arkansas travelor Posted September 14, 2017 #1 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I am planning a group cruise and a member of the group is a registered sex offender. I do not know exactly what his charges were, but I do know that it was more than 10 years ago. but my question is are registered sex offenders allowed to cruise carnival? I would like to know before I misinform this couple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted September 14, 2017 #2 Share Posted September 14, 2017 call Carnival & ask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6rugrats Posted September 14, 2017 #3 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) According to several blogs I've read and previous posts on CC, a registered sex offender will not be allowed to cruise Carnival. Even calling Carnival may not get you the correct answer. https://www.womenagainstregistry.org/Forum/Florida/4212229 https://www.my-diary.org/read/e/545227265 You can pull up lots of information by a simple google search. Edited September 14, 2017 by 6rugrats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincessE Posted September 14, 2017 #4 Share Posted September 14, 2017 If this person is a registered sex offender I am assuming (maybe incorrectly) that they are also a felon? Typically felon's are not allowed to obtain a passport. That may be the bigger issue - not if Carnival will allow this person, but if they can actually possess a passport. I am planning a group cruise and a member of the group is a registered sex offender. I do not know exactly what his charges were, but I do know that it was more than 10 years ago. but my question is are registered sex offenders allowed to cruise carnival? I would like to know before I misinform this couple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkansas travelor Posted September 14, 2017 Author #5 Share Posted September 14, 2017 For this particular cruise you don't need a passport you can use your birth certificate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky61 Posted September 14, 2017 #6 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Cruise ships do not have access to criminal records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted September 14, 2017 #7 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Cruise ships do not have access to criminal records. Maybe, maybe not - but if one of the ports is in Canada, I think he might have a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted September 14, 2017 #8 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Cruise ships do not have access to criminal records. maybe Homeland security do ?? Do they not have to send the passenger manifest to them before sailing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCLCrazy Posted September 14, 2017 #9 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Carnival does background checks. He will more than likely be stopped from getting on the ship. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1025cruise Posted September 14, 2017 #10 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I have heard that lines do run some basic checks on their guests based on the information provided to them. From this, I have heard that people with certain offenses, such as sex offender, are told they are not welcome to cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCLCrazy Posted September 14, 2017 #11 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Cruise ships do not have access to criminal records. They don't directly, but they hire 3rd party companies to do the checks for them. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPT Trips Posted September 14, 2017 #12 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Depending on the state's requirements, there may be other consequences to the individual on the registry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCLCrazy Posted September 14, 2017 #13 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Depending on the state's requirements, there may be other consequences to the individual on the registry. Yes, there might be probation terms that stop him from trying. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zqvol Posted September 14, 2017 #14 Share Posted September 14, 2017 If this person is a registered sex offender I am assuming (maybe incorrectly) that they are also a felon? Typically felon's are not allowed to obtain a passport. That may be the bigger issue - not if Carnival will allow this person, but if they can actually possess a passport. Where did you get this idea about passports. People who are on felony probation or parole may not be allowed to travel, but there is no prohibition against them having a passport, unless it is part of the terms of their probation or parole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkansas travelor Posted September 14, 2017 Author #15 Share Posted September 14, 2017 After checking with carnival the answer is no sex offenders are not allowed to cruise. This is a direct quote. Sexual Offenders From time to time, Carnival may receive advance notice that a guest is a sexual offender. If you should become aware of this information, please contact Guest Services so they can alert our Security Service department. Sexual offenders are not allowed to sail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky61 Posted September 14, 2017 #16 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Maybe, maybe not - but if one of the ports is in Canada, I think he might have a problem. He might have a problem if he is entered into NCIC. But cruise ship do not have access to NCIC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky61 Posted September 14, 2017 #17 Share Posted September 14, 2017 They don't directly, but they hire 3rd party companies to do the checks for them. Sent from my iPhone using Forums I don't know what 3rd parties you are referring to, but access to NCIC is severely limited. And no, cruise ships do not conduct criminal backgrounds on their passengers. Plus if they did have access, can you imaging a cruise ship with 4,000 passengers trying to access NCIC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky61 Posted September 14, 2017 #18 Share Posted September 14, 2017 maybe Homeland security do ??Do they not have to send the passenger manifest to them before sailing? CBP checks the manifest for warrants, not criminal records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCLCrazy Posted September 15, 2017 #19 Share Posted September 15, 2017 (edited) I don't know what 3rd parties you are referring to, but access to NCIC is severely limited. And no, cruise ships do not conduct criminal backgrounds on their passengers. Plus if they did have access, can you imaging a cruise ship with 4,000 passengers trying to access NCIC? My husband is a detective in the sex offenders unit with our county. He has had to call Carnival to notify them that an offender will be boarding their ship. The company was very upset that their 3rd party research company did not catch it. He was not allowed to board in the end. So yes, they do check at least the sex offender lists. I'm not saying they do BG checks on all crimes, just ones involving children. Could be done through FDLE if they live in Florida, not NCIC. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Edited September 15, 2017 by DCLCrazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted September 15, 2017 #20 Share Posted September 15, 2017 My husband is a detective in the sex offenders unit with our county. He has had to call Carnival to notify them that an offender will be boarding their ship. The company was very upset that their 3rd party research company did not catch it. He was not allowed to bore in the end. So yes, they do check at least the sex offender lists. I'm not saying they do BG checks on all crimes, just ones involving children. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Not all registered sex offenders have a crime against children. But I do agree that since registries are public information, there are companies that can do nationwide searches for anyone on the registries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCLCrazy Posted September 15, 2017 #21 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Not all registered sex offenders have a crime against children. But I do agree that since registries are public information, there are companies that can do nationwide searches for anyone on the registries. That's exactly correct. Anyone can go to their states/county's law enforcement website and research it. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampbabe Posted September 15, 2017 #22 Share Posted September 15, 2017 If you try to buy a Disney annual pass and are a sex offender the system will pick it up and they will refund your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky61 Posted September 15, 2017 #23 Share Posted September 15, 2017 That's exactly correct. Anyone can go to their states/county's law enforcement website and research it. Sent from my iPhone using Forums That is not correct for most states. The public does not have access to California criminal records. It would quite a chore for a cruise line to check the states for all of their passengers. Nice to hear that your spouse is a detective in the sex offender unit. I am retired LE with 30 plus years in Los Angeles. But tell me, how does your spouse know when a sex offender is taking a cruise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky61 Posted September 15, 2017 #24 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Not all registered sex offenders have a crime against children. But I do agree that since registries are public information, there are companies that can do nationwide searches for anyone on the registries. You are correct that not all sex offenders involve crimes against children. The only way to do a nationwide search for anyone with a criminal record would be through NCIC, and neither the public or private companies have access to NCIC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCLCrazy Posted September 15, 2017 #25 Share Posted September 15, 2017 That is not correct for most states. The public does not have access to California criminal records. It would quite a chore for a cruise line to check the states for all of their passengers. Nice to hear that your spouse is a detective in the sex offender unit. I am retired LE with 30 plus years in Los Angeles. But tell me, how does your spouse know when a sex offender is taking a cruise? They tell him. There's a law in our county that says SO LEOs have to check up on them once a quarter. He forms appropriate relationships with them so they build trust with him and he doesn't have to struggle later if he needs them to turn themselves in. They will literally meet him at the jail to surrender without him having to cuff them. Blows my mind! you're right about the state by state stuff. I once worked for an adoption agency. I had to file BG checks on every state the parents lived in. GA didn't even have one till 2013! [emoji44] why would you not have a registry for sex offenders?? Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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