mouche Posted June 28, 2022 #1 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Are these the same and has anyone ever travel with a birth registration card? One of our travel mates is using this as proof of birth, Carnival's site does say Original birth certificate or birth certificate card. Would hate for him to get turned away at the port, thanks for your help as the wait on the phone is too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvilleCruiser Posted June 28, 2022 #2 Share Posted June 28, 2022 An article I read said that a birth certificate card is basically a receipt showing that the birth has been properly registered with the state and that the card does not constitute legal proof of identity. I would think it safer to obtain a traditional birth certificate if possible. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouche Posted June 28, 2022 Author #3 Share Posted June 28, 2022 My thoughts exactly, now to convince our travel mate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvilleCruiser Posted June 28, 2022 #4 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 minute ago, mouche said: My thoughts exactly, now to convince our travel mate. The thought that I might be turned away at the port would be enough to convince me, but as the saying goes, your mileage may vary. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ColeThornton Posted June 28, 2022 #5 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Interesting question. My friend Mr Google says a birth registration card is NOT proof of identity. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouche Posted June 28, 2022 Author #6 Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, ColeThornton said: Interesting question. My friend Mr Google says a birth registration card is NOT proof of identity. Right, and I have printed that also and showed it to him, now I will show him these replies and if he still does not understand, I will let it go and let him take his chances. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeyefrank100 Posted June 28, 2022 #7 Share Posted June 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, mouche said: Right, and I have printed that also and showed it to him, now I will show him these replies and if he still does not understand, I will let it go and let him take his chances. Make sure he has a way to get home from the port when he is turned away. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ColeThornton Posted June 28, 2022 #8 Share Posted June 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Buckeyefrank100 said: Make sure he has a way to get home from the port when he is turned away. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mz-s Posted June 28, 2022 #9 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Make sure his phone is charged on embarkation day, because the photos of the ship sailing away from the dock can be incredible. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purvis1231 Posted June 28, 2022 #10 Share Posted June 28, 2022 51 minutes ago, mouche said: Are these the same and has anyone ever travel with a birth registration card? One of our travel mates is using this as proof of birth, Carnival's site does say Original birth certificate or birth certificate card. Would hate for him to get turned away at the port, thanks for your help as the wait on the phone is too long. Personally. I would not risk the cruise over something even a little questionable. I would order a new birth certificate from my birth state's vital records so I would have the proper paper work. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Ferry_Watcher Posted June 28, 2022 #11 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Best to have an actual paper copy of the birth certificate. Th ship's Documentation Officer might be the one making the final decision regarding the birth registration card. Or, the guy may have to call his mom and ask her to send a picture of his birth certificate via cell phone to the pier so it can be printed out and used as his travel documentation. He really needs to arrive more prepared. Not worth taking chances within hours of a ship sailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Essiesmom Posted June 28, 2022 #12 Share Posted June 28, 2022 I have read on here that there are a few states that issued a card form of the birth certificate and it was used successfully to cruise. Mr. Google showed me that at one time Florida and Iowa did this, but I’m not sure they still do. I do know that to many years I used a paper that was titled Notification of Birth Registration. It got me into the army twice, and my first passport. When it was time to retire and file for social security, I decided to get a birth certificate. What came was a short form, that didn’t even have my parents name on it. EM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted June 28, 2022 #13 Share Posted June 28, 2022 If it is just a card form of a birth certificate it would work, but if it's just a glorified receipt probably not. All that is required is that it be issued by a government authority. 2 hours ago, ColeThornton said: Interesting question. My friend Mr Google says a birth registration card is NOT proof of identity. The birth certificate is used to prove citizenship, not identity. That is accomplished by the government issued ID that must be used with the birth certificate for those 16 and older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Ferry_Watcher Posted June 28, 2022 #14 Share Posted June 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, sparks1093 said: The birth certificate is used to prove citizenship, not identity. That is accomplished by the government issued ID that must be used with the birth certificate for those 16 and older. Good to see your post my friend. : ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger0613 Posted June 28, 2022 #15 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) My mom was born in the 50s in Iowa. Her official birth certificate looks like a folded index card. It has all of the required information on it. If my mom were to request an additional copy today, it would be the more common 8.5x11 piece of paper. She used her index card birth certificate successfully on 6/15/02 on a cruise out of Tampa. She has used a passport on all of her subsequent cruises. Edited June 28, 2022 by Tiger0613 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare finoky Posted June 28, 2022 #16 Share Posted June 28, 2022 My brother- in-law has cruised twice recently with a birth certificate card from Virginia. No problem either time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purvis1231 Posted June 29, 2022 #17 Share Posted June 29, 2022 2 hours ago, finoky said: My brother- in-law has cruised twice recently with a birth certificate card from Virginia. No problem either time. A birth certificate card may be different. I would not chance it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fart Cruisers Posted June 29, 2022 #18 Share Posted June 29, 2022 Although, according to Carnival's website, a Birth Certificate Card seems to be acceptable when used with another acceptable form of identification, personally I wouldn't recommend travelling with anything less than a passport. https://www.carnival.com/help/1373 Traveling with a Birth Certificate AND Photo Identification Birth Certificate Information The following are acceptable: An original or copy of a birth certificate issued by a government agency (state/county/city) or the Department of Health and Vital Statistics A clear, legible copy (photocopy) of a birth certificate that was originally issued by a government agency (state/county/city) or the Department of Health and Vital Statistics. The copy does not need to be notarized or certified. Birth Certificate Card A Consular report of Birth Abroad Internationally adopted children (under the age of 18): If the adoptive parent was not issued a birth certificate, we will accept as proof of citizenship, a Certificate of Citizenship by the U.S. and adoption paperwork. A Certificate of Citizenship is issued by the U.S. once the adoption is finalized. Guests may obtain a copy of a birth certificate by contacting: The Department of Health and Vital Statistics at: www.vitalchek.com. If the guest has laminated their birth certificate, it is acceptable. Birth certificates from Puerto Rico issued prior to July 1, 2010 are not valid forms of proof of citizenship and are not accepted by U.S. Customs and Border Protection. Guests from Puerto Rico either need to present a WHTI-compliant document or a government-issued photo I.D. with a validated birth certificate issued after July 1, 2010. AND Photo Identification A non-expired government-issued photo I.D. is required of all guests 16 years of age and older. The following are acceptable: Driver's License (a temporary Driver's License with photo is acceptable) Driver's Permit School/Student I.D. (acceptable for guests 16/17/18 years of age) Government-issued identification card including a U.S. Military I.D. with photo (city/state/federal) Government-issued Trusted Traveler Program Membership Card (NEXUS/SENTRI/FAST) - for photo identification use only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouche Posted June 30, 2022 Author #19 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Thanks everyone, I finally talked his hard head into getting a duplicate copy of birth certificate instead of using his birth registration card. Whew!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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