Fire on Carnival Triumph. No engines, running on emergency generators.

[truecruiser]

NTSB will join investigation and are launching a probe into the cause of the fire.

 

Medical personnel will be waiting for the ship in Mobile.

[ducklite]

You are partly correct. Those who had flights the next day or two were provided with lodging here in San Diego. They did not require clothing as their luggage was delivered to them on the pier.

 

Four day cruise now extended to eight days--just how much clean clothing do you think is in those suitcases?

[ducklite]

Moot since he likely hasn't seen the inside of his cabin for a couple of days.

 

I doubt that. I'm sure he's gotten some sleep.

[sanmarcosman]

Porta-Showers? That would be enough to set even the most level headed person off.

 

CCL needs to have high quality hotel rooms for each cabin ready and waiting. No Motel 6/Days Inn/Red Roof/best Value type of crap, but Hilton, Marriott, Renaissance, etc. At the lowest end they should have Hilton Garden Inn, Holiday Inn, etc.

 

But they're going to Mobile, Alabama!

[Gypsywych]

CNN is reporting that investigators from the NTSB and the USCG will be meeting the ship in Mobile to begin an investigation into the fire.

[ducklite]

I find it hilarious that the press conference is going to basically be at the same time as the "State of the Union"

 

I'm sure most of the networks will choose this story over that!

 

I have no doubt that was the intention.

[jonbgd]

Porta-Showers? That would be enough to set even the most level headed person off.

 

CCL needs to have high quality hotel rooms for each cabin ready and waiting. No Motel 6/Days Inn/Red Roof/best Value type of crap, but Hilton, Marriott, Renaissance, etc. At the lowest end they should have Hilton Garden Inn, Holiday Inn, etc.

I think any hotel is better than what they are on currently..:rolleyes:

 

Besides doesnt everyone consider Carnival the budget cruiseline:eek:

[tallyho8]

For those who keep saying they should remove the passengers by lifeboat, need I remind you that 5 people were killed this week in a lifeboat being lowered in a drill while in a port in calm water with all power fully functioning.

 

Lowering lifeboats in a ship on the high seas that has no power and no stabilization would be many times more dangerous than the drill was and expose passengers to untold risks. Using the Triumph as a lifeboat and towing it to Mobile is the ONLY safe option and those who think they know better should reconsider their foolishness.

 

And yes, since Carnival corp has 99 ships the odds are that they will have more mishaps than a cruise line with only 6 or 8 ships.

[broberts]

NTSB will join investigation and are launching a probe into the cause of the fire.

 

Medical personnel will be waiting for the ship in Mobile.

 

Excellent news. The NTSB press release can be found at http://www.ntsb.gov/news/2013/130212b.html

[Half Pint]

I doubt that. I'm sure he's gotten some sleep.

 

I hope he has, too. Not only for the passengers and crew's safety, but also for his own well-being.

[ducklite]

NTSB will join investigation and are launching a probe into the cause of the fire.

 

Medical personnel will be waiting for the ship in Mobile.

 

Good news on both fronts if it's accurate. Source, please.

 

Nevermind, saw the links.

[yogimax]

If we were in Japan, Arison and Frank would have immediately resigned!

 

CEOs and COOs of Japanese corporations take responsibility, they don't make excuses!

[waiting4acruise]

Four day cruise now extended to eight days--just how much clean clothing do you think is in those suitcases?

And no free laundry for Platinum and Diamond members.

[ducklite]

But they're going to Mobile, Alabama!

 

What's your point?

[Aquahound]

Good news on both fronts if it's accurate. Source, please.

 

I don't know first hand about NTSB, but I do know the USCG is lined up to begin their investigation. Just like Splendor, they will be conducting a full and thorough investigation.

[MrPete]

Came back into port on it's own power ~36 hours late.

 

Is that it? How is that even on the same playing field?

[jimbo5544]

If we were in Japan, Arison and Frank would have immediately resigned!

 

CEOs and COOs of Japanese corporations take responsibility, they don't make excuses!

ummmm who is Frank?

[ducklite]

For those who keep saying they should remove the passengers by lifeboat, need I remind you that 5 people were killed this week in a lifeboat being lowered in a drill while in a port in calm water with all power fully functioning.

 

Lowering lifeboats in a ship on the high seas that has no power and no stabilization would be many times more dangerous than the drill was and expose passengers to untold risks. Using the Triumph as a lifeboat and towing it to Mobile is the ONLY safe option and those who think they know better should reconsider their foolishness.

 

And yes, since Carnival corp has 99 ships the odds are that they will have more mishaps than a cruise line with only 6 or 8 ships.

 

You don't have to lower the lifeboats full. Lower the lifeboats and then open one of the doors near the water line to allow people to board.

[jonbgd]

If we were in Japan, Arison and Frank would have immediately resigned!

 

CEOs and COOs of Japanese corporations take responsibility, they don't make excuses!

True

But If we were in Japan I would be having Sushi tonight for dinner and not leftovers:eek::D

[Knuclehead]

They say they will have a live report on the worsening conditions . Live from where? :cool::cool: They have been plugging it for two hours .OOOPPS was that a "Potty" reference? I guess it depends where you put the plug .:eek::eek:

[jimbo5544]

They say they will have a live report on the worsening conditions . Live from where ?:cool::cool:

Their studios....

[waiting4acruise]

They say they will have a live report on the worsening conditions . Live from where? :cool::cool: They have been plugging it for two hours .OOOPPS was that a "Potty" reference? I guess it depends where you put the plug .:eek::eek:

From yesterday.

[cruisinfanatic]

I have no doubt that was the intention.

Except it's not true

[OKCruiseMan]

Ummm, passengers can be safely transferred at sea to another vessel:

 

"By 1974 the cruising business had expanded and the QE2 was operating profitably. On 1 April that year, whilst on a cruise from New York to San Juan, a technical fault caused the propulsion machinery to shut down. The ship was disabled and it was not until 3 April that the Sea Venture, a Flagship Cruises vessel, arrived to assist. The passengers were transferred and tugs were hired to tow the QE2 back to Bermuda. Subsequent repairs meant that the Easter cruise had to be cancelled.'

 

I was on the QE2 for that adventure. The transfer took all day as the QE2 didn't have the power to lower her lifeboats and they had to use the smaller ones from the Sea Venture.

 

The decision to tranfer the passengers was due to the gravity of the situation...the exact same situation that is now occuring on Truimph. The greatest danger is not the cold food/lack of food or the sanitary conditions...the greatest danger is FIRE.

 

Interesting story. I'm sure a transfer does have its risks, but as you indicate, there may be more risk than people realize in the existing situation. That is an unknown.

 

Seems as ships were designed and built the size they are today, more thought would have been put into what could be done in these situations. Though I know there is risk to transfer people between ships in the open sea, surely there could have been design options to minimize this risk. If you build a ship that can hold 3,000+ people, you should be responsible to design it such that emergency situations are better handled. Seems the only option is to use a lifeboat, and the Concordia showed the many flaws with that option. I don't claim to have an answer, but it doesn't appear as though those designing these giants tried too hard to come up with one either.

[truecruiser]

Excellent news. The NTSB press release can be found at http://www.ntsb.gov/news/2013/130212b.html

 

Thanks for posting this. :)

 

Good news on both fronts if it's accurate. Source, please.

 

Nevermind, saw the links.

 

yes. Statement is in link above. CNN reported the statement was issued, as well as the medical personnel.

 

Quick Request to Anyone?? (I haveta sign off) -- can anyone tell me where and when (time and network) Gerry will be giving the "State of Carnival Address?"

I'd like to DVR it.

 

He should get his butt to Mobile to give it, IMO.