Drink package calculator

[bound4dbeach]

I’ve saw an excel file a while ago for the princess drink file calculator:   If anyone have it, would you be willing to share it with me for an upcoming cruise.

[koreakruiser]

Cruise Drinks Package Calculator (2022) (cruisemummy.co.uk)

[Wishing on a star]

The thing is, if this is actually about adding the Beverage Package, now the Plus package gets the drinks, the gratuities, and the WIFI at a cheaper rate.

It should be $50.00 per day.

[Steelers36]

3 hours ago, Wishing on a star said:

The thing is, if this is actually about adding the Beverage Package, now the Plus package gets the drinks, the gratuities, and the WIFI at a cheaper rate.

It should be $50.00 per day.

Agree.  There is no point to the Plus or Premier Beverage Packages anymore with the Plus and Premier fare options.

 

It's a different calculation now.  Subtract the values of Crew Appreciation and MedallionNet fron $50 and then compare balance to what your beverage consumption habits are.

 

[skynight]

Basically if you select the plus fare the breakeven point is two to three alcoholic beverages/pp/day.

The calculation is $50 fare increase minus crew incentive of around $15/pp/day depending on cabin cat. minus internet which on the low end is $5 = $30. A couple of $10 alcoholic drinks or a few beers plus a few specialty coffees, some water bottles, maybe a soda or two and you are at $30.

Without the plus fare the cost of the $12 limit alcoholic beverage package is $70 plus the crew incentive of $15 plus the internet $5 = $90. That is a lot of drinks to cover, between 7 and 10 depending on what you drink. 

[Tedferg]

12 hours ago, skynight said:

Basically if you select the plus fare the breakeven point is two to three alcoholic beverages/pp/day.

The calculation is $50 fare increase minus crew incentive of around $15/pp/day depending on cabin cat. minus internet which on the low end is $5 = $30. A couple of $10 alcoholic drinks or a few beers plus a few specialty coffees, some water bottles, maybe a soda or two and you are at $30.

I agree, with a caveat. We have no use for Internet and so, it is $70 per day for drinks, a couple of my drinks will be beer at $6. Our next cruise will be 12 days with just 2 Sea Days, fewer coffees in International. We will have $300 OBC, $500 depending on how Excursion OBC is handled. At $40 pppd Plus was truly a no brainer and we did not bother to bring wine on board. Not sure it is as easy a decision this time. I will add that we will not have our two Cruise Buddies with us, and we don't drink as much when there is just two of us.

[Expat Cruise]

  Princess Cruises is really trying to cloud the issues here with these added packages. The bottom line is for the average guest no package pays for itself. Also once you take the package you are completely locked in and cannot change it. Simple logic says if Princess Cruises was not making money on these packages they would not offer them.  

[Tedferg]

14 hours ago, Expat Cruise said:

 Simple logic says if Princess Cruises was not making money on these packages they would not offer them.  

However, clever pricing can make it close enough to be an easy decision and so majority go for the package. This is a win - win for passengers and Princess.

[jwattle]

15 hours ago, Expat Cruise said:

  Princess Cruises is really trying to cloud the issues here with these added packages. The bottom line is for the average guest no package pays for itself. Also once you take the package you are completely locked in and cannot change it. Simple logic says if Princess Cruises was not making money on these packages they would not offer them.  

Maybe not for you; for a lot of people it is a win for both Princess to make money and for the passengers to come out ahead, no clouding, unless, like your signature says, you remove tips...then, yes, it becomes downright muddy ...😠

Edited October 24, 2022 by jwattle

[sloopsailor]

15 hours ago, Expat Cruise said:

  Princess Cruises is really trying to cloud the issues here with these added packages. The bottom line is for the average guest no package pays for itself. Also once you take the package you are completely locked in and cannot change it. Simple logic says if Princess Cruises was not making money on these packages they would not offer them.  

 

And simple logic says if passengers weren't getting value from these packages they wouldn't be buying them. Maybe it's the passengers who are taking advantage of Princess! I know I will save money with the Plus package by paying less for my coffees, sodas, water bottles, wine and alcoholic drinks than if I had to buy them individually. So aren't I the one "clouding the issues"???

 

Why in your view does everything have to be Princess trying to take advantage of passengers (I'm also including your insistence that Princess is selling the information gained by use of the medallion devices)?

Edited October 24, 2022 by sloopsailor

[wowzz]

20 hours ago, Expat Cruise said:

  Princess Cruises is really trying to cloud the issues here with these added packages. The bottom line is for the average guest no package pays for itself. Also once you take the package you are completely locked in and cannot change it. Simple logic says if Princess Cruises was not making money on these packages they would not offer them.  

I am an average guest, and the Princess Plus package more than pays for itself as far as I am concerned.

My wife and I save about $500 each by having the package on a 14 day cruise.

You should avoid making wild generalisations that have no basis in reality,  not only about packages but also about how Princess are tracking my whereabouts,  in order to sell my movements to some unidentified organisation !

[skynight]

21 hours ago, Expat Cruise said:

  Princess Cruises is really trying to cloud the issues here with these added packages. The bottom line is for the average guest no package pays for itself. Also once you take the package you are completely locked in and cannot change it. Simple logic says if Princess Cruises was not making money on these packages they would not offer them.  

No clouds here. Very clear sky. Plus fare pays for itself if you drink 2 to 3 alcoholic beverages per day and it is very convenient. Those with lots of OBC can do the math. 

[jwattle]

37 minutes ago, Expat Cruise said:

  Again Princess Cruises is in business to make money. If the average person got more value than they paid for these packages Princess would not offer them. Maybe you should learn to read posts and understand them a little better. It is only muddy if one lacks the ability to think and understand how businesses operate.  

 

Let me make it simpler: the package works out VERY well for my husband and myself. It also works for Princess due to the pour cost of liquor. Win /win. For some, it doesn't. I understand your post very well. So do others.

Edited October 25, 2022 by jwattle

[Over from NZ]

It's really simple. It works for some.. and not for others. It all depends on your individual drinking habits. It's a lot harder to justify down under where the gratuities are not included in the drink package. But hey, that said.. much younger me would have smashed it! haha. I would say though.. if you need a calculator to work out if it's for you.. then it's probably not for you. lol. 

[wowzz]

14 minutes ago, Over from NZ said:

It's really simple. It works for some.. and not for others. It all depends on your individual drinking habits. It's a lot harder to justify down under where the gratuities are not included in the drink package. But hey, that said.. much younger me would have smashed it! haha. I would say though.. if you need a calculator to work out if it's for you.. then it's probably not for you. lol. 

Absolutely. We are in "profit" by lunchtime !

No need to look at a calculator.

In fact, even if PP didn't include tips and WiFi it would still make economic sense for us to buy it.

[wynkys]

Pre-Covid, I did a seven night cruise (not on Princess) and when I compared the onboard price of the drinks I had against the package price, I finished over $A1000 ahead.

The fact that the line went broke during the lockdown surely had nothing to do with me!

 

[SClakeliving]

16 hours ago, Expat Cruise said:

  Again Princess Cruises is in business to make money. If the average person got more value than they paid for these packages Princess would not offer them. Maybe you should learn to read posts and understand them a little better. It is only muddy if one lacks the ability to think and understand how businesses operate.  

 

I would normally agree with you (( i.e. that Princess makes money/comes out ahead or wouldn't offer package...much like a Casino  where the "house always wins")) EXCEPT in this post-Covid world when the Cruise industry is trying to make a come-back, trying to get people back on their ships .... then they will offer a "lost leader" package to get your business over choosing another cruise line. So, in this case, I do think the the passengers come out ahead. As time goes on perhaps things will get more competitive and Princess will go back to offering packages that benefit them.

[skynight]

On 10/24/2022 at 9:07 PM, Expat Cruise said:

  Again Princess Cruises is in business to make money. If the average person got more value than they paid for these packages Princess would not offer them. Maybe you should learn to read posts and understand them a little better. It is only muddy if one lacks the ability to think and understand how businesses operate.  

 

Remembering that alcoholic beverages are purchased by Princess without any local or federal taxes the plan works for Princess because the cost to pour an alcoholic beverage is way less than what is charged. Plans work for many passengers because the breakeven point is based on menu prices. The weakness with Princess inclusive fares is that they do not offer a non-alcoholic version. Maybe this is an oversight or unlike alcoholic beverages maybe it is that the menu price on non alcoholic beverages is closer to the actual cost.