2552phxcrzr Posted November 3, 2022 #76 Share Posted November 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, mhoffrob said: okay, but I'm (timidly) dying to ask - can I really not wear sandals to any of the restaurants? I'm not talking about flip flops, but women's dressy0ish sandles with good arch support? I can wear them to the country cloub, so is that okay? Technically the dress code says no sandals, but they are what I usually wear. I've never sailed O before and I'm perplexed on if I have to bring closed shoes and nylons to eat my dinner. Dressy sandals are quite OK. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhoffrob Posted November 3, 2022 #77 Share Posted November 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, 2552phxcrzr said: Dressy sandals are quite OK. Thank you for putting my mind at ease!!! (sorry for the typos in my above post!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted November 3, 2022 #78 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, mhoffrob said: okay, but I'm (timidly) dying to ask - can I really not wear sandals to any of the restaurants? I'm not talking about flip flops, but women's dressy0ish sandles with good arch support? I can wear them to the country cloub, so is that okay? Technically the dress code says no sandals, but they are what I usually wear. I've never sailed O before and I'm perplexed on if I have to bring closed shoes and nylons to eat my dinner. I am sure you already know they mean flip flops or beach sandals Most ladies will wear dress sandals in the evenings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SargassoPirate Posted November 3, 2022 #79 Share Posted November 3, 2022 10 hours ago, 2552phxcrzr said: Dressy sandals are quite OK. Ok for men too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robjame Posted November 3, 2022 #80 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, SargassoPirate said: Ok for men too? As long as you have had a recent pedi, keep your nail polish current and complete and have washed your feet in the last week. A few discreet sequins or small flowers on the sandals help to make them looking classy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted November 3, 2022 #81 Share Posted November 3, 2022 2 hours ago, SargassoPirate said: Ok for men too? If a serious question ...NO But up to the Maitre'd to allow you in or not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robjame Posted November 3, 2022 #82 Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, SargassoPirate said: Ok for men too? Edited November 3, 2022 by Robjame 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrill Posted November 3, 2022 #83 Share Posted November 3, 2022 In reply to the OP, I'm with you 100%. Yes it can be said the cruise industry is "in transition" and therefore ships don't want to annoy dress code ignorers who are paying guests, when the cruise line needs their money. However, a cruise line that repeatedly allows casual dress which goes against their published dress codes, is forgetting one of the reasons that cruise line became successful over the years: an expectation that the onboard experience will be as advertised. NCL doesn't advertise as a upscale cruise line. Neither does Carnival, and no one would expect them to be. But Regent and Oceania do. Cunard as well. Guests who choose to travel on those lines have a reasonable expectation that their onboard experience will be upscale, as advertised. And when it isn't that way, especially when it's done on purpose by the ship's staff, guests are right to inquire and express their displeasure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamaclark Posted November 4, 2022 #84 Share Posted November 4, 2022 On 10/27/2022 at 2:41 PM, escrick said: I notice ripped jeans. My take on them is that the wearers like whatever is trendy, and that they are signalling that they are into recycling whatever the cost. Presumably, they can say they are environmentally friendly. It baffles me, though. I just have to jump on here on the ripped jean thing. I have seen this trendy item for $400, "dry clean only." 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zalusky Posted November 4, 2022 #85 Share Posted November 4, 2022 29 minutes ago, mamaclark said: I just have to jump on here on the ripped jean thing. I have seen this trendy item for $400, "dry clean only." 🤣 Likewise I have seen Tuxedos that look like clown outfits. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no1talks Posted November 4, 2022 #86 Share Posted November 4, 2022 18 hours ago, Boatdrill said: "And when it isn't that way, especially when it's done on purpose by the ship's staff, guests are right to inquire and express their displeasure." Unfortunately, the unspoken response will be akin to: "Look, all the top-tier cruise lines are letting things slide to varying degrees. Where are you going to go?" I make this observation as someone who is in a tux every evening of a cruise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted November 4, 2022 #87 Share Posted November 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, no1talks said: I make this observation as someone who is in a tux every evening of a cruise. On Oceania ?? Are you part of the staff? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zalusky Posted November 4, 2022 #88 Share Posted November 4, 2022 I long ago donated my Tux to Goodwill. Just not worth packing it and times have changed. I can't think of the last time I got some upsell from the cruise line about renting tuxes. It's not 2004 any more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no1talks Posted November 4, 2022 #89 Share Posted November 4, 2022 29 minutes ago, LHT28 said: "Are you part of the staff?" I'm not on any ship's staff. I am a tradionalist and dress for dinner by 6 pm. If in port, I plan my day to allow for a timely return to the ship for such. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted November 4, 2022 #90 Share Posted November 4, 2022 2 hours ago, no1talks said: I'm not on any ship's staff. I am a tradionalist and dress for dinner by 6 pm. If in port, I plan my day to allow for a timely return to the ship for such. I have rarely seen a tux on Oceania but if you like to dress up enjoy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepherd really Posted November 4, 2022 #91 Share Posted November 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, LHT28 said: I have rarely seen a tux on Oceania but if you like to dress up enjoy I guess I could shake the moths off mine. A tux never goes out of style. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shank63 Posted November 4, 2022 #92 Share Posted November 4, 2022 To me the dress code is simple and straightforward. Country Club Casual. Although we are no longer members of a country club but occasionally attend as guests, the standards are uniformly respected by members and guests, i.e., no headwear, jeans, non collard shirts, etc allowed in the clubhouse. Dining room dress standards are generally more strict (jackets for men) and respected as well. The reality is that attitudes have changed and for some, rules and laws are optional and traditions are not respected. I intend to follow the club casual dress code and encourage other traditionalists to follow suit. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SargassoPirate Posted November 5, 2022 #93 Share Posted November 5, 2022 14 hours ago, shank63 said: To me the dress code is simple and straightforward. Country Club Casual. Although we are no longer members of a country club but occasionally attend as guests, the standards are uniformly respected by members and guests, i.e., no headwear, jeans, non collard shirts, etc allowed in the clubhouse. Dining room dress standards are generally more strict (jackets for men) and respected as well. The reality is that attitudes have changed and for some, rules and laws are optional and traditions are not respected. I intend to follow the club casual dress code and encourage other traditionalists to follow suit. When cruising, my evening attire is black slacks, black sport coat, and a variety of colored T-shirts with matching pocket squares. I pack light and usually combine land travel with a cruise, so everything does double duty. Never been turned away on a formal night on any cruise and there always seems to be some guy in shorts and wearing his ballcap backwards that serves as a diversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ORV Posted November 5, 2022 #94 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) 23 hours ago, shank63 said: To me the dress code is simple and straightforward. Country Club Casual. Although we are no longer members of a country club but occasionally attend as guests, the standards are uniformly respected by members and guests, i.e., no headwear, jeans, non collard shirts, etc allowed in the clubhouse. Dining room dress standards are generally more strict (jackets for men) and respected as well. The reality is that attitudes have changed and for some, rules and laws are optional and traditions are not respected. I intend to follow the club casual dress code and encourage other traditionalists to follow suit. Yes BUT, last week we went to our friends Country Club for a private function for my wife's birthday. It is one of the more prestigious CC's in the area. We were in a private room, so I don't know how everyone was dressed, but as I was out in the hallway I saw one young couple(30ish) leaving the dining room. She looked nice, he, logoed t-shirt with a ball cap. This was on a Saturday evening. I don't know if he took the cap off during dinner as we didn't eat in that dining room. They had a leftover container, so I doubt they'd been turned away. Yes, the times they are changing. Me, I'm more amused than concerned about the whole dress code thing. Edited November 5, 2022 by ORV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbwex Posted November 5, 2022 #95 Share Posted November 5, 2022 I heartily agree that this topic has been discussed a lot. At the same time, I don't see that asking people to wear a minimum of a collared shirt and slacks is so much to ask. To wear less is really insulting to the rest of the passengers and shows a lack of concern about the feelings of others. Just because people wear jeans and T-shirts does not make it appropriate. Dressing inappropriately is classy -- it is just low class(y). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanoNorthPerth Posted November 5, 2022 #96 Share Posted November 5, 2022 23 hours ago, shepherd really said: I guess I could shake the moths off mine. A tux never goes out of style. Were you once in a 60's rock band? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zalusky Posted November 5, 2022 #97 Share Posted November 5, 2022 I am at a bit of a loss why people seem to prefer a plasticy looking tux to nice looking jeans! Our local NBC news casters are doing the Friday night news wearing jeans and suit jacket and no tie. Does not bother me and personally I think it looks good! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no1talks Posted November 5, 2022 #98 Share Posted November 5, 2022 47 minutes ago, zalusky said: "...a plasticy looking tux..." I've not seen a palsticy tux in a great many years. I'll look into booking an 80s New Wave nostalgia cruise. Plasticy tuxes are certain to turn up there! 😉 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrill Posted November 6, 2022 #99 Share Posted November 6, 2022 6 hours ago, zalusky said: I am at a bit of a loss why people seem to prefer a plasticy looking tux to nice looking jeans! Clothes are created and designed for certain purposes. When those clothes show up at a place/occasion they weren't created for, it's awkward. People notice and naturally have their own opinion about it. I know a man who cannot stand to see men wear overalls when boarding a ship. I know someone else who cannot stand to see people wearing beach flip flops when boarding a ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zalusky Posted November 6, 2022 #100 Share Posted November 6, 2022 40 minutes ago, Boatdrill said: Clothes are created and designed for certain purposes. When those clothes show up at a place/occasion they weren't created for, it's awkward. People notice and naturally have their own opinion about it. I know a man who cannot stand to see men wear overalls when boarding a ship. I know someone else who cannot stand to see people wearing beach flip flops when boarding a ship. True originally Denim was designed for cowboys doing laborer work. Now days the clothing companies are DESIGNING denim for social events and charging appropriately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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