Project-College Posted July 21, 2022 #276 Share Posted July 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, pyrateslife4me84 said: The way that is worded easily provides cover for a policy like, “we recommend testing for those up-to-date with vaccinations and require test results for the unvaccinated or those who are not up-to-date with vaccinations.” But, we shall see. I like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_lock Posted July 21, 2022 #277 Share Posted July 21, 2022 BREAKING!!: Azamara just dropped testing effective July 25 which cruise line is next https://www.azamara.com/booked-guests/before-you-board/explore-well-at-sea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaelynM Posted July 21, 2022 #278 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Any update from Royal regarding this? Will we now be able to cruise without the vaccine? https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-ends-covid-program-cruise-214604761.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=fb&tsrc=fb&mibextid=us0yfe&fs=e&s=cl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soremekun Posted July 21, 2022 #279 Share Posted July 21, 2022 https://www.royalcaribbean.com/the-healthy-sail-center?icid=hlthys_wrnssn_hlt_nbrdxp_pghdr_3467 On July 18, the U.S. CDC announced that the COVID-19 Program for Cruise Ships is no longer in effect. Going forward, the CDC will continue to publish guidance for the cruise industry. We are waiting for these revised recommendations, which we expect in the coming days. Upon review, we will adjust our current protocols and provide guidance to our guests. For now, our current protocols remain in effect for cruises departing U.S. homeports. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rare exm Posted July 21, 2022 #281 Share Posted July 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, Rusty_lock said: BREAKING!!: Azamara just dropped testing effective July 25 which cruise line is next https://www.azamara.com/booked-guests/before-you-board/explore-well-at-sea Royal!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mianmike Posted July 21, 2022 #282 Share Posted July 21, 2022 43 minutes ago, pyrateslife4me84 said: The way that is worded easily provides cover for a policy like, “we recommend testing for those up-to-date with vaccinations and require test results for the unvaccinated or those who are not up-to-date with vaccinations.” But, we shall see. IMO this CDC document clearly puts the ball in the cruise line's court. Key words such as: "assist", "should" or "recommends" instead of "will" or "shall" is huge. Words are carefully chosen when a regulatory agency is writing a federal order. IMO the phrase below sums it up. This document is intended to assist cruise ship operators in establishing health and safety protections to reduce the risk of introduction and spread COVID-19 during passenger operations and preserve onboard medical capacity. The question is how much risk do the cruise lines want to take on. There will be a media feeding frenzy if there's a big covid outbreak on a cruise line that chose to ignore the CDC recommendations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted July 21, 2022 Author #283 Share Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Rusty_lock said: BREAKING!!: Azamara just dropped testing effective July 25 which cruise line is next https://www.azamara.com/booked-guests/before-you-board/explore-well-at-sea That was announced yesterday. Way before the CDC even released their guidelines. Edited July 21, 2022 by Ourusualbeach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_lock Posted July 21, 2022 #284 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Just now, Ourusualbeach said: That was snnounced yesterday. Way before yhr CDC even released their guidelines. Oh wow, I didn't know. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingerwoppy Posted July 21, 2022 #285 Share Posted July 21, 2022 In another thread they're saying that Azamara dropped pre-cruise testing starting 7/25 so I would expect to see some kind of change for RC in the very near future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted July 21, 2022 #286 Share Posted July 21, 2022 30 minutes ago, Jingerwoppy said: In another thread they're saying that Azamara dropped pre-cruise testing starting 7/25 so I would expect to see some kind of change for RC in the very near future. Azamara isn't a part of RCG anymore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton Posted July 21, 2022 #287 Share Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) Seems the CDC quietly issued the new guidance in the past couple hours. https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/cruise/covid-19-cruise-ship-guidance.html Edited July 21, 2022 by Anton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare notscb Posted July 21, 2022 #288 Share Posted July 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, Anton said: Seems the CDC quietly issued the new guidance in the past couple hours. https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/cruise/covid-19-cruise-ship-guidance.html The CDC has always been involved in setting guidelines and standards for the cruising industry. Covid wasn't the first and won't be the last time that the CDC and federal government get involved in the travel and tourism industry. This thread is full of folks prematurely celebrating something they haven't read and don't really understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp2746 Posted July 21, 2022 #289 Share Posted July 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Ret MP said: They discontinued their "Telehealth" business. You'll have to use one of the others like onpoint. Thank you so much!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted July 21, 2022 #290 Share Posted July 21, 2022 5 hours ago, jp2746 said: I can't find a link to monitoring to using these for precruise. The only one I found was sold out. These are the kits you would use on day 5 or 6 of a 7 night cruise. If you are positive then you would go to medical on the ship and get a free quarantine and food from Royal Caribbean once off the ship until you are able to fly home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS CRUZIN Posted July 21, 2022 #291 Share Posted July 21, 2022 What I read today Carnival and Royal are going to wait for further confirmation from the CDC before acting on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babr Posted July 21, 2022 #292 Share Posted July 21, 2022 5 hours ago, firefly333 said: Yes I'm boosted. And yes I have to test 2 days before for rcl. Carnival now gives fully vaccinated 3 days to test, a etra day. 3 days before if you meet the guidelines for fully vaccinated. Someone said there is some sort of overall policy ends sept 30, so if they are right I'm stuck testing for sept. I'm still hoping they are wrong .. more people would cruise., I'm sick of the stress and expense to pre test. Does nothing. People still come home positive. It's just not discussed much on cc. We cant discuss covid. Ok by me. Not interested anyway. I just want to stop pre testing. It is the cancellation policy providing COVID assistance for shoreside quarantine and transportation that ends Sept. 30. Cruise with Confidence which allows you to cancel up to 48 hours has already ended unless you booked in March for cruises that sail by Sept. 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare exm Posted July 21, 2022 #293 Share Posted July 21, 2022 11 hours ago, Anton said: Seems the CDC quietly issued the new guidance in the past couple hours. https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/cruise/covid-19-cruise-ship-guidance.html It looks like pretty much the same policies as before but instead of "must" they replaced all text with "should consider". I'm curious how RC will handle this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mndity Posted July 21, 2022 #294 Share Posted July 21, 2022 On 7/18/2022 at 3:20 PM, hazeleyes46 said: Right now I am just interested in the testing to stop since I already had to get the vaccine to cruise 🙂 I would rather no one be able to get Covid19 while cruising, So until that happens, keep the testing going. I was vaccinated and booster twice but still got Covid, along with my wife, on our recent Alaskan cruise (June 13 - 20). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazeleyes46 Posted July 21, 2022 #295 Share Posted July 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, mndity said: I would rather no one be able to get Covid19 while cruising, So until that happens, keep the testing going. I was vaccinated and booster twice but still got Covid, along with my wife, on our recent Alaskan cruise (June 13 - 20). That will never happen, just like it will never happen on land. It is a virus and should be treated like every other virus. I was unvaccinated until a month ago and never (as far as I know and was tested for work for months) got covid. I went back to almost normal life last year too. If you are worried about getting any type of virus, I would say don't go to public places where there are a lot of people. Otherwise, the rest of us are not worried and want to start getting back to almost 100% normality. Cruises are the only place that most of us need to test and vaccine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mndity Posted July 21, 2022 #296 Share Posted July 21, 2022 1 minute ago, hazeleyes46 said: That will never happen, just like it will never happen on land. It is a virus and should be treated like every other virus. I was unvaccinated until a month ago and never (as far as I know and was tested for work for months) got covid. I went back to almost normal life last year too. If you are worried about getting any type of virus, I would say don't go to public places where there are a lot of people. Otherwise, the rest of us are not worried and want to start getting back to almost 100% normality. Cruises are the only place that most of us need to test and vaccine. It's too bad that everyone who can get the vaccine get the vaccine. The world has dealt with other viruses that have been basically been eliminated by vaccines. I went on a cruise after having to reschedule twice due to Covid. I had a great time until after getting home. I might have been better off masking more, but it was my decision. I don't avoid public places or being in the public. I am doing everything I was doing pre-covid, but I do take a few more precautions. Would I cruise again? Absolutely, probably masking more though. Cruises are one, not only, place where most of us should test & be vaccinated. I would like to know who you consider "the rest of us"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time4u2go Posted July 21, 2022 #297 Share Posted July 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, mndity said: I would like to know who you consider "the rest of us"? I was wondering that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare notscb Posted July 21, 2022 #298 Share Posted July 21, 2022 38 minutes ago, hazeleyes46 said: every other virus. Since my post got deleted, I'll revise my statement. Covid has been shown to not be like every other virus. It's more transmissible and more challenging given the long-covid symptoms we've been seeing and people have had to live with (beyond just a prolonged loss of smell). I think that while it's normal for us to want to get back to cruising as normal, we would do better to recognize that we aren't the only ones that we are placing at risk when getting onboard a ship. The crew is the most obvious, as they have lives and families to get back to and live in much, much more cramped spaces than the passengers do. Look at the amount of folks on this and other threads who say their cruise was great until they got home with covid. How many people did they encounter on the way from the ship to home? Did they fly while contagious? My point is that Covid isn't like every other virus. If we want our vacation experiences to feel "normal," we could be doing better to make sure everyone's vacation experience getting onboard with us can also be normal. Now is not the time for individualism. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazeleyes46 Posted July 21, 2022 #299 Share Posted July 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, mndity said: It's too bad that everyone who can get the vaccine get the vaccine. The world has dealt with other viruses that have been basically been eliminated by vaccines. I went on a cruise after having to reschedule twice due to Covid. I had a great time until after getting home. I might have been better off masking more, but it was my decision. I don't avoid public places or being in the public. I am doing everything I was doing pre-covid, but I do take a few more precautions. Would I cruise again? Absolutely, probably masking more though. Cruises are one, not only, place where most of us should test & be vaccinated. I would like to know who you consider "the rest of us"? Anyone who has moved on and live as normal as they possibly can. Not avoiding any places or situations and not masking at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare aubreyc1988 Posted July 21, 2022 #300 Share Posted July 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, Mum2Mercury said: No, when you're over a cold or flu, you're over it. In contrast, a significant number of people experience "Long Covid". I had Covid last February, and I got past the virus in a couple days -- but I experienced a variety of symptoms for roughly two months. Exhaustion was a constant, but the headache, cough, and body aches came and went unpredictably. For two months. They were enough to impact my day-to-day life; I went to the doctor about it, and he assured me that this was all normal after having Covid. This isn't an unusual story: My sister-in-law, who is a little younger than me and has no co-morbidities, is still having problems more than a year after getting over Covid. I know several teachers at school who have had similar situations, though none as lengthy as my sister-in-law's. From the CDC website: New data from the Household Pulse Survey show that more than 40% of adults in the United States reported having COVID-19 in the past, and nearly one in five of those (19%) are currently still having symptoms of “long COVID.” I have a friend who has long covid. Whenever I see her updates, I am so sad for her. It sounds absolutely dreadful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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