Sitzmark Posted May 11, 2014 #101 Share Posted May 11, 2014 My husband said we should come to eat in the MDR in formal wear with a snorkel and flippers on. :-) I plan to dress in decent comfortable clothes. If someone complains, then in the interest of keeping the peace and being non-confrontational, rather than argue, I shall remove them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare graphicguy Posted May 12, 2014 #102 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Why is there a dress code if it is just a suggesting that is not enforced, I have not sailed on RCCL in 5 years before last week , is this new? Because RCCL calls them "suggestions". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJcruisenewbie Posted May 12, 2014 #103 Share Posted May 12, 2014 (edited) IMO, as long as someone is neat and clean with everything appropriately covered I don't care what anyone else wears in the MDR. Now men in speedos who aren't Olympic swimmers and muffin topped women in bikinis at the pool are a whole other story. Edited May 12, 2014 by NJcruisenewbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribbean sailor Posted May 12, 2014 #104 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Not EVEN going to wade into the dress code arguments again. But I have to note - a suite is a large cabin on the ship or a matching set of furniture, not something you wear to dinner, that's a suit and they're pronounced differently too! Sent from my Galaxy S4 via Tapatalk Low blow MR PERFECT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted May 12, 2014 #105 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Just got off a weekend cruise. Weekend cruises from Miami have a WAY younger crowd than 7+ day cruises. Only 53 Diamond members, less D+, and no Pinnacle onboard. A lot of local (young couples, young families). Also, a lot of South Americans onboard. And a bunch of new cruisers. These are the new yuppies; dual income, under 40, good jobs, looking for a break from work. Not a lot of teenagers onboard, more younger kids though. We saw a lot of nicely dressed people. No one was dressed in an inappropriate manner as far as I could see. Lots of cocktail/sundresses for ladies. White or Tan Slacks, clean upscale jeans (not Hank Hill jeans), button up long and short sleeve shirts/polos/resort weak silk shirts on men. People looked comfortable and "put together". I counted 3 Tuxedos on formal night and don't recall seeing any suits or men with ties otherwise, although I am sure I did not see every guest onboard either. No eye sores. No slobs. No cargo short/do what I want stuff (that I saw) I am sure some people in this thread would have had a heart attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George C Posted May 12, 2014 Author #106 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Every year I see fewer Tux's on formal and I would not even wear one on a short cruise, I think most of the people that do not dress up just are not used to going to upscale resturants, not that MDR is that upscale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgmizzou Posted May 12, 2014 #107 Share Posted May 12, 2014 I don't think the Tommy Bahama shirts were ever in style. ;) Really?? ;) - I don't think Nordstrom would agree with you since they sell quite a few of these and carry quite an extensive line of TB wear. Pretty high priced retail space dedicated to something that has never been in style. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted May 12, 2014 #108 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Every year I see fewer Tux's on formal and I would not even wear one on a short cruise, I think most of the people that do not dress up just are not used to going to upscale resturants, not that MDR is that upscale. I think that's a preposterous assumption especially for people in areas like Miami and Fort Lauderdale, chock full of $$$$ and tons and tons of upscale restaurants that cost $$$$ too. I think when it's 88 degrees outside and you want to have a nice evening out you're going to dress for comfort and style, not to look like you are going to a business meeting or a wedding. People just don't want to do it that much on vacation anymore. I don't for a second assume that they simply don't know better. You're right, the MDR isn't that upscale. Why should I wear a tie? I am not serving the food, I am supposed to be the one enjoying the comfort, service, and break from real life with my partner, my family, or newly made friends. How would Jimmy Buffett feel about ties in the Caribbean? :D But yes, I concede, a 15 night T/A or a European cruise is going to get a different crowd and a different vibe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitzmark Posted May 12, 2014 #109 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Every year I see fewer Tux's on formal and I would not even wear one on a short cruise, I think most of the people that do not dress up just are not used to going to upscale resturants, not that MDR is that upscale. The only time I ever see a tux is at a wedding or if you happen to go out to eat when the schools are having Prom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George C Posted May 12, 2014 Author #110 Share Posted May 12, 2014 The only time I ever see a tux is at a wedding or if you happen to go out to eat when the schools are having Prom. I guess some of us sometimes get invited to black tie gala’s and other do not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George C Posted May 12, 2014 Author #111 Share Posted May 12, 2014 I think that's a preposterous assumption especially for people in areas like Miami and Fort Lauderdale, chock full of $$$$ and tons and tons of upscale restaurants that cost $$$$ too. I think when it's 88 degrees outside and you want to have a nice evening out you're going to dress for comfort and style, not to look like you are going to a business meeting or a wedding. People just don't want to do it that much on vacation anymore. I don't for a second assume that they simply don't know better. You're right, the MDR isn't that upscale. Why should I wear a tie? I am not serving the food, I am supposed to be the one enjoying the comfort, service, and break from real life with my partner, my family, or newly made friends. How would Jimmy Buffett feel about ties in the Caribbean? :D But yes, I concede, a 15 night T/A or a European cruise is going to get a different crowd and a different vibe. From what that poster said, the people from Miami dressed fine for there cruise, Dallas get to be over 100 in the summer and I would never wear a jacket, but would not wear a t-shirt also. I did where one of my Jimmy Buffet shirts to dinner that had a collar . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaGuy44 Posted May 12, 2014 #112 Share Posted May 12, 2014 I guess some of us sometimes get invited to black tie gala’s and other do not And yet with all your culture and sophistication you never learned not to use apostrophes to pluralize words. :( You were talking about upscale restaurants not state dinners. Bottom line if you want a strictly enforced formal dress code Royal Caribbean is not the cruise line for you. I would look into Cunard or Regent, I hear they are far more formal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted May 12, 2014 #113 Share Posted May 12, 2014 I guess some of us sometimes get invited to black tie gala’s and other do not When I go to black tie gala events the invitation usually specifies they are black tie events. Pretty simple to understand. They are usually held in support of significant endowment for a philanthropic causes, in my experiences anyways, and as such are a celebration of actual achievements related to arts, sciences, and other scholastic endeavors. So...not a cruise vacation. Let's not pretend the cruise vacation is that significant. Or that one guest's money in fare allows them to dictate to another guest (whose money has also paid fare for the same service) what they must wear or where they must dine. The distinction between those two disparate events could not be more clear to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitzmark Posted May 12, 2014 #114 Share Posted May 12, 2014 i guess some of us sometimes get invited to black tie gala’s and other do not rofl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George C Posted May 12, 2014 Author #115 Share Posted May 12, 2014 When I go to black tie gala events the invitation usually specifies they are black tie events. Pretty simple to understand. They are usually held in support of significant endowment for a philanthropic causes, in my experiences anyways, and as such are a celebration of actual achievements related to arts, sciences, and other scholastic endeavors. So...not a cruise vacation. Let's not pretend the cruise vacation is that significant. Or that one guest's money in fare allows them to dictate to another guest (whose money has also paid fare for the same service) what they must wear or where they must dine. The distinction between those two disparate events could not be more clear to me. I agree on your comment on black tie, I never suggested that anyone should wear a Tux, I was just commenting about “never seeing a Tux outside of a wedding or prom” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted May 12, 2014 #116 Share Posted May 12, 2014 I agree on your comment on black tie, I never suggested that anyone should wear a Tux, I was just commenting about “never seeing a Tux outside of a wedding or prom” That's fair enough. But I think we can agree that formal dress is becoming less and less prevalent in society. I would never tell someone not to dress in a tuxedo or suit on a ship though. If that is what they enjoy, by all means enjoy it, and dine in whichever particular venue you feel like while doing so. It seems the tux and suit wearers are the discriminatory crowd. You never hear anyone tell suit and tux wearers NOT to do so. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted May 12, 2014 #117 Share Posted May 12, 2014 (edited) And yet with all your culture and sophistication you never learned not to use apostrophes to pluralize words. :( You were talking about upscale restaurants not state dinners. Bottom line if you want a strictly enforced formal dress code Royal Caribbean is not the cruise line for you. I would look into Cunard or Regent, I hear they are far more formal. And that is truly the bottom line. People posting on these dress code threads know exactly how RCI runs its ships in regard to this subject. If it means that much to some people, and they are that unhappy about it, there really is a cruise line that can accomodate their desires. RCI's policies on this issue, and many other issues for that matter, seem to suit many people just fine. So for those who want to play James Bond on vacation please go for it. Just keep in mind that RCI is not going to require its other paying passengers to be part of your fantasy. Edited May 12, 2014 by Ocean Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonV1 Posted May 12, 2014 #118 Share Posted May 12, 2014 This is as much part of the switch to mass market as it is generally changing dress codes. Cruising is fairly mainstream at this point (lots more cabins these days than 15 years ago), and that is reflected in everything from the boat design (lots more public areas + "attractions"), to activities on-board (less reason to get off the boat), to the "average" dinner attire (simpler to pack , etc). The Quantum class boats take the idea even further with the dedicated "formal" restaurant, which is nice if you like the food theme and the desire to dress up. The more cabins there are, the more pressure there is to keep them filled, the wider audience the lines will try to attract. They can't make the boat all things to all people, but they will try within reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaGuy44 Posted May 12, 2014 #119 Share Posted May 12, 2014 This is as much part of the switch to mass market as it is generally changing dress codes. Cruising is fairly mainstream at this point (lots more cabins these days than 15 years ago), and that is reflected in everything from the boat design (lots more public areas + "attractions"), to activities on-board (less reason to get off the boat), to the "average" dinner attire (simpler to pack , etc). The Quantum class boats take the idea even further with the dedicated "formal" restaurant, which is nice if you like the food theme and the desire to dress up. The more cabins there are, the more pressure there is to keep them filled, the wider audience the lines will try to attract. They can't make the boat all things to all people, but they will try within reason. Agree 100%, well stated. And with airlines getting more and more aggressive with luggage restrictions and fees, people will be increasingly less likely to want to pack formal clothes. In the days when people traveled with giant steamer trunks, formal dress was a little more practical I'm guessing ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dz9yvr Posted May 12, 2014 #120 Share Posted May 12, 2014 ..... People posting on these dress code threads know exactly how RCI runs its ships in regard to this subject. ...... So for those who want to play James Bond on vacation please go for it. Just keep in mind that RCI is not going to require its other paying passengers to be part of your fantasy. Perfectly stated. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrobo Posted May 12, 2014 #121 Share Posted May 12, 2014 And that is truly the bottom line. People posting on these dress code threads know exactly how RCI runs its ships in regard to this subject. If it means that much to some people, and they are that unhappy about it, there really is a cruise line that can accomodate their desires. RCI's policies on this issue, and many other issues for that matter, seem to suit many people just fine. So for those who want to play James Bond on vacation please go for it. Just keep in mind that RCI is not going to require its other paying passengers to be part of your fantasy. Something of an arrogant post. Why should someone who wants to follow the suggested rules be ridiculed in such a manner, James Bond indeed. I do not believe anyone deserves such derogatory remarks no matter how they choose to dress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted May 12, 2014 #122 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Something of an arrogant post. Why should someone who wants to follow the suggested rules be ridiculed in such a manner, James Bond indeed. I do not believe anyone deserves such derogatory remarks no matter how they choose to dress. They are either suggestions, or rules, but can not be both. Therefore they are suggestions and anyone who wants to "follow them" is free to do so, and I have never seen anyone talk down to anyone that wants to dress up. Calling someone James Bond is hardly an insult; it's pretty much accepted slang for dressing sharply in a suit or tuxedo. People get called some vile, nasty things for not dressing up like James Bond though. I am glad to see you do not condone that sort of junk either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beshears Posted May 12, 2014 #123 Share Posted May 12, 2014 I agree with dress how ever you feel in the "main" dining room, providing it is not shorts and flip-flops. You should be able to wear those in the buffet area, or the "my time" dining area. As for us, we DO dress up more than most people in the main dining room, and always get compliments when dressing this way, but we do not dress to the 9's like we would on formal night. No one at our table seems to be offended by the way we dress. If anything they are normally complimented us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beshears Posted May 12, 2014 #124 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Elvis, we'll join you, as we'll "recognize" you, and I'm sure you will recognize us when were all dressed "about" the same. My theory is this, if they can put out nice linen table cloths/napkins, and dinner ware, I can "dress up" some for the occasion.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linkerbink Posted May 12, 2014 #125 Share Posted May 12, 2014 It's threads like this one that help pass all those days until my next cruise!:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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