Rare cruisestitch Posted August 30, 2022 #1 Share Posted August 30, 2022 I just got the email that has Azamara and Celebrity loyalties will finish their split early next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Rick_ Posted August 30, 2022 #2 Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) Oh well, I guess I won't be booking the Azamara cruise that I was looking at for Dec '23 now as a S2S with Beyond. IMO, this is a mistake, because they will lose a lot of bookings from X customers who would have tried Azamara if they retained their loyalty benefits - like me. It's just as well I suppose, the reviews of the retrofitted ship from Princess were not good. Edited August 30, 2022 by _Rick_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the penguins Posted August 30, 2022 #3 Share Posted August 30, 2022 14 minutes ago, _Rick_ said: Oh well, I guess I won't be booking the Azamara cruise that I was looking at for Dec '23 now as a S2S with Beyond. IMO, this is a mistake, because they will lose a lot of bookings from X customers who would have tried Azamara if they retained their loyalty benefits - like me. It's just as well I suppose, the reviews of the retrofitted ship from Princess were not good. A bit off topic but MSC will match your Celebrity status against their nearest equivalent on your first cruise with them. To qualify you must phone MSC before you make a booking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelayne Posted August 30, 2022 #4 Share Posted August 30, 2022 We tried Azamara once and didn't enjoy it as much as X but it was a itinerary X didn't offer. Then another booking again for itinerary X didn't. That got cancelled and refunds were being processed. 30 days later they announced the identical itinerary for exactly 12 months to the day later at a 20% higher price. Called to see if they would allow a lift & shift and they refused. That was the end of Azamara in our book. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny01 Posted August 30, 2022 #5 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 minute ago, jelayne said: We tried Azamara once and didn't enjoy it as much as X but it was a itinerary X didn't offer. Then another booking again for itinerary X didn't. That got cancelled and refunds were being processed. 30 days later they announced the identical itinerary for exactly 12 months to the day later at a 20% higher price. Called to see if they would allow a lift & shift and they refused. That was the end of Azamara in our book. OP, thanks for the info. @jelayne, that type of thing where they offer you a type of voucher at 110% or 125%, but the same itinerary in the future costs more than the voucher has happened on other Lines also. Went through that with Viking and was Not happy; booked a wine cruise in Bordeaux to use their voucher and will not go back to Viking once Ive used the vouchers. den Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichYak Posted August 30, 2022 #6 Share Posted August 30, 2022 19 minutes ago, _Rick_ said: Oh well, I guess I won't be booking the Azamara cruise that I was looking at for Dec '23 now as a S2S with Beyond. IMO, this is a mistake, because they will lose a lot of bookings from X customers who would have tried Azamara if they retained their loyalty benefits - like me. It's just as well I suppose, the reviews of the retrofitted ship from Princess were not good. My understanding is that you will keep whatever Azamara status you've obtained from Celebrity sailings taken prior to February 2023. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Rick_ Posted August 30, 2022 #7 Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, RichYak said: My understanding is that you will keep whatever Azamara status you've obtained from Celebrity sailings taken prior to February 2023. Thanks for that info. I hope that's true. I would like to try Azamara sometime. We were looking at a Carib cruise on Azamara Onward, which is a retrofitted Princess ship, until we read the reviews here on CC. I guess we will wait to make sure our loyalty remains and perhaps try another cruise in the future on a different ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelayne Posted August 30, 2022 #8 Share Posted August 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Denny01 said: OP, thanks for the info. @jelayne, that type of thing where they offer you a type of voucher at 110% or 125%, but the same itinerary in the future costs more than the voucher has happened on other Lines also. Went through that with Viking and was Not happy; booked a wine cruise in Bordeaux to use their voucher and will not go back to Viking once Ive used the vouchers. den There was no 110% or 125% it was way before final payment and they just refunded the deposit. It was the fact that about a month later they announced the identical itinerary for the following year, even the identical embarkation and debarkation dates. About 4-5 months later I found out from some others that some regular AZ cruisers had the original fare honored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmc alabama Posted August 30, 2022 #9 Share Posted August 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, _Rick_ said: Thanks for that info. I hope that's true. I would like to try Azamara sometime. We were looking at a Carib cruise on Azamara Onward, which is a retrofitted Princess ship, until we read the reviews here on CC. I guess we will wait to make sure our loyalty remains and perhaps try another cruise in the future on a different ship. And that retrofitted Princess ship was a retrofitted Renaissance Cruises ship 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisestitch Posted August 30, 2022 Author #10 Share Posted August 30, 2022 37 minutes ago, RichYak said: My understanding is that you will keep whatever Azamara status you've obtained from Celebrity sailings taken prior to February 2023. However you must have sailed on Azamara at least once to keep that status. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisestitch Posted August 30, 2022 Author #11 Share Posted August 30, 2022 30 minutes ago, _Rick_ said: Thanks for that info. I hope that's true. I would like to try Azamara sometime. We were looking at a Carib cruise on Azamara Onward, which is a retrofitted Princess ship, until we read the reviews here on CC. I guess we will wait to make sure our loyalty remains and perhaps try another cruise in the future on a different ship. If you have not already sailed on Azamara, as I understand your status from Celebrity will be disappearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmd1037 Posted August 30, 2022 #12 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, cruisestitch said: I just got the email that has Azamara and Celebrity loyalties will finish their split early next year Thanks but I am confused. I am currently Elite Plus. In Azamara new loyalty program after February 1, 2023 will I have a similar level status or will I be pushed to the bottom? If so, how is that good news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmd1037 Posted August 30, 2022 #13 Share Posted August 30, 2022 To clarify, I did sail on Azamara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkystheLimit Posted August 30, 2022 #14 Share Posted August 30, 2022 20 minutes ago, cruisestitch said: However you must have sailed on Azamara at least once to keep that status. This is correct based on what I was told by Azamara. As for Azamara, we are looking forward to their new ownership. Know it will have some hiccups ,but ,truthfully Celebrity never made this brand a priority. We love the size of the R/A ships. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestLakeGirl Posted August 30, 2022 #15 Share Posted August 30, 2022 43 minutes ago, pmd1037 said: To clarify, I did sail on Azamara If you have already sailed on Azamara you keep your points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisestitch Posted August 30, 2022 Author #16 Share Posted August 30, 2022 From the letter I received Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichYak Posted August 30, 2022 #17 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, cruisestitch said: However you must have sailed on Azamara at least once to keep that status. Ah bummer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Big_M Posted August 31, 2022 #18 Share Posted August 31, 2022 14 hours ago, cruisestitch said: From the letter I received I don't see how the above shows that you must have sailed at least once to get the benefits. I haven't seen that as a requirement anywhere, and it would actually increase complexity to the change so not sure why they would do that. Sailing once on Azamara doesn't make you incredibly more loyal than never sailing at all, so doesn't make sense to add as a condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichYak Posted August 31, 2022 #19 Share Posted August 31, 2022 26 minutes ago, The_Big_M said: I don't see how the above shows that you must have sailed at least once to get the benefits. I haven't seen that as a requirement anywhere, and it would actually increase complexity to the change so not sure why they would do that. Sailing once on Azamara doesn't make you incredibly more loyal than never sailing at all, so doesn't make sense to add as a condition. When I log into my Azamara account, it shows me as "Discoverer" despite never having sailed with them. If I was boarding tomorrow, I would expect benefits. Nothing, to me, indicates otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HskrCrsr Posted August 31, 2022 #20 Share Posted August 31, 2022 47 minutes ago, RichYak said: When I log into my Azamara account, it shows me as "Discoverer" despite never having sailed with them. If I was boarding tomorrow, I would expect benefits. Nothing, to me, indicates otherwise. Check out this statement: As a Captain's Club member, will I have status and points with Azamara if I have only ever sailed with Celebrity? No. To have had status or points with Azamara, you must have at least one past sailing with Azamara. found here: https://www.azamara.com/loyalty/azamara-circle/transition This could change, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takemewithyou Posted August 31, 2022 #21 Share Posted August 31, 2022 I read the Azamara boards faithfully. What I have read from first time Azamara cruisers who are Celebrity Captains Club members is that they are receiving reciprocal status with Azamara currently, so-long as they provide their Captains Club number to Azamara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestLakeGirl Posted August 31, 2022 #22 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Currently yes nut it ends in February Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takemewithyou Posted August 31, 2022 #23 Share Posted August 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, WestLakeGirl said: Currently yes nut it ends in February Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DCPIV Posted August 31, 2022 #24 Share Posted August 31, 2022 I'd heard it get kicked around that the split finally would happen Q1 of next year. It's good to see a set date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichYak Posted August 31, 2022 #25 Share Posted August 31, 2022 25 minutes ago, HskrCrsr said: Check out this statement: I hate it when my bubble bursts. 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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