Is sharing a soda card stealing?

[Calicruiser101]

Ok, so on our last cruise, I bough a soda card and I bought one for DD (age 10) DH was allowed to sip on my left-over soda only.:D I would send my DD to get me a diet coke all the time, was that stealing too? I mean I paid for a card for her and for me, but when she went she was using her card w/ her name on it? Just curious. I do not think it is stealing to send her down there, lazy yes. Oh, and I like Kurban have no problem "sharing" a soda w/ our DH.

 

 

I am reposting my question as it seems that those that do no wrong have disappeared and I am only left w/ the rebels here.:D I know how they would answer.:)

[RocHed11]

It's Absolutly Amazing to me how we justify doing the things we know are wrong. Like Stealing Sodas.

 

T

[KC_fn]

oops

[islandchicklet]

I am reposting my question as it seems that those that do no wrong have disappeared and I am only left w/ the rebels here.:D I know how they would answer.:)

 

Why would that have been stealing? She had a card, she was just using yours. And, yes, they are gone. It must be tiring carrying around the weight of all the sinners in the world:rolleyes: .

[Kurbanfan]

It's Absolutly Amazing to me how we justify doing the things we know are wrong. Like Stealing Sodas.

 

T

 

There's that word again. "Justify":eek:

The only ones that use that word is the ones trying to proove sharing a soda is stealing. That's the word they use when they don't know what else to say LOL!

I'm not trying to justify anything...are you Cali? Islandchicklet?

[islandchicklet]

There's that word again. "Justify":eek:

The only ones that use that word is the ones trying to proove sharing a soda card is stealing. That's the word they use when they don't know what else to say LOL!

I'm not trying to justify anything...are you Cali? Islandchicklet?

 

Nope!! I am only responsible to one person and HE isn't on CC:D !

[Calicruiser101]

There's that word again. "Justify":eek:

The only ones that use that word is the ones trying to proove sharing a soda is stealing. That's the word they use when they don't know what else to say LOL!

I'm not trying to justify anything...are you Cali? Islandchicklet?

I didn't know that having a discussion and a difference of opinion meant I was trying to justify something. Being as how I don't think sharing your soda w/ your DH is wrong there really is nothing to justify. They need to relax.

[lappy22]

Straight from Carnival:

 

What is the Fountain Fun Card?

 

"We will offer to all guests the option to purchase a "Fountain Fun Card" which will allow them unlimited soft drinks for the duration of the cruise at a one time purchase price (including gratuities). The "Fountain Fun Card" can be purchased at the casino, lobby and pool bar onboard the ship. In all locations where beverage service is offered, guests may receive a glass of the soft drink of their choice - one glass will be served at a time and only to the guest whose name appears on the card. The card cannot be used through room service.

 

NOTE: A 15% gratuity will automatically be added on at the time of purchase of the Fountain Fun Card."

 

For all of you who thinks it is stealing, where in this FAQ from Carnival does it state that the Fountain Fun Card holder must drink the soft drink that was served to them and can not be given to someone else?

[jessemon]

Straight from Carnival:

 

What is the Fountain Fun Card?

 

"We will offer to all guests the option to purchase a "Fountain Fun Card" which will allow them unlimited soft drinks for the duration of the cruise at a one time purchase price (including gratuities). The "Fountain Fun Card" can be purchased at the casino, lobby and pool bar onboard the ship. In all locations where beverage service is offered, guests may receive a glass of the soft drink of their choice - one glass will be served at a time and only to the guest whose name appears on the card. The card cannot be used through room service.

 

NOTE: A 15% gratuity will automatically be added on at the time of purchase of the Fountain Fun Card."

 

For all of you who thinks it is stealing, where in this FAQ from Carnival does it state that the Fountain Fun Card holder must drink the soft drink that was served to them and can not be given to someone else?

The word "them" (that guest which purchased the card) says it all. It does not say "them" and whoever they would like to pass sodas out to.

"Them" in this case is singular not plural.

Some people are always looking for a way to beat the system...:(

[KC_fn]

Some people are always looking for a way to beat the system...:(

 

Yep.

 

Sheesh, people, if you can afford a cruise, surely you can afford a soda card. Just do what you know is right. Or, if you choose not to, don't try to convince yourself that it is.

[beachchick]

Adults' Fountain Soda Package:

This package entitles guests 18 years of age and older to unlimited consumption of fountain sodas (no cans) at all bars and lounges, Windjammer, Main Dining Room and Private Destinations (CocoCay and Labadee®).

 

This package is available for purchase on the day of embarkation at all bars and lounges and may be charged to your SeaPass account. After this package has been purchased, a sticker will be placed on your boarding card allowing you to consume fountain sodas (no cans) throughout your cruise. A complimentary Coca Cola souvenir cup is included as part of the package.

 

The cost of the package is $6.00 per person, per day, and is applicable to the total days of the cruise vacation. A 15% gratuity charge will be added.

 

Please note: The fountain soda package is only available for the total amount of days of the cruise and prices are subject to change without notice.

 

As simple as it gets!

 

While I completely agree with you, using a direct quote from RCI is neither here nor there for what Carnival specifically says. We don't share soda stickers, whether it spells it out in those exact words or not. The concept is pretty clear, IMO.

 

You know when lurkers from other boards come over here all they have been seeing lately Is a bunch of posts whining

"why can't I wear shorts for dinner..."

"why can't I buy 1 soda card for my family to share..."

"why can't I smuggle my beloved Captain Morgan on board..."

"why can't my kids run up and down the halls banging on doors..."

"why can't I drag a hard sided rolling cooler on behind me..."

and on and on and on ad nauseum.

 

Then when someone comes on says they have heard bad things about Carnival everyone gets upset. If I never cruised Carnival and all I knew about the average Carnival passenger is what I read on this board I would a$$ume we were all a bunch of clods with a few trying desperately to teach manners and morals that should have been learned at mamas knee.

 

Never fear. You'll find the exact same type of arguments on many of the other forums. In fact, I was chuckling to myself wondering if y'all argue/debate all those subjects you just mentioned--because they're the subject of much heated debate on the forums I usually visit. Must be a universal thing.;)

 

Stealing is stealing. It doesn't matter who you're stealing from. It doesn't matter what the item is worth. It doesn't matter why you think you're entitled to the item. If you didn't pay for it, you stole it.

 

"Our character is what we do when we think no one is looking." H. Jackson Brown. Jr. Are you willing to sell your character for the price of a soda card?

 

(Kurban, we meet again! :p )

 

My grandma (bless her Southern soul), my other grandma (bless her French soul), and my parents all drummed that into my head when I was young. That pretty well sums it up, I think. (Must confess that once I got a soda for my sister, who had not bought the soda package. We both felt kind of weird about it later. She said, "I think the grandmas are not pleased." (But, we did not go offer to pay for the soda we "stole" for her. Bad beachchick!) Are we perfect? Oh hell no! Do we try to do the right thing? Yes, as often as possible.

 

However, I don't think the issue is so black and white that situations cannot be taken into account. I believe that having the soda package, ordering a soda, realizing that you can't finish the last bit, and asking, "Hey hon. Would you like the last of my soda?" is not the same as saying, "I'm going to buy one soda package for the whole family to use all day, every day for the entire cruise." The first is not an intended "cheat," while the second most clearly is. If anyone thinks that we're "stealing" if I'm going to leave the last inch of soda anyway and my DH finishes it off, you're entitled to your opinion. For anyone who feels the need to justify ("soda should be included with the cruise fare"--well, sure that would be nice, but it's not) or rationalize ("my kids won't drink enough soda to get one for each, so we'll buy one for all to share"--then buy individual sodas) or argue ("just for that, I'm going to try to 'give' as many sodas as possible to as many others as possible because I'm mad that the soda package is supposed to be for one person only..."--sorry, but I hope you get caught), then I know others won't be able to change your minds. Just ask yourself if the need to rationalize your actions means it's possible that you know those actions are wrong?

 

I think it's a huge stretch to equate soda sharing with drunk driving. IMO, it's usually better to stay close to the actual subject, rather than making sweeping generalizations. But that's just me. We've not yet cruised with Carnival, but do intend to. We've been on Princess, RCI, NCL, NVC, and the ill-fated US Lines. My mom has also been on HAL, Oceania, Cruise West, and Costa. I say this only to emphasize that these arguments are the same throughout at least that many of the CC forums.:p

 

Peace.

 

beachchick

[cruise_lover]

is it really that serious??? I would do it

 

Well lets hope that your picture isn't posted at all the bars on cruise ships as a potential thief. Because you just admitted that you would steal from the cruise ship.

[Kurbanfan]

The word "them" (that guest which purchased the card) says it all. It does not say "them" and whoever they would like to pass sodas out to.

"Them" in this case is singular not plural.

Some people are always looking for a way to beat the system...:(

 

 

The word "them" that you quoted refers to buying unlimited sodas not consuming them.

But you know that... you read it:p

I guess that's just another way to justify your theory:D

[Kurbanfan]

Yep.

 

Sheesh, people, if you can afford a cruise, surely you can afford a soda card. Just do what you know is right. Or, if you choose not to, don't try to convince yourself that it is.

 

Actually this has nothing to do with affording a cruise. You can bring your own soda on if ya want.:)

[urbabie2]

Well lets hope that your picture isn't posted at all the bars on cruise ships as a potential thief. Because you just admitted that you would steal from the cruise ship.

 

 

LOL ...:rolleyes:

 

I ,URBABIE2, would share my soda that i got with my soda card with my aquaintance if they wanted some.....

 

POST my picture that would be pretty cool lol-

 

uh oh i think the police are knocking at my door...

 

oh wait thats right its just my boyfriend.. who is a police officer.. whoopsss

[urbabie2]

Actually this has nothing to do with affording a cruise. You can bring your own soda on if ya want.:)

 

 

gmorning! =)

[fllady61]

but if your partner or friends goes and gets the drink for you, and hands it to you, that is not stealing. YOU got the soda. YOU signed for it, YOU carried it away. What you do with it once you sign for it is up to you.

 

 

I repeat myself since no one seemed to see this post.

 

If you think this is stealing, they what do you callMilking the Clock at work. I am sure many of you stay overtime when it is not necessary, or take unscheduled breraks and get paid for them. especially if you are one of these smokers who need a cig every 30 min in a no smoking area. That is stealing.

 

Or better yet, you go in the grocery, and grab a few grapes to taste them to see if you want to buy them. Is that not stealing?

 

I know this is off topic, but the topic is stealing on a soda card. But think about what you do in your daily life.

 

AFter the gas pump kicks off, do you not stand and hold the nozzle open a few seconds to get that last drop of gas? That is stealing.

 

Take a look into your own life before saying stealing is stealing.

 

SORRY IF I STEPPED ON ANYONE'S TOES, BUT YOU SAY MY DH AND I SHARING A SODA IS STEALING FROM THE CRUISE LINE, LOOK AT OTHER AREAS OF YOUR LIFE.

 

I AM SURE MANY OF YOU ARE SAYING TO YOURSELF, I NEVER LOOKED AT THAT THAT WAY.

[Desdemona01]

For all Carnival cruisers, I don't think you'll have to debate this for long. Thanks to the "it's not stealing" mentality, HAL has gone from unlimited soda stickers to 20-soda punch cards. With these cards they CAN be used for anyone because you're paying for a defined number of sodas. HAL did this because too many people were bragging, both on the ships and on these boards, about how they would buy one card and use it for the entire family. So, yes, this does have consequences. Since Carnival Corp. owns HAL I think the writing is on the wall for the other lines that they own...

 

Sipping from someone else's soda is so not the issue. It's those who say "once I get it I can do whatever I want with it, including giving it away" that caused it.

 

Enjoy your unlimited soda stickers while you can....

[smg669]

In fact all I have done at all is ask a few simple questions and well, ...do a little fishing! :-)

 

Being a troll (and then admitting to it freely) is stealing.

[VolzCruiser]

As for most things you can twist any situations in to what best serves your wants. In the end it is between you and your morals. There is nothing here that will make any change their minds as to whether cheating the soda card systems is stealing. I know that I go to bed every night with out having to worry about if I am stealing, cheating, or just not doing what is proper and I sleep quite soundly.

[nrdsb4]

Being a troll (and then admitting to it freely) is stealing.

 

 

Funny!:D

[nrdsb4]

As for most things you can twist any situations in to what best serves your wants. In the end it is between you and your morals. There is nothing here that will make any change their minds as to whether cheating the soda card systems is stealing. I know that I go to bed every night with out having to worry about if I am stealing, cheating, or just not doing what is proper and I sleep quite soundly.

 

Not even addressing the soda card issue here, just a general observation:

 

Dishonest people sleep quite soundly as well, because they don't view their actions as wrong. As long as they aren't committing "major offenses" (and each person probably defines that term differently) they are able to rationalize their behavior just fine and probably sleep better at night than you do.

[urbabie2]

EX:

when you bring your children to great adventure... and children under 3 and under get in free.... your child is now four but looks very young and they pass them for 3...

 

would you really say oh no!!!! hes 4 i must pay for him to get in???

 

im sorry but if this happens... i can save 60 bucks on getting a 4 year old into great adventure that he most likely will never remember is like a lucky day.....

 

then of course im very supersticious so i have to do a good deed along that day like donate money to BC =) Always do that

[Leo Jay]

People 'share' because they feel that soda cards are overpriced; soda cards are overpriced because Carnival anticipates a certain degree of sharing.

[want2cruiseagain]

My husband purchased the soda card, because he likes Diet Coke in the morning instead of coffee.

 

Usually I would drink water with my meals, he would have his soda. One day, I wanted a soda and I gave him my card and asked him to purchase me a soda on it. He went up to the guy serving drinks at the buffet and got his soda with his card and then he gave the guy my card and ordered me a soda. The guy told him not to worry and just used my husband's soda card for my soda.

 

So I think they really don't care whether you share or not.