This Thread Is To Be Used For All Discussions About HAL's On Board Smoking Policies

[Fouremco]

I totally agree with your intention to START A NEW THREAD for a NEW POLICY.

 

The thread you started should be reinstated for people to state their opinion of the NEW policy and maybe let this one about the OLD policy die off.

 

Having said that, I am quite anxious to see how many posters on this old thread who said they would no longer sail with HAL should they implement a no smoking policy on balconies will actually come back and tell us they are jumping ship. I can think of a few very vocal posters whose reaction to this announcement I would like to hear ;) ... or maybe not :rolleyes:

Smoking policy is smoking policy, and as someone who has followed this thread since its inception, I don't see any particular benefit in starting a new thread. I'm all in favour of a thread, sticky or otherwise, announcing the change, but let's continue the debate on this thread. Not that I think that there will be much traffic after an initial flurry flowing from the change.

[h&swells]

Well that will mean I no longer need to consider booking balcony rooms - so can save money on the cruise to pay for all the alcohol I can now consume instead.

[kazu]

I think you guys are being spoofed.

 

The URL is not valid and the format/font is all over the place.

 

Someone's wishful thinking or is it 4/1/2017 already.

 

They also announced that you have won a free cruise and they only need your credit card number to process the taxes.

 

When I see it on http://www.hollandamerica.com (not http://www.f.e.hollandamerica.com) then I'll believe it.

the post was from LAFFNVEGAS, a legitimate TA of good repute. I can't see her posting something erroneous.

 

But, I didn't go to the URL. As she said, her announcement was from HAL

[pnkandpurple]

Well, that's not entirely accurate considering Noordam has one.

 

 

 

Celebrity is the most tough. According to these rules, Oosterdam and Eurodam will be even with Celebrity as the most restrictive on smoking. Curious though...why did they choose those 2 ships to not allow casino smoking? :confused:

 

Was on the Eurodam and the casino is nonsmoking after refurb. because it is now all one large space with billboard onboard, Lincoln stage, twin pianos and hallway going through the area to the elevator lobby.

[kennicott]

Doesn't Seabourn allow smoking too? Or is it Silversea? Not 100% sure.

 

Seabourn got smart 10 months ago on their balcony smoking

 

COSTA Cruises

Where You Can Smoke: Smoking is permitted in designated spaces on the open decks, on private balconies and in the Cigar Bar. Passengers may smoke e-cigarettes only in cabins and in the Cigar Bar.

 

Where You Can't: All public rooms are nonsmoking. Smoking in cabins is also prohibited.

 

SEABOURN Cruise Line

Where You Can Smoke: On Seabourn ships, indoor cigarette smoking is permitted on one side of the Observation Bar on Deck 10 after 8 p.m. Outdoor smoking is permitted on suite balconies, one side of the Sky Bar and one side of the Club on Deck 5. As of late November/early December 2016, Seabourn will update its policy and ban smoking on all private balconies and in the Observation Bar.

 

Electronic cigarettes may be used in all suites.

 

Where You Can't: Smoking is prohibited in all passenger cabins and most public areas are smoke-free.

 

Cigar and Pipe Smoking: Passengers are prohibited from smoking pipes and cigars anywhere inside the ship, including in suites and on balconies. Cigar and pipe smoking is permitted only on the starboard side of the open terrace on Deck 7, aft of Seabourn Square.

 

SILVERSEA Cruises

Where You Can Smoke: Smoking is permitted at designated tables outside the Panorama Lounge and Pool Bar, in the Connoisseur's Corner and at designated outside areas on the open deck.

 

Cigar and pipe smoking are only permitted in the Connoisseur's Corner and in specifically designated outside areas on open decks 9 and 10 aboard Silver Shadow, Silver Whisper and Silver Spirit, and open Deck 9 aboard Silver Cloud and Silver Wind

 

Where You Can't: Cabins, balconies and nearly all indoor spaces (with the exception of Connoisseur's Corner).

[CHOPPERTESTER]

the post was from LAFFNVEGAS, a legitimate TA of good repute. I can't see her posting something erroneous.

 

But, I didn't go to the URL. As she said, her announcement was from HAL

 

Go to the URL and see for yourself. Make sure you have malware protection, just in case.

 

Maybe LAFFNVEGAS can scan what she got from HAL and post it here. Not a transcription, not a re-direct to a URL, not "It's posted everywhere". If it is true and valid then there should be no issue posting in this thread.

 

I know HAL's web site takes time to post these things.

[LUPY48]

I just got off the phone with HAL...sadly, it's true.

[kennicott]

Smoking policy is smoking policy, and as someone who has followed this thread since its inception, I don't see any particular benefit in starting a new thread. I'm all in favour of a thread, sticky or otherwise, announcing the change, but let's continue the debate on this thread. Not that I think that there will be much traffic after an initial flurry flowing from the change.

 

Agreed----No sense in starting a new one and this one will die out in short order if the news release is legitimate. I would like to see C.C. look into this and make an announcement whether or not it is a hoax, though.

[Hlitner]

Just wondering if denials are a last "gasp" from smokers :). Ok, a sense of humor (humour for you Brits) goes a long way on blogs.

 

Hank

[Ken the cruiser]

Seabourn got smart 10 months ago on their balcony smoking

 

COSTA Cruises

Where You Can Smoke: Smoking is permitted in designated spaces on the open decks, on private balconies and in the Cigar Bar. Passengers may smoke e-cigarettes only in cabins and in the Cigar Bar.

 

Where You Can't: All public rooms are nonsmoking. Smoking in cabins is also prohibited.

 

SEABOURN Cruise Line

Where You Can Smoke: On Seabourn ships, indoor cigarette smoking is permitted on one side of the Observation Bar on Deck 10 after 8 p.m. Outdoor smoking is permitted on suite balconies, one side of the Sky Bar and one side of the Club on Deck 5. As of late November/early December 2016, Seabourn will update its policy and ban smoking on all private balconies and in the Observation Bar.

 

Electronic cigarettes may be used in all suites.

 

Where You Can't: Smoking is prohibited in all passenger cabins and most public areas are smoke-free.

 

Cigar and Pipe Smoking: Passengers are prohibited from smoking pipes and cigars anywhere inside the ship, including in suites and on balconies. Cigar and pipe smoking is permitted only on the starboard side of the open terrace on Deck 7, aft of Seabourn Square.

 

SILVERSEA Cruises

Where You Can Smoke: Smoking is permitted at designated tables outside the Panorama Lounge and Pool Bar, in the Connoisseur's Corner and at designated outside areas on the open deck.

 

Cigar and pipe smoking are only permitted in the Connoisseur's Corner and in specifically designated outside areas on open decks 9 and 10 aboard Silver Shadow, Silver Whisper and Silver Spirit, and open Deck 9 aboard Silver Cloud and Silver Wind

 

Where You Can't: Cabins, balconies and nearly all indoor spaces (with the exception of Connoisseur's Corner).

 

Thanks Kennicott for the great indept summary!

[taxmantoo]

Also posted on CruiseRadio.net

 

Do all you doubters want a personalized copy signed in blood and delivered to you in person by Orlando Ashford ? :rolleyes:

Edited September 30, 2016 by taxmantoo

[Cruising-along]

Maybe my luck is changing. Recently had a Celebrity cruise change to a charter and lost that reservation, but my reservation on the Koningsdam is for January 8th! This is the first day for the new smoking policy on the K-dam. My wife will be especially happy.

 

 

Exactly what I said on Lisa's thread that went poof. See you in January Bob! [emoji1]

 

 

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[LAFFNVEGAS]

I think you guys are being spoofed.

 

The URL is not valid and the format/font is all over the place.

 

Someone's wishful thinking or is it 4/1/2017 already.

 

They also announced that you have won a free cruise and they only need your credit card number to process the taxes.

 

When I see it on http://www.hollandamerica.com (not http://www.f.e.hollandamerica.com) then I'll believe it.

 

Definitely not a joke.....

http://f.e.hollandamerica.com/i/41/1010169812/Smoking_Policy.pdf

 

[Fouremco]

Also posted on CruiseRadio.net

 

Do all you doubters want a personalized copy signed in blood and delivered to you in person by Orlando Ashford ? :rolleyes:

Nah, they were hoping for a personalized smoke signal! :D

[Lady Arwen]

Definitely not a joke.....

http://f.e.hollandamerica.com/i/41/1010169812/Smoking_Policy.pdf

 

 

Lupy48 just reported that they spoke directly to HAL and it has been confirmed to be true. Your pdf is the real deal.

[taxmantoo]

Nah, they were hoping for a personalized smoke signal! :D

 

No longer allowed on HAL ... they have been extinguished :D

[kazu]

Go to the URL and see for yourself. Make sure you have malware protection, just in case.

 

Maybe LAFFNVEGAS can scan what she got from HAL and post it here. Not a transcription, not a re-direct to a URL, not "It's posted everywhere". If it is true and valid then there should be no issue posting in this thread.

 

I know HAL's web site takes time to post these things.

 

Definitely not a joke.....

http://f.e.hollandamerica.com/i/41/1010169812/Smoking_Policy.pdf

 

 

The link works just fine form me CHOPPERTESTER and no warnings ;)

 

Why not trust those who know???

 

Sad the original thread was removed as a LOT of people (myself included) don't usually come here so unless they check HAL's rules faqs, they won't know.

 

I totally confess, I usually re-check before I book, after that, I'm not back. HAL is not known for big changes ;) :p

Edited September 30, 2016 by kazu

[mightycruisequeen]

Definitely not a joke.....

http://f.e.hollandamerica.com/i/41/1010169812/Smoking_Policy.pdf

 

 

Thanks so much for sharing this. :D

In the meantime, I also had an online chat with a HAL rep named Jessica who confirmed that it's true, it's true, it's true, o happy day, it's true! :D

[RJ2002]

Happy to see this news!!! :)

[CHOPPERTESTER]

Also posted on CruiseRadio.net

 

Do all you doubters want a personalized copy signed in blood and delivered to you in person by Orlando Ashford ? :rolleyes:

 

Nope, but a scanned version would work.

 

"Lupy48 just reported that they spoke directly to HAL and it has been confirmed to be true. Your pdf is the real deal. "

 

You mean the real HAL like "What are you doing Dave?" LOL It must be true then.

 

Bring on the ban smoking in the Casino thread!

[freestyling]

I posted earlier that the HAL rep said policy did not change, however I called again and they did say an announcement will be on the website shortly. I asked what changed and they said it will be posted. Typical of HAL reps ! I still hope they figure out something for smokers during bad weather and yes I'm a non- smoker

[lahlah57]

I posted earlier that the HAL rep said policy did not change, however I called again and they did say an announcement will be on the website shortly. I asked what changed and they said it will be posted. Typical of HAL reps ! I still hope they figure out something for smokers during bad weather and yes I'm a non- smoker

 

There was a thread just earlier today about the policy changing for no smoking (woo hoo!!!) come january 2017.

Went to look for it but the police removed it. Why do you care about smokers and bad weather? Just curious:confused:

[KenNMB]

Found this earlier. Not sure where it went. FWIW::rolleyes:

New Smoking Policy For Holland America

 

NEW SMOKING POLICY

 

Holland America Line will implement a new smoking policy beginning in January 2017. No smoking of any kind will be permitted on any stateroom verandah. Smoking of cigarettes, cigars and pipes is already not permitted in any stateroom. We are announcing this new policy to better align with guest wishes and health concerns.

 

http://f.e.hollandamerica.com/i/41/1010169812/Smoking_Policy.pdf

 

September 29, 2016

 

Holland America Line will implement a new smoking policy beginning in January 2017. No smoking of any kind will be permitted on any stateroom verandah. Smoking of cigarettes, cigars and pipes is already not permitted in any stateroom. The new policy has been announced to better align with guest wishes and health concerns. The new smoking policy takes effect on all ships on the following dates (as well as any combination cruise spanning these dates):

 

SHIP NEW SMOKING POLICY BEGINS

 

ms MaasdamJanuary 2, 2017

 

ms RotterdamJanuary 2, 2017

 

ms VolendamJanuary 3, 2017

 

ms NoordamJanuary 4, 2017

 

ms VeendamJanuary 4, 2017

 

ms ZuiderdamJanuary 4, 2017

 

ms Nieuw AmsterdamJanuary 6, 2017

 

ms EurodamJanuary 7, 2017

 

ms WesterdamJanuary 7, 2017

 

ms KoningsdamJanuary 8, 2017

 

ms ZaandamJanuary 10, 2017

 

ms OosterdamJanuary 13, 2017

 

ms AmsterdamApril 26, 2017

 

ms PrinsendamMay 6, 2017 For guests who wish to smoke, the designated smoking areas for all ships are as follows unless otherwise noted:

 

Tobacco products (cigarettes, cigars and pipes)

 

Permitted Outdoors •Sea View (Retreat) Bar/Pool on starboard side. On ms Prinsendam, ms Koningsdam and ms Nieuw Statendam, smoking allowed on the port side. Smoking is never on both sides.•Sun Bar on ms Koningsdam and ms Nieuw Statendam.

 

•• Sports Deck forward and aft of Crow’s Nest on starboard side on ms Maasdam,

 

ms Veendam, ms Volendam, ms Zaandam, ms Rotterdam and ms Amsterdam, aft of

 

Crow’s Nest starboard side.

 

Permitted Indoors

 

• Oak Room on ms Noordam only.

 

• Designated areas for active slot players in Casinos. ms Oosterdam and ms Eurodam

 

casinos are completely non-smoking, however.

 

Not Permitted:

 

Inside all staterooms/suites.

 

On any stateroom/suite verandahs.

 

E-cigarettes and Vaping devices

 

Permitted:

 

Inside all staterooms/suites.

 

Designated smoking areas listed above.

 

Not Permitted:

 

On any stateroom/suite verandahs.

 

Other public areas.

 

Any guest who smokes inside staterooms or verandahs in violation of our policy will be

 

charged a US$250 cleaning fee per day of violation and will risk being removed from the ship

 

for repeated violations.

 

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Ken Skelly

[freestyling]

There was a thread just earlier today about the policy changing for no smoking (woo hoo!!!) come january 2017.

Went to look for it but the police removed it. Why do you care about smokers and bad weather? Just curious:confused:

 

We are fortunate that we are able to take 20-30 day cruises a few times each year. We have noticed when the weather is bad (cold/rainy) etc. that smokers still smoke! I would prefer they have an area where it is less likely they get sick and spread it. Also feel that it should not be that big of a deal for a cruise line to make an area for smokers. Sure it will cost some $$ but so is acquiring/maintaining a customer base.

[lahlah57]

We are fortunate that we are able to take 20-30 day cruises a few times each year. We have noticed when the weather is bad (cold/rainy) etc. that smokers still smoke! I would prefer they have an area where it is less likely they get sick and spread it. Also feel that it should not be that big of a deal for a cruise line to make an area for smokers. Sure it will cost some $$ but so is acquiring/maintaining a customer base.

 

Okay now I know your thinking. I don't mind a spot for them to smoke just as long as it.does not impose on my enjoyment inside or outside.