Does anyone know what the interpretation of this requirement is? Very confusing

[mauimary]

 

As of March 21, 2023, proof of a negative COVID-19 test is no longer required for guests embarking on Transocean sailings, except for those on back-to-back sailings in Australia/New Zealand and those aboard the April 22nd, 2023 Celebrity Eclipse 18 Night Tahiti, New Zealand & Hawaii sailing out of Sydney, Australia.  

For guests on back-to-back sailings 
All back-to-back guests will be required to take part in a complimentary COVID-19 test, prior to reboarding a Transatlantic or Transpacific leg of their journey.  
 

? A cruise prior to a Transatlantic which would be someone coming off a Carribean cruise and continuing on a transatlantic. 
OR

? A transatlantic cruiser continuing on a European cruise on the same ship?

 

Very confusing and the wording is very poor! 
 

[prmssk]

My. understanding is that the required B2B test is BEFORE the transatlantic/transpacific.  So those doing a Caribbean cruise first and then a transatlantic would have to take a test between.  Or those starting in Sydney going to Honolulu and then continuing on to Vancouver would need a B2B test in Honolulu.  This part of the language matches my understanding.

 

3 minutes ago, mauimary said:

prior to reboarding a Transatlantic or Transpacific leg of their journey.  

 

[mauimary]

1 minute ago, prmssk said:

My. understanding is that the required B2B test is BEFORE the transatlantic/transpacific.  So those doing a Caribbean cruise first and then a transatlantic would have to take a test between.  Or those starting in Sydney going to Honolulu and then continuing on to Vancouver would need a B2B test in Honolulu.  This part of the language matches my understanding.

 

 

That is how we interpret as well. 

[mnocket]

30 minutes ago, prmssk said:

My. understanding is that the required B2B test is BEFORE the transatlantic/transpacific.  So those doing a Caribbean cruise first and then a transatlantic would have to take a test between.  Or those starting in Sydney going to Honolulu and then continuing on to Vancouver would need a B2B test in Honolulu.  This part of the language matches my understanding.

 

 

 

27 minutes ago, mauimary said:

That is how we interpret as well. 

That's not how I interpret it.  I read the requirement as explicitly stating there are 2 circumstances where Covid testing is necessary...

1. "those on back-to-back sailings in Australia/New Zealand"
2. "those aboard the April 22nd, 2023 Celebrity Eclipse..."

 

That's it.  When it goes on to say "For guests on back-to-back sailings..."  I read that as applying to the two circumstances listed.  I suspect the reason has something to do with government regulations for cruise ships departing Australia & New Zealand.

 

It certainly could, and should, have been worded better, but I see this as a limited requirement that doesn't apply to B2Bs from the Caribbean or anywhere else other than the two circumstances listed.  I reserve the right to be wrong🙂

[Alakegirl]

If you are on B2B sailings within Australia, expect to be called for a test at the end of the first cruise.

[Jim_Iain]

My understanding after much convincing from members on the April 23 TA -  

 

Originally B2B testing was required for the April 23 TA from the April 15 (Key West / Belize).   Also all passengers on the TA were required to self tesl

 

On March 21 they revised to say NO TESTing required and no B2B testing required for the TA out of FLL to Europe.    They could really have written better but says now that only B2B testing required for Australia / New Zealand

[prmssk]

3 hours ago, mnocket said:

 

That's not how I interpret it.  I read the requirement as explicitly stating there are 2 circumstances where Covid testing is necessary...

1. "those on back-to-back sailings in Australia/New Zealand"
2. "those aboard the April 22nd, 2023 Celebrity Eclipse..."

 

That's it.  When it goes on to say "For guests on back-to-back sailings..."  I read that as applying to the two circumstances listed.  I suspect the reason has something to do with government regulations for cruise ships departing Australia & New Zealand.

 

It certainly could, and should, have been worded better, but I see this as a limited requirement that doesn't apply to B2Bs from the Caribbean or anywhere else other than the two circumstances listed.  I reserve the right to be wrong🙂

You definitely could be right. It is really poorly worded. 

[mauimary]

What about the part that says “prior to reboarding a Transpacific(I get that part) or TRANSATLANTIC leg? It’s the Transatlantic that we need to deal with. 
 

It talks about B2B involving Transatlantic cruises. 

Edited March 29, 2023 by mauimary

[mayleeman]

19 minutes ago, mauimary said:

What about the part that says “prior to reboarding a Transpacific(I get that part) or TRANSATLANTIC leg? It’s the Transatlantic that we need to deal with. 

 

Good question. Not many people can reboard a TransAtlantic sailing involving Australia, Tahiti, New Zealand or Hawaii.

 

A different question: Does it actually matter? Will you take different precautions if a test is required? I probably would be more cautious about crowds, but most people here seem more resigned to it all than I am. 

Edited March 29, 2023 by mayleeman

[Northern Aurora]

I am posting from the Eclipse which is in NZ/Aust. waters.  B2B passengers have been provided with Covid tests and we are on the honor system to report positive results.

[mauimary]

9 minutes ago, mayleeman said:

 

Good question. Not many people can reboard a TransAtlantic sailing involving Australia, Tahiti, New Zealand or Hawaii.

 

A different question: Does it actually matter? Will you take different precautions if a test is required? I probably would be more cautious about crowds, but most people here seem more resigned to it all than I am. 

We actually are one of those that take precautions and carry our own tests.  I just don’t want to have to worry the entire time on our Transatlantic about having to test.  We are fine with doing them ourselves on the honor system. 

[Ken the cruiser]

1 hour ago, Northern Aurora said:

I am posting from the Eclipse which is in NZ/Aust. waters.  B2B passengers have been provided with Covid tests and we are on the honor system to report positive results.

We’re getting ready to board the Eclipse on a B3B starting April 19. I’ve read X will be providing a complimentary test kit for each of us in our cabin the day prior to each transition day. Are you suggesting we don’t need to show anyone the results if we don’t want to? Interesting…

[Northern Aurora]

20 hours ago, Ken the cruiser said:

We’re getting ready to board the Eclipse on a B3B starting April 19. I’ve read X will be providing a complimentary test kit for each of us in our cabin the day prior to each transition day. Are you suggesting we don’t need to show anyone the results if we don’t want to? Interesting…

We boarded on March 10th.   At that time we had to show the boarding staff in Sydney our negative Covid test strips.

 

Our first turnaround day on this b2b2b2b was March 15th.  We were provided test kits and tested in the privacy of our staterooms.  The Retreat Concierges told us only to report if we tested positive.  I had asked her if she wanted to see the actual test strips.  The answer was no.  I also asked the butler if he wanted to see them and was told the same thing.  No one wanted to actually see the negative test strips.

 

Our second turnaround day was March 26th.  Again test kits were left in the staterooms.  This time we had an instruction letter.  Any one who tested positive was asked to call Guest Relations by 5 pm. If you tested positive and did not opt to remain in quarantine for seven days you could leave the ship and receive a full refund.  Again no wanted to actually see the test results.  So far we are on the honor system.

 

Our final turnaround day will be April 6th so we will see I’d anything changes.  We leave the ship the day you board.

[Ken the cruiser]

2 minutes ago, Northern Aurora said:

We boarded on March 10th.   At that time we had to show the boarding staff in Sydney our negative Covid test strips.

 

Our first turnaround day on this b2b2b2b was March 15th.  We were provided test kits and tested in the privacy of our staterooms.  The Retreat Concierges told us only to report if we tested positive.  I had asked her if she wanted to see the actual test strips.  The answer was no.  I also asked the butler if he wanted to see them and was told the same thing.  No one wanted to actually see the negative test strips.

 

Our second turnaround day was March 26th.  Again test kits were left in the staterooms.  This time we had an instruction letter.  Any one who tested positive was asked to call Guest Relations by 5 pm. If you tested positive and did not opt to remain in quarantine for seven days you could leave the ship and receive a full refund.  Again no wanted to actually see the test results.  So far we are on the honor system.

 

Our final turnaround day will be April 6th so we will see I’d anything changes.  We leave the ship the day you board.

Sounds fair. For us we’ll be taking a “trial” test prior to flying to Sydney from Alabama just to make sure we’re negative before getting on the plane. Then we’ll bring a couple tests with us and do our “official” test just prior to boarding the Eclipse on April 19. Thanks for the update and hope you continue to have a great cruise!! 😁

[Northern Aurora]

20 hours ago, Ken the cruiser said:

Sounds fair. For us we’ll be taking a “trial” test prior to flying to Sydney from Alabama just to make sure we’re negative before getting on the plane. Then we’ll bring a couple tests with us and do our “official” test just prior to boarding the Eclipse on April 19. Thanks for the update and hope you continue to have a great cruise!! 😁

We essentially did the same as we tested at our home in Fairbanks, Alaska before flying to Honolulu for  several days.  In Honolulu tested again before flying to Sydney.  
 

I should also add that there were sufficient cases on the March 15th leg that near the end of that leg masks were asked to be worn in the casino and theater.  We are aware of both staff and passenger cases.

[JBare]

8 hours ago, Ken the cruiser said:

We’re getting ready to board the Eclipse on a B3B starting April 19. I’ve read X will be providing a complimentary test kit for each of us in our cabin the day prior to each transition day. Are you suggesting we don’t need to show anyone the results if we don’t want to? Interesting…

We've just completed back to back 10th and 15th March. Test kits are awaiting in your cabin after reboarding on transition day.Tests are on an honour basis so no you don't have to report any result positive or negative.