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Just back from Silhouette 12-night Caribbean cruise where the dress code applied only to the MDR. Made for a strange mix everywhere other than in the MDR as pax around the ship were dressed in everything from tuxedos and cocktail dresses to shorts, tees and flip-flops. I don't care what others choose to wear but I have to admit that in many cases the "anything goes" attitude fell short of even casual attire and the onboard ambiance that formal nights used to take on was, in part, lost. Not sure I like the mix and at this point, think I'd prefer X do away with formal altogether rather than go the "a little bit of this, a little bit of that" route. Just an observation.

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Just back from Silhouette 12-night Caribbean cruise where the dress code applied only to the MDR. Made for a strange mix everywhere other than in the MDR as pax around the ship were dressed in everything from tuxedos and cocktail dresses to shorts, tees and flip-flops. I don't care what others choose to wear but I have to admit that in many cases the "anything goes" attitude fell short of even casual attire and the onboard ambiance that formal nights used to take on was, in part, lost. Not sure I like the mix and at this point, think I'd prefer X do away with formal altogether rather than go the "a little bit of this, a little bit of that" route. Just an observation.

 

I have seen many people post here that they like to dress formal but don't care if someone else does. Your experience proves the point that I always like to make. Sure one or two people not following rules is no big deal. But at what point does it ruin your formal experience. I think you may have found the point!

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I have seen many people post here that they like to dress formal but don't care if someone else does. Your experience proves the point that I always like to make. Sure one or two people not following rules is no big deal. But at what point does it ruin your formal experience. I think you may have found the point!

 

Lots and lots of cruises under our belt and we've always enjoyed formal nights. While the odd mix of attire didn't ruin what you refer to as our formal experience, it did make us wonder, "Why bother?" IMHO, this is one instance when half a loaf is not necessarily better than none. It's time for X to get off the fence and make a decision on this one.

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think I'd prefer X do away with formal altogether rather than go the "a little bit of this, a little bit of that" route.

 

This is an intelligent comment.

 

It is clear that in order to accomodate the vast majority of people who cruise, and attract the far larger population who has never cruised, that the major lines are slowly moving away from formal dress requirements. It is clear that consumer demand is driving this trend - witness how Celebrity no longer requires 'formal' dress in the specialty restarants - venues where customers willingly pay for the privilege of packing light and dressing comfortably.

 

There are a few die-hards who express their outrage at this reality, lament the collapse of Western Civilization, and hurl invective and verbal abuse at those who prefer a more casual and relaxed cruising experience. Fortunately for most of us, this will not slow down the movement to comfortable and casual.

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Lots and lots of cruises under our belt and we've always enjoyed formal nights. While the odd mix of attire didn't ruin what you refer to as our formal experience, it did make us wonder, "Why bother?" IMHO, this is one instance when half a loaf is not necessarily better than none. It's time for X to get off the fence and make a decision on this one.

 

I would prefer them to enforce guidelines. There really is no place for shorts, tees and flip flops, etc. on a Celebrity Cruise ship at nights. These do no even fit the definition of smart casual. By the way I always complain to the Maitre D if I see someone in shorts or other sloppy clothes in the MDR. On several occasions, he did ask the individual to leave. Maybe if more people complained, Celebrity would enforce the guidelines.

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This is an intelligent comment.

 

It is clear that in order to accomodate the vast majority of people who cruise, and attract the far larger population who has never cruised, that the major lines are slowly moving away from formal dress requirements. It is clear that consumer demand is driving this trend - witness how Celebrity no longer requires 'formal' dress in the specialty restarants - venues where customers willingly pay for the privilege of packing light and dressing comfortably.

 

There are a few die-hards who express their outrage at this reality, lament the collapse of Western Civilization, and hurl invective and verbal abuse at those who prefer a more casual and relaxed cruising experience. Fortunately for most of us, this will not slow down the movement to comfortable and casual.

 

Be careful what you wish for. If short-shorts, a hoodie and flip-flops/a bathing suit, tee-shirt and sneakers already meets some pax' standards of appropriate casual attire on what is otherwise designated a formal night, I shudder to think what the official dumbing down of the dress code to eliminate formal nights altogether will bring with it. Evening dress code? Shoes and shirt required. Please shower off sand and suntan lotion before entering the MDR. A bit of a stretch? Agreed - but then I never thought I'd find myself sitting next to a couple in the Celebrity Theater dressed as described above on formal night either.

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There are a few die-hards who express their outrage at this reality, lament the collapse of Western Civilization, and hurl invective and verbal abuse at those who prefer a more casual and relaxed cruising experience. Fortunately for most of us, this will not slow down the movement to comfortable and casual.

 

Point well taken. Let those who want to dress in the true formal sense of the word continue to do so as they wish. Let those who want to dress more casually do so. People should be allowed to make choices. And some us want to continue to choose to dine in the MDR without being told that if we are not dressed to standards, we should choose the Lido or room service or another cruise line.

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I would prefer them to enforce guidelines. There really is no place for shorts, tees and flip flops, etc. on a Celebrity Cruise ship at nights.

 

Perhaps you should check the various threads and the web site. The only place the dress code is to be enforced is in the restaurants and the theater.Formal is only applicable to the Main Dining room on formal nights, nowhere else on the ship. A couple of years ago Celebrity eliminated the dress code requirement throughout the ship after 6:00P.M. Shorts, tees and flip flops are permitted in the lounges and the casino...You may express your opinion of course but they are not what the current rules are...

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Point well taken. Let those who want to dress in the true formal sense of the word continue to do so as they wish. Let those who want to dress more casually do so. People should be allowed to make choices. And some us want to continue to choose to dine in the MDR without being told that if we are not dressed to standards, we should choose the Lido or room service or another cruise line.

 

You hit the nail on the head there Tip - it's about choice. If people want to dress up in tuxes and dinner coats nobody has a problem with that.

 

Maybe we would all be better off if people paid more attention to the quality of a person - their personality, their sense of humor, their integrity, their soul - instead of focusing on how they dress. As people and society gradually becomes more enlightened, perhaps we'll get closer to that point, in time.

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Maybe we would all be better off if people paid more attention to the quality of a person - their personality, their sense of humor, their integrity, their soul - instead of focusing on how they dress. As people and society gradually becomes more enlightened, perhaps we'll get closer to that point, in time.

 

You are right on target. Most people have figured it out by the time they have graduated from high school.;)

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What a shame when most cruisers like the 'special' restaurants including Blue, that the men can't show some respect to the ladies.

One jacket for the men equals many outfits that the ladies always pack.

I don't understand how a man wearing a jacket is a show of respect for a lady.

 

I feel sorry sometimes when men have to keep their jackets on and it's hot; while women can be cooler in their flowy dresses with or without sleeves.

 

Likewise, I feel sorry when I see women wearing their skimpy dresses in a cool place and the men are comfortable in the layers of their shirt and coat.

 

But how does jacket equal respect? That almost implies that a man cannot show respect if he's got no coat. Respect shows esteem for another; or maybe deferring to the needs of another. My husband wearing a jacket doesn't really fill any need of mine... unless I get into one of those skimpy dresses and it's a cold room and I need to wear his coat to keep warm. Is that what you mean?

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Maybe we would all be better off if people paid more attention to the quality of a person - their personality, their sense of humor, their integrity, their soul - instead of focusing on how they dress. As people and society gradually becomes more enlightened, perhaps we'll get closer to that point, in time.

 

When I see someone in the MDR wearing shorts, polo shirts or flip flops, it tells me all I need to know about their quality, personality, integrity and their soul that I need to know. They are very special people who can do whatever they want. Rules and guidelines do not apply to them. We really need more people like this in the world!

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When I see someone in the MDR wearing shorts, polo shirts or flip flops, it tells me all I need to know about their quality, personality, integrity and their soul that I need to know. They are very special people who can do whatever they want. Rules and guidelines do not apply to them. We really need more people like this in the world!

 

How can you make an assumption like that, it really tells a lot about you...How do you know what the circumstances are and why they may be in shorts. A gentleman next to us on a cruise had his luggage lost, they did not get it the entire week. He was a large gentleman and they did not have clothes on board to fit him. He took it with a sense of humor and had a great time. Says a lot about that man which I can't say about your post..

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How can you make an assumption like that, it really tells a lot about you...How do you know what the circumstances are and why they may be in shorts. A gentleman next to us on a cruise had his luggage lost, they did not get it the entire week. He was a large gentleman and they did not have clothes on board to fit him. He took it with a sense of humor and had a great time. Says a lot about that man which I can't say about your post..

 

I am sure everyone in the MDR dressed like a slob lost their luggage. You know exactly the people I am referring to - the 99% who just take the attitude "I's my vacation and I will do whatever i want. I don't care what others think"!

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I am sure everyone in the MDR dressed like a slob lost their luggage. You know exactly the people I am referring to - the 99% who just take the attitude "I's my vacation and I will do whatever i want. I don't care what others think"!

 

Actually I don't know who you are talking about because I don't know the circumstances. I'm not saying anything else because it would be in violation of the guidelines....

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There is really no basis for having dress code discussions. The cruise line has guidelines which all are expected to follow. There are alternatives to the MDR if you do not like the guidelines, but the alternative is not to wear whatever you want. If you think they should change the guidelines, then you should write to Celebrity to make your point, but until they are changed everyone is obliged to follow the guidelines. Note that most discussions revolve around people not observing formal guidelines. IMHO, the problems are just as bad or maybe even worse on casual nights.

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There is really no basis for having dress code discussions. The cruise line has guidelines which all are expected to follow. There are alternatives to the MDR if you do not like the guidelines, but the alternative is not to wear whatever you want. If you think they should change the guidelines, then you should write to Celebrity to make your point, but until they are changed everyone is obliged to follow the guidelines. Note that most discussions revolve around people not observing formal guidelines. IMHO, the problems are just as bad or maybe even worse on casual nights.

 

You make no sense. The poster on the previous page followed the guidelines in Blu and you suggested he sail Carnival. Make up your freaking mind!

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