safarigal Posted June 18, 2022 #1 Share Posted June 18, 2022 We are currently stopped in very windy weather to assist a sail boat in distress. I am sure they are really glad that we are here, it looks nasty out there! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safarigal Posted June 18, 2022 Author #2 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Helicopter to the rescue 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Host Hattie Posted June 18, 2022 #3 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Looks nasty, hope everyone is OK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safarigal Posted June 18, 2022 Author #4 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Both people on board were safely transferred to a French helicopter, and as the sailboat was already taking water, I assume that it will be sinking soon. We are underway again, and heading for Southampton. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Host Hattie Posted June 18, 2022 #5 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Thanks for the updates, I hope you enjoy the rest of your trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safarigal Posted June 18, 2022 Author #6 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Captain Hoyt said we may be a bit late getting in to Southampton, but he is clearly trying to make up for lost time as we speed through the storm 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanky Lad Posted June 18, 2022 #7 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Thanks for the update @safarigal I'm glad everyone was ok. Hopefully no-one on board will hace their onward travel arrangements messed up. A good reminder for why you need to allow plenty of time after disembarking just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace2542 Posted June 18, 2022 #8 Share Posted June 18, 2022 2 hours ago, safarigal said: We are currently stopped in very windy weather to assist a sail boat in distress. I am sure they are really glad that we are here, it looks nasty out there! Isn't the captain putting the ship, the crew and even the future of cruise industry in danger by coming to rescue a ship which could be anyone. What if they are terrorists and it is some kind of trap? That is a genuine question to which I would like a response not a trolling post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safarigal Posted June 18, 2022 Author #9 Share Posted June 18, 2022 12 minutes ago, ace2542 said: Isn't the captain putting the ship, the crew and even the future of cruise industry in danger by coming to rescue a ship which could be anyone. What if they are terrorists and it is some kind of trap? That is a genuine question to which I would like a response not a trolling post. Your point is well taken, but I think that under maritime law we are obliged to provide assistance to ships who put out a mayday call, so I am not sure the captain really has a choice. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exlondoner Posted June 18, 2022 #10 Share Posted June 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, ace2542 said: Isn't the captain putting the ship, the crew and even the future of cruise industry in danger by coming to rescue a ship which could be anyone. What if they are terrorists and it is some kind of trap? That is a genuine question to which I would like a response not a trolling post. It a universal requirement for mariners to go to the help of those in distress. Risking it being a trap is presumably a minor concern compared with leaving people to drown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Host Hattie Posted June 18, 2022 #11 Share Posted June 18, 2022 I would think the master and security staff assess the risk, I wouldn't think many ships would stop for a pirate boat off the coast of Somalia for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sogne Posted June 18, 2022 #12 Share Posted June 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, ace2542 said: Isn't the captain putting the ship, the crew and even the future of cruise industry in danger by coming to rescue a ship which could be anyone. What if they are terrorists and it is some kind of trap? That is a genuine question to which I would like a response not a trolling post. First rule of the sea which I have answered numerous times in a previous life almost certainly a May day relay from Brest Le Conquet MRCC & QV almost certainly tasked by French CG to attend or she was nearby. Does that assuage your concerns? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sogne Posted June 18, 2022 #13 Share Posted June 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, safarigal said: Your point is well taken, but I think that under maritime law we are obliged to provide assistance to ships who put out a mayday call, so I am not sure the captain really has a choice. He had no choice if nearby and would not have thought twice it's what all mariners expect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemarble Posted June 18, 2022 #14 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Here's a marinetraffic track showing QV's diversion to offer assistance. This took place approximately 36 NM off the coast of France to the WSW of Brest Anchorage. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exlondoner Posted June 18, 2022 #15 Share Posted June 18, 2022 34 minutes ago, Host Hattie said: I would think the master and security staff assess the risk, I wouldn't think many ships would stop for a pirate boat off the coast of Somalia for example. Even then if the occupants were drowning...? Think of the effect on the RN's reputation of their failure to pick up most of the Bismarck crew, even though they thought they were in danger of themselves being targeted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare broberts Posted June 18, 2022 #16 Share Posted June 18, 2022 (edited) 56 minutes ago, ace2542 said: Isn't the captain putting the ship, the crew and even the future of cruise industry in danger by coming to rescue a ship which could be anyone. What if they are terrorists and it is some kind of trap? That is a genuine question to which I would like a response not a trolling post. Did you consider the consequences of not responding? What if all hands had perished? I can envisage the leads, "Cunard cruise ship let's two die!", "Cruise ship ignores SOS as sailing boat sinks!" ... Edited June 18, 2022 by broberts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omah1975 Posted June 18, 2022 #17 Share Posted June 18, 2022 57 minutes ago, ace2542 said: Isn't the captain putting the ship, the crew and even the future of cruise industry in danger by coming to rescue a ship which could be anyone. What if they are terrorists and it is some kind of trap? That is a genuine question to which I would like a response not a trolling post. So are you saying that the captain of the RMS Carpathia should have ignored the distress signal from the Titanic in case it was a trap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exlondoner Posted June 18, 2022 #18 Share Posted June 18, 2022 1 minute ago, omah1975 said: So are you saying that the captain of the RMS Carpathia should have ignored the distress signal from the Titanic in case it was a trap? White Star of course behaved with great vulgarity by offering Cunard money for the rescue. Rescues are done out of humanity not for emoluments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showingdiva Posted June 18, 2022 #19 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Second time in as many weeks Queen Victoria has gone to the rescue. At the end of April, whilst on the way to Belfast for refit, she came to the aid of the P&O Ferries ship European Causeway, which suffered temporary engine failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sogne Posted June 19, 2022 #20 Share Posted June 19, 2022 11 hours ago, broberts said: Did you consider the consequences of not responding? What if all hands had perished? I can envisage the leads, "Cunard cruise ship let's two die!", "Cruise ship ignores SOS as sailing boat sinks!" ... Also possible prosecution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sogne Posted June 19, 2022 #21 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Looking at pics on FB yacht looks to be a beneteau or jeanuea about 40ft very popular boats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exlondoner Posted June 19, 2022 #22 Share Posted June 19, 2022 9 hours ago, sogne said: Also possible prosecution And worse than those possibilities, people would have drowned who could have been saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omah1975 Posted June 19, 2022 #23 Share Posted June 19, 2022 18 hours ago, showingdiva said: Second time in as many weeks Queen Victoria has gone to the rescue. At the end of April, whilst on the way to Belfast for refit, she came to the aid of the P&O Ferries ship European Causeway, which suffered temporary engine failure. It's a good job she did as that could have ended up with mass fatalities if it had been something worse than a temporary engine failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace2542 Posted June 20, 2022 #24 Share Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) On 6/18/2022 at 7:18 PM, broberts said: Did you consider the consequences of not responding? What if all hands had perished? I can envisage the leads, "Cunard cruise ship let's two die!", "Cruise ship ignores SOS as sailing boat sinks!" ... And what if it had been members of the wagner group in the first attack in Europe or ISIS and it was a trap there was 8 of them onboard 7 with RPG's who once the ship stops open fire at the stationary target destroying the bridge first disabling the ship and killing the bridge crew then lifeboats. Then ramming the ship with their ship full of explosives potentially sinking it? Or they overwhelm QV rescue team board the ship take the entire ship hostage and making demands against Ukraine war? Either way lets not make it easy from them? Edited June 20, 2022 by ace2542 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace2542 Posted June 20, 2022 #25 Share Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) On 6/18/2022 at 7:18 PM, broberts said: Did you consider the consequences of not responding? What if all hands had perished? I can envisage the leads, "Cunard cruise ship let's two die!", "Cruise ship ignores SOS as sailing boat sinks!" ... "Cunard ship sank by terrorists thousands dead" "Cunard line near bankrupt after terror strike!" "CLIA calls for cruise ship be armed with anti ship missles after terror strike" - a thing which would never be allowed -. And last but not least. "SAS commander vows to slaughter Wagner Group killers as QV hostage siege continues" How about those headlines. Edited June 20, 2022 by ace2542 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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