead of time the people are spread out. Sometimes you look around and wonder where everybody is.

 

Yeah, I guess that's just not how my wife and I like to cruise. We enjoy anytime dining so we look at activities and shows, agree on what time we want to eat, maybe have drinks before hand, then play it by ear.

 

If comedy butts up against a show I've made a reservation months ago for, well that would surely suck.

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6 hours ago, vp1 said:

Our thoughts having just completed a RCCL cruise (Anthem) a couple of weeks ago and having been on 20+ Carnival cruises...

 

1. Cabin - Balcony cabin on RCCL was much nicer than our balcony cabins on Carnival.  The outside door is a sliding door (which can be easily left open...), you walk out into the center of the balcony - chairs on either side.  The chairs recline and have foot rests that slide under the chairs when not used - much better than the set up on Carnival.  The shower had a clear plastic surround (not like the Carnival shower curtain that loves to give you hugs in the shower...).  The TV was bigger, newer and nicer and was on the wall opposite the bed - easy viewing. (A few more channels than Carnival, but still not "many" choices...)  Twice a day room service is still the RCCL norm - on our most recent Carnival cruises a couple of months ago we were told by the steward that, "...because of COVID..." they could only clean the room once a day... ?!

2. Dining - Our experience was that the RCCL main dining room food (we never ate in the specialty restaurants) was on par with Carnival.  The dining room itself was much nicer - not the cavernous space that is the norm on Carnival; RCCL dining rooms were much more "broken up" and quainter  (just our opinion).  Huge down-side with RCCL, however, is that with "anytime dining" you have to make a reservation on the app and, if you don't make your reservations as soon as you can (i.e., as soon as you walk on the ship day 1...), you may find, as we did, that trying to reserve a table for the same day only has options for late dining (8:15 or even later...); reserving on the RCCL app is more convenient than milling outside the restaurant and constantly re-checking your phone with anytime dining on Carnival, but frustrating when you'd like to sit down for an early dinner...  We thought the RCCL buffet was equal to Carnival  (maybe even a little better on RCCL); we had also purchased the soda package and having the self-serve Coke (!) machines around the ship made for super convenient re-filling of the insulated mugs they give you.

3. Entertainment - No comparison.  (We were on an Oasis-class RCCL ship that has a huge show room).  The production shows here were outstanding - 20+ performers with a live band of 8 or so musicians - Carnival's shows are a pale comparison.  The Two70 venue (at the aft of the ship) is an impressive show venue as well, though you need to be there early to get the relatively few seats with excellent views.

4. Casino - Carnival is much better here.  My sense is that RCCL doesn't really cater to a gambling crowd; all of the table games have $10 minimums, even though our sailing had just over 3,000 passengers, the casino was mostly empty except for a few hours after-dinner.  The table game payouts are also different than Carnivals - the casino experience is not a reason that I'd pick RCCL.

5. Overall experience - Our sense is that, if you're a fan of these mega-ships, Carnival is a pale comparison.  There were many lounges, bars, etc. that had much more character than the Carnival ships; a bigger variety of things to do on the pool deck, etc. (The center section of the pool deck can be covered with a retractable roof if the weather is poor.)  We did go to a bunch of the "activities" - Trivia is much better on Carnival, for example.  Also, there was a "necklace making" activity one day that my wife wanted to go to, (the same activity on a different cruise line a few weeks ago was totally free), the one on RCCL had a $7 "fee"... (we passed).

Our overall impression was that, if the price was comparable, we'd sail with RCCL again, but we're very happy with the current price point for our Carnival cruises (11 more coming up this year...)

So, we did Oasis in January and Mardi Gras in March.  I am going to sumrise that you have not been on Mardi Gras.

 

1)  Our balcony stateroom (to our surprise, actually) was better on Mardi Gras than on Oasis.  Part of that due to the awesome balcony we had (12476).  However we felt the stateroom had a fresher look on Mardi Gras.  Bathroom is smaller (not Virgin Voyages small, but close), but it has a glass shower door.  

 

2)  On Mardi Gras, we never ate in the MDR.  Also, we hardly ever upcharged.  Since Cucina del Capitano, Chibang, and Pig and Anchor are all included, you could eat there as well.  Also, we stuffed ourselves at Emeril's and it was like $18 for the two of us (the big bowl of Red Beans and Rice is only $3).  I'll give Royal the edge on Coke, mainly because they have Coke products, but Mardi Gras had self-serve soda fountains as well.  I think if you want a higher level of food in MDRs/Buffets, you probably need to be on Princess/Celebrity/HAL or if you want an even better food experience, Virgin Voyages.

 

3)  Be glad you weren't on Oasis.  I had read the reviews of "Cats" in the RCCL forums and thought "It can't be that bad!"...  Yes, it can...

 

4)  I thought that the Casino was the biggest difference in the ships.  The Mardi Gras casino made the one on Oasis look like a library...

 

All this to say, I'll take any cruise, any day!!!!

 

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1 hour ago, bmc alabama said:

So, we did Oasis in January and Mardi Gras in March.  I am going to sumrise that you have not been on Mardi Gras.

 

1)  Our balcony stateroom (to our surprise, actually) was better on Mardi Gras than on Oasis.  Part of that due to the awesome balcony we had (12476).  However we felt the stateroom had a fresher look on Mardi Gras.  Bathroom is smaller (not Virgin Voyages small, but close), but it has a glass shower door.  

 

2)  On Mardi Gras, we never ate in the MDR.  Also, we hardly ever upcharged.  Since Cucina del Capitano, Chibang, and Pig and Anchor are all included, you could eat there as well.  Also, we stuffed ourselves at Emeril's and it was like $18 for the two of us (the big bowl of Red Beans and Rice is only $3).  I'll give Royal the edge on Coke, mainly because they have Coke products, but Mardi Gras had self-serve soda fountains as well.  I think if you want a higher level of food in MDRs/Buffets, you probably need to be on Princess/Celebrity/HAL or if you want an even better food experience, Virgin Voyages.

 

3)  Be glad you weren't on Oasis.  I had read the reviews of "Cats" in the RCCL forums and thought "It can't be that bad!"...  Yes, it can...

 

4)  I thought that the Casino was the biggest difference in the ships.  The Mardi Gras casino made the one on Oasis look like a library...

 

All this to say, I'll take any cruise, any day!!!!

 

Lol on your Cats comment. Been on Oasis twice. First time i fell asleep and left at intermission. Second time they had technical difficulties and it was mercifully canceled.

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My first cruise ever was on RCL and that's all I ever sailed for a long time.

 

Overall, I've sailed equally on Carnival and RCL with a few others thrown in and prefer Carnival now for the better deals but wouldn't hesitate to sail RCL again as long as it's on one of the smaller, older ships.

Wouldn't sail any of the monstrosities on either line.  Ever.

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13 hours ago, Ralphinsc said:

 but the overall drink package is a better deal on Royal. 

Why do you think so? When I researched an RCI cruise, it appeared that they don't have an equivalent to the Alchemy Bar. Not only that, but they appear to have the same drink menu across all of the bars on the ship, and it didn't seem very imaginative. About $10/day more expensive, to boot. I'm curious to hear your thoughts.

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I have been on one rci cruise and it was boring at 9:30 pm and after. They also are constantly pushing extras..I felt nickel and dimed.

 

Many more charges for food establishments..you literally have to hunt for included food..And the free pizza gets old fast.

 

carnival mardi gras and celebration are getting close to rci shipwise but kill rci with free quality food, much nicer spa, late hour entertainment.

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Our overall impression after our one and only RCI cruise was that they were very pushy on up selling throughout the entire cruise. The quality of the food, entertainment and ambience on board was similar between our Carnival cruises and the RCI cruise. Given the extra cost of the RCI cruise we didn't feel it was as good in terms of value for money.

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38 minutes ago, gsb said:

The choices on an Oasis class ship are unrivaled!

 

For what?  On Mardi Gras there are 22 restaurants, so certainly not for food.  Nor comedy shows, or live entertainment.  I love Oasis and Allure, but if you haven't tried MG, you should check it out. 

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As someone who hasn't sailed RCL, but had read their info quite a bit, and in reviewing this thread it seems like:

 

1) RCL and CCL are very, very similar.

 

2) When comparing ships of a similar size/age, in general the RCL ships are a bit nicer.

 

3) RCL is upcharge heavy in comparison.

 

4) It is pretty much required to schedule things in advance on RCL.  Thus you are pretty much garenteed to have a seat at the things you want, but will have to follow the schedule you've created.

 

That sound about right?

 

I've also seen tons of the specialty activities on RCL that Carnival does not have, such as the Flo-Rider and rock climbing walls.  Are those scheduled activities too?  Is it realistic to think you'll actually be able to do those things if you want to?

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17 hours ago, sgttami said:

My first cruise ever was on RCL and that's all I ever sailed for a long time.

 

Overall, I've sailed equally on Carnival and RCL with a few others thrown in and prefer Carnival now for the better deals but wouldn't hesitate to sail RCL again as long as it's on one of the smaller, older ships.

Wouldn't sail any of the monstrosities on either line.  Ever.

Our first two cruises were on Royal Caribbean and enjoyed the cruises, but none since. I would also not ever sail on one of their monstrosities of the seas. We have since sailed on Carnival, Princess, HAL, and NCL. (And NCL Epic was way, way too big.)

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On 3/29/2022 at 4:27 AM, peanutzmom said:

Yes, we were on the Allure. As someone pointed out, we felt that there was a huge push to get people to eat at their six different specialty restaurants, so food at their complimentary dining areas was mediocre at best. Also, the availability was limited. There would be chunks of time when literally every dining area on the ship was closed, especially early morning (we’re early risers), mid-day, and late night. It wasn’t even the food that we were interested in. With all of the dining venues closed, we had no access to coffee, tea, water, and lemonade. We don’t do drink packages because we don’t drink enough to break even on them, so we depend on the complimentary beverage stations. Since there is a charge for room service, we couldn’t even contact them to bring us beverages.

 

There were definitely some pros - the three big shows were amazing! The Aqua Show, Ice Show, and Mama Mia musical all blew us away! Once we watched all three of them, though, we found the rest of the evening entertainment choices to be a bit lackluster. One thing in particular is that all of their evening music venues are right on top of each other in the Promenade, many of them “open air” style, so if (for example) we were trying to listen to the piano bar at the Schooner Bar, it was drowned out by the live samba music at Bolero, etc. Daytime activities on Sea Days were also lacking, and most of them were either for-fee or were trying to push you into buying things.

 

Another pro was the Solarium (adult only) area. It was much nicer than the Serenity areas on Carnival. And if our kids were still at home with us, they would have loved the free “extras” like the Flow Rider and the rock climbing wall. The young kids clubs, though, seemed more limited in my opinion, though we didn’t really pay that much attention since our kids are grown adults now.

 

Again, we still had a great time, and we would probably take another RCL cruise if the price and itinerary were right. But we’re definitely not going to “jump ship” and abandon Carnival based on this cruise.

 

WOW! Your opinion is almost identical to ours after 9 cruises on Carnival and 1 just recently on the Oasis of the Seas (and only RCCL cruise). 

 

1) There was absolutely a push to use the specialty dining venues. I thought the "included" food was fine, but no way close to what Carnival offers for "included" food, in particular the grab-and-go options. We loved the options available like Park Cafe & Cafe Promenade but the selections offered at them were MINISCULE to say the least. Park Cafe was better than Cafe Promenade, usually offering 3-4 sandwich options, salads, fruit cups, pastries while Cafe Promenade had mabe 2-3 pre-made sandwich offerings and a few pastries and coffees/teas. Sorrentos was better than Carnival in terms of how quickly you could get Pizza, but I find Carnival's pizza way better (especially now having gone on 2 carnival cruises this year so the perspective is fresh). Sea Dogs was a nice option on Oasis. The buffet on Oasis was MUCH better in terms of selection but quality was on par. Blue Iguana completely blows away El Loco Fresh on the Oasis, not even close. However, they did have more "options" at El Loco Fresh like tortilla chips, cheese sauce, different pre-made burritos, tacos, quesadillas but the quality was leaps and bounds different. Blue Iguana tastes FRESH made (and is right in front of you) where El Loco felt like a buffet, food sitting out for a while and no customizations and frankly meh in flavor. Oasis had NOTHING compared to Guys Burger; paid or otherwise. Johnny Rocket's is OK but expensive for just a burger craving. The DELI on Carnival destroys Royal. Yes, we could get "sandwiches" as mentioned earlier at Park/Promenade Cafe but they usually had pre-made and not personally liked options such as egg salad and cucumber (Wth). Just odd and no way to customize it. The DELI on Carnival has made to order wraps (my personal favorite), meatball sandwiches, cubans, paninis, hot dogs, and more plus french fries and cookies! I DID like that Royal had bags of chips available for quick grab and go, always nice with kids. 

 

Availability was the other issue, like you mentioned. There were times BETWEEN major meals that we could not find much to eat (like 1130-12, 330-5) as Park Cafe closed at 3 along with Sea Dogs and El Loco Fresh leaving just Cafe Promenade and Sorrentos as the only "included" options. However, the PAID dining was always available and open. Just not our preference. On Carnival, the buffet is basically open from 6am to noon for breakfast, Deli from 11am, Pizza 24 hours, Guys from about 1130 to 6, Blue Iguana from 8am to 3pm, and on the newer ships Shaq's Chicken (amazing) was open for breakfast AND lunch, Seaside BBQ was open on Embarkation and lunch on Sea days, build your own Pasta Bar at lunch. There were so many INCLUDED options on Carnival Radiance we couldn't even do all of them. 

 

2) Entertainment. YES, this is where I think Royal destroys Carnival with the exception of Comedy. The shows on Royal just seemed like going from the local theatre in town (Carnival) to Broadway (Royal). The production, singers, etc were SO much better. I don't even like the large shows that much but Royal definitely was better (though I wish they would get rid of Cats on Oasis). 

 

AQUA80s and the Aquatheatre on the Oasis are hands down some of the best shows I've EVER seen on land or sea. I went 3 times to the Aqua80s show, it was that fantastic. The ice skating show was phenomenal for the kids. 

 

The carousel out back was a huge hit with our youngest, as well as the Ultimate Abyss. Now, to be fair, we would LOVE to do the Mardi Gras as the roller coaster looked awesome. 

 

The POOLS on Oasis were MUCH better than on any Carnival ship we've been on. Nice and big, warm, and they had a FRESH WATER option as well. The splash park on the Oasis was PHENOMENAL (though the dump buckets were turned off, kinda annoying) and was a huge hit, though the Dream/Vista class ships on Carnival are pretty good as well, but Oasis was MUCh better (slides and playset were massive). 

 

I did notice that all of the entertainment on the Oasis at night was all centered around the Promenade, definitely making it a bit chaotic and loud. One thing I will NEVER understand on Carnival or Royal, why is guest services in the middle of the noisiest parts of the ship? So hard to hear! 

 

3) My youngest LOVED both Adventure Ocean and Camp Carnival. Can't get her to leave unless we make her! So for now that is a wash, both did well. Will need to see "post-covid" times on Royal to see how they truly compare. Our teenager much preferred the Oasis kids area over those at Club 02 on Carnival. They had an outdoor lounging area on the Oasis that is lacking on the Carnival ships. But, to be fair, they rarely hang out in the space anyway. 

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1 hour ago, JMKreno said:

 

WOW! Your opinion is almost identical to ours after 9 cruises on Carnival and 1 just recently on the Oasis of the Seas (and only RCCL cruise). 

 

1) There was absolutely a push to use the specialty dining venues. I thought the "included" food was fine, but no way close to what Carnival offers for "included" food, in particular the grab-and-go options. We loved the options available like Park Cafe & Cafe Promenade but the selections offered at them were MINISCULE to say the least. Park Cafe was better than Cafe Promenade, usually offering 3-4 sandwich options, salads, fruit cups, pastries while Cafe Promenade had mabe 2-3 pre-made sandwich offerings and a few pastries and coffees/teas. Sorrentos was better than Carnival in terms of how quickly you could get Pizza, but I find Carnival's pizza way better.

 

Blue Iguana completely blows away El Loco Fresh on the Oasis, not even close. However, they did have more "options" at El Loco Fresh like tortilla chips, cheese sauce, different pre-made burritos, tacos, quesadillas but the quality was leaps and bounds different. Blue Iguana tastes FRESH made (and is right in front of you) where El Loco felt like a buffet, food sitting out for a while and no customizations and frankly meh in flavor. Oasis had NOTHING compared to Guys Burger; paid or otherwise. Johnny Rocket's is OK but expensive for just a burger craving. The DELI on Carnival destroys Royal.

 

I will NEVER understand on Carnival or Royal, why is guest services in the middle of the noisiest parts of the ship? So ha

 

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On 3/28/2022 at 10:29 PM, peanutzmom said:

After almost 20 years of being loyal Carnival customers, we got a really great deal on a really great itinerary on a really great ship through RCI for this Spring Break. We thought it would be fun and interesting to try another line, and the price was really great. I have to say, we were disappointed. First, the food was really lackluster - ranging from average to downright awful - even in the MDR. The buffets were pretty bad - we avoided them whenever possible. Second, the staff was less friendly and engaging, and a couple of times we had some minor issues with service. We’re not the kind of people who expect perfection - we are pretty much happy just to be on vacation - but a couple of incidents were pretty unprofessional. Finally, we had problems with our onboard charges - at least twice, we were charged for bar drinks we never ordered and had to stand in line at Guest Services to have it fixed. And Guest Services didn’t seem very apologetic about the incorrect charges once we brought it to their attention. 
 

None of it ruined our vacation. How can you NOT love spending time on the beautiful Caribbean islands? But for our next cruise, we will definitely come back home to Carnival!

Whoa, no way - sorry to hear it wasn't the most relaxing cruise! We just had the exact opposite experience on Harmony as our first RCI cruise Feb 27th. after only Carnival. But at least you got to try it, and know what you like! We had those kinds of problems on our last few Carnival cruises and may not be back to them in our case. 

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My opinion, having not cruised the Oasis class ships, and with only one sailing on Royal, but also being "in-tune" with travel agents, vloggers, etc., is that Royal ships tend to be better maintained than Carnival's older ships, and I enjoyed the specialty dining more on Royal than Carnival (although Jiji Asian Kitchen and the Bonsai Teppanyaki are both very good on CCL). 

 

Carnival beats Royal Caribbean on the Lido Deck dining options, on lower beverage/bar pricing, and on non-theater entertainment, which includes the comedy club and musicians/bands. I found Carnival to have more "let us entertain you" options, while Royal has more experiential activities such as rock walls, ice skating, and Flowrider machines. 

 

In terms of MDR meals, I used to say that Carnival was superior, but they've been slipping in recent years, and it has been worse in my three cruises since the restart. They are probably on par with what I recall from my Royal cruise. 

 

Regardless of cost, my preference is still to cruise with Carnival for the better entertainment, even in instances where Carnival is the more expensive option. I found myself bored on Independence of the Seas, and many of the activities that were unique to Royal (ice skating, Flowrider) had lines that were so long that I didn't get to experience them. 

 

My second choice of the mainstream lines (Disney not included) is actually Norwegian, primarily for the specialty dining. I also enjoyed their entertainment offerings, although I did not like the setup of their lounges and the fact that the piano bar and comedy club required reservations to see a show. I have another NCL cruise booked on the Bliss next year, and would likely choose NCL again over Royal if I'm looking to take a break from Carnival. 

 

With all of that being said, Carnival is still my go-to cruise line, and NCL, Disney, MSC, Royal, Virgin, Celebrity, Princess, etc. would all need to make a very good case to get me to deviate. 

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On 3/29/2022 at 1:50 PM, pc_load_letter said:

We are fairly cruise line agnostic but being here in San Diego, we generally take Carnival more since the prices are good and we can do the four day cruises more often.

 

Haven't been on the Oasis class ships but the amount of people and needing to make reservations for everything turns me off. I dont' want to feel rushed or pressured to make plans the fist five minutes I'm on the ship.

 

I've never been on a bad Carnival cruise but I just wished they'd implement something like O'Sheehans for late night food options. I've never been impressed with Carnivals late night food options and while pizza is good, it gets tiresome your third and forth night. I love NCL for O'Sheehans.

This.  Nothing like eating chicken wings and fries at 4 in the morning after a long night of partying.  NCL is my preferred cruise line, but I've cruised Carnival the most.  I've been on RC once, Oasis of the Seas, and the ship was amazing!  The shows were probably better than both Carnival and NCL and the pizza, OMG, was amazing!  I couldn't go a day without a slice, but the food at the buffet and MDR was just hit or miss, like Carnival and NCL. 

 

Bottom line, if the price is right, i'll jump on any cruiseline.

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49 minutes ago, cruizin4sho said:

This.  Nothing like eating chicken wings and fries at 4 in the morning after a long night of partying.  NCL is my preferred cruise line, but I've cruised Carnival the most.  I've been on RC once, Oasis of the Seas, and the ship was amazing!  The shows were probably better than both Carnival and NCL and the pizza, OMG, was amazing!  I couldn't go a day without a slice, but the food at the buffet and MDR was just hit or miss, like Carnival and NCL. 

 

Bottom line, if the price is right, i'll jump on any cruiseline.

Sorrento's?  On the Oasis?  We were on in January and it wasn't good at all.  

 

If you want good cruise ship pizza, you need to cruise a Princess ship with an Alfredo's...

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I think people who expect Royal to be significantly better are probably going to be disappointed. It’s not really a step up, it’s just a little different.
 

1.I found the food comparable but prefer Carnival’s hours of availability. They have a lot of the same things available but because Carnival does so many of their offerings in separate locations instead of throwing them in with the buffet, Carnival is often offering a fresher product. For example, Royal has free burgers at the buffet but they will be sitting there. 
 

2. The Royal shows are better but the ships go to sleep too early in my opinion. 

 

3.  Carnival also seems to have more entertainment in the daytime.

 

4.  The staff are about the same to me. I personally wasn’t pushed to buy specialty dining or drink packages any more on Royal than on Carnival.

 

5. I felt like Royal’s clientele is a little more subdued. I am rather laid back but I still prefer the slightly more upbeat people on Carnival.

 

6. I have also sailed NCL. I didn’t love the food but the vibe was nice and I appreciated the 24 hour restaurant.

 

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52 minutes ago, bmc alabama said:

Sorrento's?  On the Oasis?  We were on in January and it wasn't good at all.  

 

If you want good cruise ship pizza, you need to cruise a Princess ship with an Alfredo's...

Sorrentos used to horrible on RCI. They improved it to edible but still not anything to write home about.

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