buffetking Posted July 21, 2014 #1 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I'm booked on the Eclipse for a Baltic cruise next year. In light of recent events; passenger plane shot down, I'm thinking of canceling. I'm not concerned about passenger safety. I'm just unsure if I want to help support irresponsible countries. Am I silly? What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLH Arizona Posted July 21, 2014 #2 Share Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) No, you are not silly. We all have our own beliefs and conscience and no one should think that you are silly because of those you follow. Saying that, you are the only one that can or should make up your mind to cruise or not to cruise on the itinerary. Sorry, this might not be of much help, but I'm a strong believer in that we are the only one that should decide what course we follow. Good luck in whatever you decide to do. Edited July 21, 2014 by NLH Arizona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisestitch Posted July 21, 2014 #3 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Not silly at all. Sincerely held beliefs that lead to action are signs of strength not silliness. Watch the situation for a couple if months and make plans for an alternate vacation just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daff01 Posted July 21, 2014 #4 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I just wish more people thought like yourself. My conscience just wouldn't allow me to even consider going anywhere near Russian ports. Even before the latest outrage, the invasion of Eastern Ukraine and Putins abysmal human rights record is more than enough to boycott! I just hope the Cruise companies themselves consider their position now! Sent using the Cruise Critic forums app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evitacruiser Posted July 21, 2014 #5 Share Posted July 21, 2014 We are booked to go shortly and this has put a real dampener on the trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hcat Posted July 21, 2014 #6 Share Posted July 21, 2014 OP has time to transfer booking to another itin...to safer area and consistent with OP's other concerns...that's what we would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Airbalancer Posted July 21, 2014 #7 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Is there many Russian ports ? I would stay on board in the Russian ports if I had concerns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted July 21, 2014 #8 Share Posted July 21, 2014 You could still go and just stay on the ship in SP. It is the only Russian port on Baltic cruises. Seems a shame to punish all the countries when only one is responsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary El Posted July 21, 2014 #9 Share Posted July 21, 2014 We are doing a cruise next year, transpacific, where one of the stops in Petropavlovsk. I have no intention of getting off the ship. I agree with the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosoxI Posted July 21, 2014 #10 Share Posted July 21, 2014 The OP has already said it's NOT a safety issue. I wouldn't go, just to make the political statement. Mexico won't see me again, either. Good for the OP who is definitely not being silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newgrange Posted July 21, 2014 #11 Share Posted July 21, 2014 There are very few places anyone could go if we started taking a stance against everything a stance could be taken against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynbar Posted July 21, 2014 #12 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I also wouldn't go, in light of the way Russia is behaving in recent days and weeks. St. Petersburg is really the crown jewell of the Baltics itinerary, doesn't make much sense to do the cruise but stay on the ship. Plus, the port taxes will go to Russia. Personally, since the OP still has time to cancel, I would pick another itinerary for this year and save Russia until they come to their senses (assuming that happens, of course.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Frances Posted July 21, 2014 #13 Share Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) You could still go and just stay on the ship in SP. It is the only Russian port on Baltic cruises. Seems a shame to punish all the countries when only one is responsible. I would not miss going ashore in spectacular SP and if you stayed on board to "punish" the Russian Govt, they wouldn't even notice. I don't see how paying a few dollars to a local tour guide is "supporting" a government. We have travelled to quite a few countries that we don't agree with their govt/politics but we totally enjoyed our visit. It's a bit of " cut off your nose". I know other people feel different. Sent from my iPad using Forums mobile app Edited July 21, 2014 by Christine Frances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esprit Posted July 21, 2014 #14 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Interesting thread, and I'm not getting involved in any political, gay rights or any other point of view.We did the Baltics summer 2013 on the Eclipse Fact 1. The Baltics cruises usually, if not always, includes St Petersburg which setting aside and political arguments is an amazing place to visit. Extremely busy due to the large numbers of cruise ships, but amazing nonetheless Fact 2. Geographically speaking, the Baltics cruise is thousands of miles from the Ukraine, or anywhere else where there is actually anything going on. Fact 3. If you stop travelling and stop doing all the things you would normally do, ensuring you don't deliberately holiday in a war zone, the terrorists win. Maybe us Brits are more fatalistic (or is it realistic) than you guys from the States and Canada, but I doubt you'd find any Brits having this kind of a debate, sorry......no offence intended Well said. I'll be going to St Petersburg aboard Emerald Princess next week and doing the usual tourist things when I get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Keith1010 Posted July 21, 2014 #15 Share Posted July 21, 2014 You could look at another cruise in lieu of this one. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising89143 Posted July 21, 2014 #16 Share Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) OP not silly at all. I myself would not take that itinerary because I would stay on the ship in Russia. That IMHO would be a waste of several days of an expensive cruise. I wish X would offer up an itineary that did not stop in Russia. If they did I would be more interested in cruising in that area. Personally I think we have only seen the beginning of what Putin has planned. Edited July 21, 2014 by cruisingator2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDC1 Posted July 21, 2014 #17 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I will not go on any cruise with Russian stops. Keep in mind that even if you don't get off the ship, the majority of the money that goes to the government is already paid by the cruise line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daff01 Posted July 21, 2014 #18 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Glad to see I'm not the only one who feels like this about Russian ports! Cruise lines take notice please! Sent using the Cruise Critic forums app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevnzworld Posted July 21, 2014 #19 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I just completed a Baltic cruise, and it was great. The Baltic is a fascinating part of the world, and completely safe...especially St Petersburg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake Posted July 21, 2014 #20 Share Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) With the worries of many people and the others who want to make a personal political ban on the region, NOW is probably the best time to cruise the Baltics with demand and pricing low. Could be setting up for a great buy. Edited July 21, 2014 by Shake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle-guy Posted July 21, 2014 #21 Share Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) With the worries of many people and the others who want to make a personal political ban on the region, NOW is probably the best time to cruise the Baltics with demand and pricing low. Could be setting up for a great buy. This is exactly what I tell all my friends about Egypt right now. Book a standard hotel room, show up and find your self assigned to a suite. Tourist sites, it's like you have them all to your self one-on one. A unique way to experience history for sure. And the impact you have on the lives of those whose business, tourist shops, hotel, taxi, driver, restaurant, will be impacted FAR more than you may ever imagine during bleak times like now in multiple regions of the world. Edited July 21, 2014 by cle-guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffetking Posted July 22, 2014 Author #22 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I appreciate your thoughtful comments. Normally I take news reporting with a "grain of salt." But I am bothered by this senseless loss of life. Cheers ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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