tx121 Posted October 9, 2023 #1 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Was Utopia of the Seas always planned for 3/4 night cruises or do you think originally it was meant for deployment elsewhere but was changed due to global circumstances?. The Wonder was built for the Asia / Chinese market but then it was changed. Was Utopia meant to be in Asia as well? It would be very interesting if RCL used Icon 2 Star of Seas for 3/4 night cruises. The price right now for Icon of the Seas is shockingly very expensive compared to when they first opened up the sale of cabins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted October 9, 2023 #2 Share Posted October 9, 2023 25 minutes ago, tx121 said: Was Utopia of the Seas always planned for 3/4 night cruises or do you think originally it was meant for deployment elsewhere but was changed due to global circumstances?. The Wonder was built for the Asia / Chinese market but then it was changed. Was Utopia meant to be in Asia as well? It would be very interesting if RCL used Icon 2 Star of Seas for 3/4 night cruises. The price right now for Icon of the Seas is shockingly very expensive compared to when they first opened up the sale of cabins. Always planned for the 3/4 day market... at least from what has been publicly announced. Utopia was neer intended for the Asian market 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OCSC Mike Posted October 9, 2023 #3 Share Posted October 9, 2023 46 minutes ago, tx121 said: It would be very interesting if RCL used Icon 2 Star of Seas for 3/4 night cruises. Not my area of expertise but I highly doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saab4444 Posted October 9, 2023 #4 Share Posted October 9, 2023 No cruise ship is build for use on 3/4 nights or 7 nights or longer cruises only. They can always adjust specifically required details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OCSC Mike Posted October 9, 2023 #5 Share Posted October 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, Saab4444 said: No cruise ship is build for use on 3/4 nights or 7 nights or longer cruises only. Of course, but that doesn't mean RC doesn't have an itinerary/port plan in mind long before a new ship launches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted October 9, 2023 #6 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) And looking back it's funny how many on here said that there was NO WAY that Royal would put a new ship into the 3/4 day market Edited October 9, 2023 by molly361 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted October 9, 2023 #7 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, molly361 said: And looking back it's funny how many on here said that there was NO WAY that Royal would put a new ship into the 3/4 day market Some quite emphatically.🤣 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OCSC Mike Posted October 9, 2023 #8 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said: Some quite emphatically.🤣 There were still people posting "I'll believe it when I see it" within months of the release and that gaping hole in the PC 3/4 schedule beginning in July 2024 staring them in the face. 🤷♀️ Edited October 9, 2023 by OCSC Mike 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare crewsweeper Posted October 9, 2023 #9 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Doesn't the Miracle do 3/4 day out of PC? I have heard those cruises sail full. Adding Utopia to the mix is just meeting market demand. Haven't priced it but curious if a B2B on Utopia is more than a 7 day Caribbean at current prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted October 9, 2023 #10 Share Posted October 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, OCSC Mike said: There were still people posting "I'll believe it when I see it" within months of the release and that gaping hole in the PC 3/4 schedule beginning in July 2024 staring them in the face. 🤷♀️ If I remember right a lot didn't think the ship would be coming to PC either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OCSC Mike Posted October 9, 2023 #11 Share Posted October 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, crewsweeper said: Haven't priced it but curious if a B2B on Utopia is more than a 7 day Caribbean at current prices. When Utopia was first released, I made a couple of those comparisons. They were close and Utopia may have been cheaper for some off-peak times. For peak times, not so much. Specifically, for our spring break 2025, I was going to do a Utopia B2B but a week on Wonder was something like $600-700 cheaper for an interior. That's a large difference when you're spending under $2000 for 2 people and I couldn't justify paying it for a nearly identical ship as much as I'd like to see the newness and love CocoCay. I haven't checked Utopia since then so no idea what prices are like now (other than expensive). *NOTE: My comparisons involved TA group rates so others may have had different results shopping straight from through the RC website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted October 9, 2023 #12 Share Posted October 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, crewsweeper said: Doesn't the Miracle do 3/4 day out of PC? I have heard those cruises sail full. Adding Utopia to the mix is just meeting market demand. Haven't priced it but curious if a B2B on Utopia is more than a 7 day Caribbean at current prices. And miracle was built in a by gone day. Only a few ships older than spirit class left. That class does have the most space per pax of any carnival classes and is considered quite beautiful. Not sure it's exactly competition for utopia. Closer to radiance OTS for instance. Days gone by. And even carnival I never see cruises under $100 a day, from Florida or PC. And I'm not taking fake pricing where someone quotes a peice then doesnt say per person based on double occupancy before taxes and fees. I deal in real prices, the total price. And not a casino rate. Only msc left at lower prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare crewsweeper Posted October 9, 2023 #13 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Sorry I meant the Mariner OTS or the Independence OTS, not Miracle. One of those 2 does 3/4 day cruises.My bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted October 9, 2023 #14 Share Posted October 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, crewsweeper said: Sorry I meant the Mariner OTS or the Independence OTS, not Miracle. One of those 2 does 3/4 day cruises.My bad. Indy does 3/4 out of PC but she is leaving later this month I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare crewsweeper Posted October 9, 2023 #15 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, molly361 said: Indy does 3/4 out of PC but she is leaving later this month I believe That explains the presence of Utopia. Thank you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted October 9, 2023 #16 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, crewsweeper said: That explains the presence of Utopia. Thank you. The Allure is coming later this month to PC to do the 3/4 She leaves July 2024 and Utopia takes her place 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OCSC Mike Posted October 9, 2023 #17 Share Posted October 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, molly361 said: The Allure is coming later this month to PC to do the 3/4 Hey, she's doing a 5-nighter first! I've heard it's going be like an inaugural and President's cruise combined... free DBP and UDP for everyone! Oh wait, that might might have been a dream I had. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bead Pirate Posted October 9, 2023 #18 Share Posted October 9, 2023 We keep adding on to our utopia schedule... we are up to a B2B2B2B and will probably add one more after earning free cruise next week (provided same room available again) ... Make them as long as you want 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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