ckl001 Posted December 15, 2014 #1 Share Posted December 15, 2014 My thoughts go out to everyone caught up in the Sydney seige. I hope it all end soon with everyone safe. chez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celle Posted December 15, 2014 #2 Share Posted December 15, 2014 It's over. Gunman and, unfortunately, two hostages killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted December 15, 2014 #3 Share Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) Great work by the NSW Police Force and other Emergency Services. My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims families. Edited December 15, 2014 by NSWP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare frantic36 Posted December 15, 2014 #4 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Such a sad conclusion but understand how as the gunman got tired problems would crop up. The police did their best in a difficult situation. My thoughts and condolences to the people involved in this sad situation. Julie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Scrapnana Posted December 15, 2014 #5 Share Posted December 15, 2014 So sad that people have such hate in their hearts that they need to do acts of terrorism like this. Prayers to all concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted December 16, 2014 #6 Share Posted December 16, 2014 So sad that people have such hate in their hearts that they need to do acts of terrorism like this. Prayers to all concerned. Everything I am seeing indicates this was an issue of mental illness, not intentional attempts to be a affiliated terrorist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Big_M Posted December 16, 2014 #7 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I have to say I'm disappointed by the excessive secrecy the services applied... which they do too often here. For example, at this stage there should be clear statements as to how the victims died and the investigation ensuing, and the fact they haven't said by now that they were killed by the nutter beforehand suggests some other culpability. Which then raises the question about whether they did go about this the best way. Two civilians died - good people - and it seems to be just be under due process, like any everyday investigation. I hope the service were not the cause in any way of either of those other deaths, but what happens when you keep things secret is it raises these doubts. Our premier has been markedly lacklustre through this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussieflyer Posted December 16, 2014 #8 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Everything I am seeing indicates this was an issue of mental illness, not intentional attempts to be a affiliated terrorist... Agreed - a person who had a number of issues and who acted alone. His actions have been condemned by the Muslim communities here. Unfortunately some media and others in power have been touting the terrorist line, not at all helpful IMO. Don't want to get into a political discussion so that will do from me :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassamanda Posted December 16, 2014 #9 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I have to say I'm disappointed by the excessive secrecy the services applied... which they do too often here. For example, at this stage there should be clear statements as to how the victims died and the investigation ensuing, and the fact they haven't said by now that they were killed by the nutter beforehand suggests some other culpability. Which then raises the question about whether they did go about this the best way. Two civilians died - good people - and it seems to be just be under due process, like any everyday investigation. I hope the service were not the cause in any way of either of those other deaths, but what happens when you keep things secret is it raises these doubts. H Our premier has been markedly lacklustre through this. It is quite clear from all the reports that at least one of the hostages was killed by their captor, hence the reason for the police storming the shop. My opinion is that unfortunately the line has been drawn in the sand. It is a very sad day for Australia and our way of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Big_M Posted December 16, 2014 #10 Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) It is quite clear from all the reports that at least one of the hostages was killed by their captor, hence the reason for the police storming the shop. My opinion is that unfortunately the line has been drawn in the sand. It is a very sad day for Australia and our way of life. That may be the case, but it may not be. How about an official statement instead of letting the rumour mill run wild? In any case, that doesn't account for the other life. "Collateral damage?" Just way too many secrets there. They haven't even stated how the hostages departed. Again, it's all just speculation so far. Edited December 16, 2014 by The_Big_M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retird Posted December 16, 2014 #11 Share Posted December 16, 2014 It has only been 24 + hours since this sad and unfortunate incident happened. The Authorities cannot control rumors and normally will not react to rumors. I do not see the authorities making any definitive announcements until they have concluded their forensics examinations and investigation. Rumors will always surface when something like this happens and we should not be too hasty in coming to conclusions until all the facts are known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cairns local Posted December 17, 2014 #12 Share Posted December 17, 2014 It has only been 24 + hours since this sad and unfortunate incident happened. The Authorities cannot control rumors and normally will not react to rumors. I do not see the authorities making any definitive announcements until they have concluded their forensics examinations and investigation. Rumors will always surface when something like this happens and we should not be too hasty in coming to conclusions until all the facts are known. Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted December 17, 2014 #13 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I have to say I'm disappointed by the excessive secrecy the services applied... which they do too often here. For example, at this stage there should be clear statements as to how the victims died and the investigation ensuing, and the fact they haven't said by now that they were killed by the nutter beforehand suggests some other culpability. Which then raises the question about whether they did go about this the best way. Two civilians died - good people - and it seems to be just be under due process, like any everyday investigation. I hope the service were not the cause in any way of either of those other deaths, but what happens when you keep things secret is it raises these doubts. Our premier has been markedly lacklustre through this. The incident is subject of a Critical Incident Investigation by NSW Police Homicide Squad (reviewed in due course by The NSW State Ombudsman and Police Integrity Unit.) Also subject to a NSW Coroner's Enquiry. That is Protocol and Standing Operating Procedure for such matters in the State of New South Wales. The media is speculating and assuming too much, as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mr walker Posted December 17, 2014 #14 Share Posted December 17, 2014 It has only been 24 + hours since this sad and unfortunate incident happened. The Authorities cannot control rumors and normally will not react to rumors. I do not see the authorities making any definitive announcements until they have concluded their forensics examinations and investigation. Rumors will always surface when something like this happens and we should not be too hasty in coming to conclusions until all the facts are known. The incident is subject of a Critical Incident Investigation by NSW Police Homicide Squad (reviewed in due course by The NSW State Ombudsman and Police Integrity Unit.) Also subject to a NSW Coroner's Enquiry. That is Protocol and Standing Operating Procedure for such matters in the State of New South Wales. Agree with these 100%. In contrast, what a peculiar view expressed above :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Big_M Posted December 17, 2014 #15 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Yes, so 'peculiar' to be concerned about civilian deaths during a police operation. Just another case of 'too bad so sad' for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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