Don’t Get Covid on Princess

[memoak]

28 minutes ago, Torfamm said:

Yes, but probably exposed too recently to test positive. Tours involving daily bus and train travel are pretty high risk for exposure.

It usually takes a few days to show positive results. That is why covid on the Toyal skyrocketed on the 3rd and 4th day leaving Whittier. If everyone had worn masks this would no have happened. We were on the Majestic in April and 80% wore masks. Guess what no outbreak

[memoak]

10 minutes ago, cruzsnooze said:

So I am so your wife and I now know a "new normal" and carefully weigh our risks when it comes to our health. My symptoms are so mild I could have missed them so I believe the vaccine and 3 follow up boosters were effective.

But even if your symptoms are mild you would be shedding virus and infecting others who may be more vulnerable 

[PRINCESS Sweet Pea]

I see that a well known Vlogger has been Back-2-Back on the ship,  and he also says it is pretty bad.  He says the same thing about a really lax attitude onboard until the last couple days. Hopefully he is disembarking and did not get COVID!

[mellon1]

5 hours ago, PescadoAmarillo said:

THIS. So much this. And that’s the thing with COVID. When those first symptoms start, you have no idea where/how this is going to end.

Yes, you are right.  I am very proud of you.  I know it was a difficult decision and one thought out and well planned for sure.  

 

We are there now.  What to do, go or stay home.  Our doctor told us a lot can happen and change very quickly, especially if you get the Delta strain, all which are not good.  

 

I am glad you are OK now and feeling better.  

[Guest ldtr]

just finished my 6th cruise this year. Noticed that compared to earlier cruises with the loosening of the rules, not only are there fewer people wearing masks, but more people just continue out and about the ship even after they develop symptoms with no change in behavior.  At least before a percentage that developed symptoms did report to medical or at least did some change to limit exposure of others. not so much this trip.

Edited September 4, 2022 by ldtr

[memoak]

1 hour ago, PRINCESS Sweet Pea said:

I see that a well known Vlogger has been Back-2-Back on the ship,  and he also says it is pretty bad.  He says the same thing about a really lax attitude onboard until the last couple days. Hopefully he is disembarking and did not get COVID!

He actually was letting people know that ha was not going to west a mask and told people that no one would enforce the rules. His attitude changed after hundreds of us got sick. And if I am not mistaken he has already had covid

[Hammerjock]

Finally about to sail with my aging parents on Celebrity in Oct after rescheduling twice due to Covid.  With the testing protocols we felt at least there would be some limit of risk on the ship but with the testing going away for vaxxed guests, who can just as easily get sick(I’ve had it twice) I feel the risk just increased considerably and after we’d made final pymt.  I know Covid is here to stay and I am very curious to see how the cruise industry handles the inevitable outbreaks.  I think boards like this are important to educate other travelers because there is no guarantee the lines will be transparent with outbreak information.

[SiliconCruiser]

5 hours ago, memoak said:

It usually takes a few days to show positive results. That is why covid on the Toyal skyrocketed on the 3rd and 4th day leaving Whittier. If everyone had worn masks this would no have happened. We were on the Majestic in April and 80% wore masks. Guess what no outbreak

In April, the Ruby Princess left San Francisco on a closed loop cruise to Hawaii.  Both the crew and the passengers were 100% vaccinated.  Hawaii has some of the strictest regulations regarding visitors with regard to visitors (and residents) being quarantined on arrival or return (obviously not required of cruise ship passengers.)  The Ruby came back to San Francisco with 143 cases of infection.

[Princessfan20]

31 minutes ago, Hammerjock said:

Finally about to sail with my aging parents on Celebrity in Oct after rescheduling twice due to Covid.  With the testing protocols we felt at least there would be some limit of risk on the ship but with the testing going away for vaxxed guests, who can just as easily get sick(I’ve had it twice) I feel the risk just increased considerably and after we’d made final pymt.  I know Covid is here to stay and I am very curious to see how the cruise industry handles the inevitable outbreaks.  I think boards like this are important to educate other travelers because there is no guarantee the lines will be transparent with outbreak information.

 

Hope all goes well with your cruise and that you and your parents are able to stay healthy and enjoy the cruise.  

 

Maybe Celebrity has more responsible crew and passengers then what we have witnessed on our most recent Covidfest Pricess cruises.

[cr8tiv1]

2 hours ago, SiliconCruiser said:

In April, the Ruby Princess left San Francisco on a closed loop cruise to Hawaii.  Both the crew and the passengers were 100% vaccinated.  Hawaii has some of the strictest regulations regarding visitors with regard to visitors (and residents) being quarantined on arrival or return (obviously not required of cruise ship passengers.)  The Ruby came back to San Francisco with 143 cases of infection.

 

April were the FIRST cruise to Hawaii under the "new" un-restrictions.  I was on the FIRST cruise to Hawaii from San Pedro when Princess dropped protective policies in late March on the Grand Princess.

 

Previous to that there were several "safeguards" in place:

 

1.  Hawaii's Safe Travels app requiring all passengers to be vaxed and tested prior to getting on the ship.  (Still in place until this past summer).

 

2.  Passengers were tested at embarkation.

 

3.  They were tested again, 2-3 days into the cruise.

 

4.  In addition, masking was mandatory (March/April) later became optional.

 

5.  The Casino had a no smoking policy.  Pre-covid there was a least a no smoking ban on formal nights.  (March/April)  Smoking is allowed EVERYDAY in the casino.

 

6.  Previous to March, the crew were not allowed on shore leave in the islands.  In March, crew were allowed to disembark in ports.

 

With just the required one testing prior to boarding, Covid Cases too early to detect came onboard with some passengers.  These would have been caught with the additional 2 testings that were in place before.

 

Hawaii's Port agreement with cruise ships required all ships to stop in Honolulu first to verify the Safe Travel App.  It was also written in the contract that Hawaii would NOT be responsible for covid passengers.  This meant that the Passenger ships could not disembark Covid patients in Hawaii.  They had to be left on the ship to return to their home port.

 

And those are the reason so many passengers returned on the Ruby with Covid.  In my opinion, March 2022 was too early to lift covid protocols.  I managed to do a b2b for 25 days without getting covid.  I did everything I could do (and yet still enjoyed my cruise days) to keep myself safe and healthy.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Princessfan20]

19 minutes ago, cr8tiv1 said:

 

April were the FIRST cruise to Hawaii under the "new" un-restrictions.  I was on the FIRST cruise to Hawaii from San Pedro when Princess dropped protective policies in late March on the Grand Princess.

 

Previous to that there were several "safeguards" in place:

 

1.  Hawaii's Safe Travels app requiring all passengers to be vaxed and tested prior to getting on the ship.  (Still in place until this past summer).

 

2.  Passengers were tested at embarkation.

 

3.  They were tested again, 2-3 days into the cruise.

 

4.  In addition, masking was mandatory (March/April) later became optional.

 

5.  The Casino had a no smoking policy.  Pre-covid there was a least a no smoking ban on formal nights.  (March/April)  Smoking is allowed EVERYDAY in the casino.

 

6.  Previous to March, the crew were not allowed on shore leave in the islands.  In March, crew were allowed to disembark in ports.

 

With just the required one testing prior to boarding, Covid Cases too early to detect came onboard with some passengers.  These would have been caught with the additional 2 testings that were in place before.

 

Hawaii's Port agreement with cruise ships required all ships to stop in Honolulu first to verify the Safe Travel App.  It was also written in the contract that Hawaii would NOT be responsible for covid passengers.  This meant that the Passenger ships could not disembark Covid patients in Hawaii.  They had to be left on the ship to return to their home port.

 

And those are the reason so many passengers returned on the Ruby with Covid.  In my opinion, March 2022 was too early to lift covid protocols.  I managed to do a b2b for 25 days without getting covid.  I did everything I could do (and yet still enjoyed my cruise days) to keep myself safe and healthy.  

 

 

So well stated.  I agree too that Princess did away with protocols too early and all it has done is create havoc for many passengers who paid good money to cruise and not get Covid.

[Daniel A]

16 hours ago, PRINCESS Sweet Pea said:

I see that a well known Vlogger has been Back-2-Back on the ship,  and he also says it is pretty bad.  He says the same thing about a really lax attitude onboard until the last couple days. Hopefully he is disembarking and did not get COVID!

 

2 hours ago, MissP22 said:

I wouldn't be surprised if Don was told by Princess to slightly change his tone about mask wearing, since he could influence many people with his Vlog. 

I watched that video too.  I got the impression from his video that he was commenting on human behavior in the face of stated rules.  He mentioned that the Alaska sailing required masks and social distancing, but the large majority of PAX were ignoring the onboard health protocols and crew wasn't enforcing the rules - thus significantly increasing the number of cases later on during the 14 day sailing.  The Captain announced stricter Covid rules and all of a sudden people started wearing masks and sip-n-cover was instituted in the venues.  He was remarking how many PAX were still not complying, he was not pooh-pooing the rules, he was pooh-pooing the people who were spreading Covid by not complying.

[memoak]

2 hours ago, Daniel A said:

 

I watched that video too.  I got the impression from his video that he was commenting on human behavior in the face of stated rules.  He mentioned that the Alaska sailing required masks and social distancing, but the large majority of PAX were ignoring the onboard health protocols and crew wasn't enforcing the rules - thus significantly increasing the number of cases later on during the 14 day sailing.  The Captain announced stricter Covid rules and all of a sudden people started wearing masks and sip-n-cover was instituted in the venues.  He was remarking how many PAX were still not complying, he was not pooh-pooing the rules, he was pooh-pooing the people who were spreading Covid by not complying.

I saw him on board several times during the cruise and he never had a mask on

[Daniel A]

11 minutes ago, memoak said:

I saw him on board several times during the cruise and he never had a mask on

Thanks for the information, I wasn't commenting on his conduct while aboard, I was commenting on the content and tone of his video.  I did not get the impression that he was encouraging others to disregard the protocols - that's all.  I hope you were safe.  

[memoak]

33 minutes ago, Daniel A said:

Thanks for the information, I wasn't commenting on his conduct while aboard, I was commenting on the content and tone of his video.  I did not get the impression that he was encouraging others to disregard the protocols - that's all.  I hope you were safe.  

I am in quarantine in Vancouver not what I would call safe. Me and hundreds of others   The line for the covid cases to disembark bound several time around prom deck   Then we stood in a line for an hour to get on a bus to a hotel where we are stuck till the end of the week. When protocols were being observed on the Majestic back in April there were very few cases and we felt very safe. Everyone on that cruise wore masks in elevators. Lon the Royal when we asked people to mask up on an elevator I was told to “Get over it” or “ Its my vacation not yours”

[Daniel A]

2 minutes ago, memoak said:

I am in quarantine in Vancouver not what I would call safe. Me and hundreds of others   The line for the covid cases to disembark bound several time around prom deck   Then we stood in a line for an hour to get on a bus to a hotel where we are stuck till the end of the week. When protocols were being observed on the Majestic back in April there were very few cases and we felt very safe. Everyone on that cruise wore masks in elevators. Lon the Royal when we asked people to mask up on an elevator I was told to “Get over it” or “ Its my vacation not yours”

I'm sorry to hear that, I hope you recover quickly and your symptoms are either mild or non-existent. Get better soon!

[Westsail32]

I'm a bit nervous about cruising in the post-covid era (we're not post yet).  I did take a cruise on Majestic last year and masks were required.  I felt pretty safe, the ship was only about 50% capacity, and everything went fine.  A few weeks ago I flew to Minnesota to see relatives.  No one at the airport was masked and even on the plane there were only a few of us.  I worked in healthcare before I retired and saw what Covid did (and is doing).  I have friends still working who tell me the horror stories.  It's not a "myth" as some believe.

 

I've had my shots and two boosters now.  When the new Pfizer vaccine comes out for the Omicron variant I'll be getting that one too.  I plan on being masked on my cruise this month for the most part, definitely while "commuting" around the ship in public spaces, and while waiting in lines. I'm sure I'll be one of the rare ones though.  I'm OK with that.  I picked a solo table for dining already and will try to avoid the crowds. 

 

 

[memoak]

1 hour ago, Oldhippy said:

Thanks for sharing your Covid experience.  

I and my husband are fully vaccinated and boosted and haven't got covid yet.  

I booked a Panama canal cruise thinking we would be ok concerning covid, but your post opened my eyes!  What was I thinking?  I'm sure most people aren't wearing masks and everyone is in close togeather everywhere on the ship! 

I just canceled the cruise.  I don't want to spend my 50th Anniversary with Covid, especially on a ship and in foreign ports!  I can have a great land vacation here in the United States.   Looking into Bass fishing in Florida and a week or so in Key West 🙂 😀 

 

We are still booked for a Panama cruise in March. Going to play wait and see for a bit. 

[PescadoAmarillo]

2 hours ago, Oldhippy said:

What was I thinking?  I'm sure most people aren't wearing masks and everyone is in close togeather everywhere on the ship! 

I just canceled the cruise.  I don't want to spend my 50th Anniversary with Covid, especially on a ship and in foreign ports!  I can have a great land vacation here in the United States.   Looking into Bass fishing in Florida and a week or so in Key West 🙂 😀 

 

I’m totally with you on this. I’ve long said that we all think it won’t happen to us, or if it does happen it won’t be bad, or we won’t report to Medical and will just quarantine in our cabin, or maybe even we won’t quarantine at all and just spread the goodness around.  I’m happy for all those people infected with COVID who say it wasn’t bad, or they were totally asymptomatic. Heck, my own husband is ready to return to the scene of the crime where he got sick. Vaya Con Dios. There are more things to do than spend time on a Petri dish of a cruise ship. Like football. 😆🏈

[GOLDENBONNY]

On 9/3/2022 at 6:01 PM, memoak said:

You infect someone who dies and that is called manslaughter

please get real. you really think everybody testing now with running nose? 

[Shelly97060]

On 9/3/2022 at 8:32 AM, donaldsc said:

Why would you expect any FCC.  After all you are on the ship.  If you had an accident of some type and were laid up in your cabin for a few days because you couldn't get around would you also expect FCC.  Also back in the day when the big issue was noro and you were isolated in your cabin because of it I am sure that people didn't expect FCC for their noro days.

 

DON

 

The FCC for days in isolation is part of the Covid Protection Progarm offered by Princess.

https://www.princess.com/plan/cruise-with-confidence/covid-19-protection-program/

[billco]

4 hours ago, PescadoAmarillo said:

I’m totally with you on this. I’ve long said that we all think it won’t happen to us, or if it does happen it won’t be bad, or we won’t report to Medical and will just quarantine in our cabin, or maybe even we won’t quarantine at all and just spread the goodness around.  I’m happy for all those people infected with COVID who say it wasn’t bad, or they were totally asymptomatic. Heck, my own husband is ready to return to the scene of the crime where he got sick. Vaya Con Dios. There are more things to do than spend time on a Petri dish of a cruise ship. Like football. 😆🏈

If we had gone through what happened to you I think we would  feel the same. Fortunately we were only moderately sick for a few days after departing the cruise ship. A 10 day inconvenience at worst. I guess we are slow learners as we have an Alaskan cruise next month, followed by a Coastal in November, a Panama Canal cruise and Caribbean cruise in January. Hopefully, a little less risk with the newfound natural immunity on top of the vaccinations and booster shots.

[SiliconCruiser]

6 hours ago, GOLDENBONNY said:

please get real. you really think everybody testing now with running nose? 

I did.

[bronzey214]

8 hours ago, Shelly97060 said:

The FCC for days in isolation is part of the Covid Protection Progarm offered by Princess.

https://www.princess.com/plan/cruise-with-confidence/covid-19-protection-program/

I think the big question is - what happens in 24 days when the Covid Protection Program ends?

Is this Princess's pivot to treating COVID like they did the flu/common cold/norovirus before? A health questionnaire where you solemnly swear I have none of these symptoms?

We were on the Crown a couple weeks back to Alaska and masked until we hit Juneau. Dinner service at Juneau only had one MDR open so they were filling all tables. When we were elbow to elbow with hundreds of other people unmasked we kind of went.... what's the point?

[MissP22]

1 hour ago, bronzey214 said:

We were on the Crown a couple weeks back to Alaska and masked until we hit Juneau. Dinner service at Juneau only had one MDR open so they were filling all tables. When we were elbow to elbow with hundreds of other people unmasked we kind of went.... what's the point?

Exactly. 

You might as well be comfortable for all the good it was doing.