rallydave Posted June 5, 2015 #26 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I do not see how a TA is going to fix document production problems. r/Don Also, a TA, good bad, or otherwise is not going to be able to fix poor customer service and incorrect information coming from the home office of any company or cruise line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwgreenlee Posted June 5, 2015 Author #27 Share Posted June 5, 2015 So much conflicting info. Just talked to an Oceania phone supervisor who said our "cruise planner" (the folder with the printed luggage tags) for a 7/7/15 departure has not yet been sent out and it should be closer to the three weeks cited in the O web FAQs. Sometimes they'll go out sooner. But, right now they're actually running a bit late.Didn't ask about any priority based on cabin class, which could also account for different arrival times. Also, to squash another rumor, she said there is no immediate intention to move to "print your own" tags. Thanks for the data point. Since I am flying to Florida a week early I have one less week for them to arrive. Not good. R/Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwgreenlee Posted June 5, 2015 Author #28 Share Posted June 5, 2015 As I mentioned before the porters will have extra tags at the port just tell them you do not have them when you drop your bags they will give you some In our experience the Final Docs are emailed as Jan said about 3 wks prior The Cruise Planner can arrive 4-8 wks prior usually we get it about 6 wks Two different items Just take your final invoice to show them at the port ..Miami people are pretty strict about seeing something to show you are on the cruise Same thing in Montreal a few weeks ago I do not like getting the tags from porters. Not only does it slow down check-in but the haste of the situation provides Mr. Murphy an opportunity - especially if all the passengers show up w/o tags. Not off to a good start. r/Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatbush Flyer Posted June 5, 2015 #29 Share Posted June 5, 2015 As I mentioned before the porters will have extra tags at the port just tell them you do not have them when you drop your bags they will give you some In our experience the Final Docs are emailed as Jan said about 3 wks prior The Cruise Planner can arrive 4-8 wks prior usually we get it about 6 wks Two different items Just take your final invoice to show them at the port ..Miami people are pretty strict about seeing something to show you are on the cruise Same thing in Montreal a few weeks ago What is past experience and what is "right now" are vastly different things. What we appear to know "right now" is that there is a lag in the production and/or mailing of "cruise vacation planners", which are the folders with multicolored printed materials and preprinted luggage tags. What remains unclear is what are the e-mail "final docs" to which some folks are referring? If it is the "paid in full" invoice, wouldn't that have come as the TA's "paid" statement right after final payment (or directly from O if no TA in the picture)? I think we've clarified that the Cruise Vacation Planners (with luggage tags) are behind schedule. So, will someone "in the know" clarify the e-mail item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DOJO466 Posted June 5, 2015 #30 Share Posted June 5, 2015 What is past experience and what is "right now" are vastly different things.What we appear to know "right now" is that there is a lag in the production and/or mailing of "cruise vacation planners", which are the folders with multicolored printed materials and preprinted luggage tags. What remains unclear is what are the e-mail "final docs" to which some folks are referring? If it is the "paid in full" invoice, wouldn't that have come as the TA's "paid" statement right after final payment (or directly from O if no TA in the picture)? I think we've clarified that the Cruise Vacation Planners (with luggage tags) are behind schedule. So, will someone "in the know" clarify the e-mail item. You are emailed a "Final Cruise Vacation Summary" about 3 weeks prior to your cruise. Basically it is Page 4 of your Cruise Vacation Planner along with the itinerary and Specialty reservations etc. They also mail you terms and conditions. I rec'd mine a few days ago. This is not anything new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted June 5, 2015 #31 Share Posted June 5, 2015 What remains unclear is what are the e-mail "final docs" to which some folks are referring? If it is the "paid in full" invoice, wouldn't that have come as the TA's "paid" statement right after final payment (or directly from O if no TA in the picture)? I think we've clarified that the Cruise Vacation Planners (with luggage tags) are behind schedule. So, will someone "in the know" clarify the e-mail item. The emailed final docs are like the personal page in the planner with the hotline number on it but also include dining reservations (if booked) culinary classes (if booked ) Airflights if using O air cruise Itinerary I suspected any excursions (if booked ) I have not booked any so not sure Any onboard credits you are getting It is about 3 pages long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jancruz Posted June 5, 2015 #32 Share Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) What is past experience and what is "right now" are vastly different things.What we appear to know "right now" is that there is a lag in the production and/or mailing of "cruise vacation planners", which are the folders with multicolored printed materials and preprinted luggage tags. What remains unclear is what are the e-mail "final docs" to which some folks are referring? If it is the "paid in full" invoice, wouldn't that have come as the TA's "paid" statement right after final payment (or directly from O if no TA in the picture)? I think we've clarified that the Cruise Vacation Planners (with luggage tags) are behind schedule. So, will someone "in the know" clarify the e-mail item. Final docs come to you by email , 3 weeks prior to departure, including the following: We are pleased to present you with our Final Cruise Vacation Summary upcoming voyage with Oceania Cruises. These electronic documents are easy to use and there are no documents to lose. Simply open the attached document and print them. The attached documents include all applicable information you need for your voyage: Detailed flight schedule & E-Ticket information Pre- and Post-Cruise hotel arrangements Pre-purchased shore excursion information Emergency contact information Embarkation port information and local representative contact information Jancruz1 Edited June 5, 2015 by Jancruz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatbush Flyer Posted June 5, 2015 #33 Share Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) You are emailed a "Final Cruise Vacation Summary" about 3 weeks prior to your cruise. Basically it is Page 4 of your Cruise Vacation Planner along with the itinerary and Specialty reservations etc. They also mail you terms and conditions. I rec'd mine a few days ago. This is not anything new. Thanks for the clarification. And if I remember correctly, it comes direct from O and not your TA? Edited June 5, 2015 by Flatbush Flyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DOJO466 Posted June 5, 2015 #34 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Thanks for the clarification. And if I remember correctly, it comes direct from O and not your TA? It comes direct from O but my TA contacts me to make sure I got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted June 5, 2015 #35 Share Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) it comes direct from o but my ta contacts me to make sure i got it. Ditto ;) Edited June 5, 2015 by LHT28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondorner Posted June 6, 2015 #36 Share Posted June 6, 2015 New story. Spoke to Linda who said they were issued yesterday - last week they were in the mail - and I should receive them in 7-10 days. She told me the delay was because I just booked it April, I noted that was April 2014 and April 2015 to June 2015 should be plenty of time anyway, then she said I took a change offer and I noted that there was no change in the booking since April 2014. Anyway, not real sure what is going on but she assured me they were in the mail. I will call again next Wed and see what the story is then. Seems like a lot of trouble for luggage tags. I do not see how a TA is going to fix document production problems. r/Don A good TA, familiar with the cruise line, will talk to the proper person and get the straight facts, and not give you 2 or 3 or more guesses like the above representative did. They can't solve the problem if it's outside Oceania, but they can get you the correct answer. Knowing what is happening is half the battle. They can also get you luggage tags, even if they are hand written (I actually had that happen). I've had problems like this; I just call and they take it from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Nit Noy Posted June 6, 2015 #37 Share Posted June 6, 2015 (edited) They can also get you luggage tags, even if they are hand written (I actually had that happen). I've had problems like this; I just call and they take it from there. On an Oceania trip out of Miami, we flew in the day ahead but waited to tag our luggage until the time came to drive to the pier. Getting ready to leave the hotel, we discovered the luggage tags had fallen out of the back of the booklet. When we arrived at the pier, the following happened: The luggage handler who pulled our suitcases from the taxi shouted the name of one particular luggage handler. This fellow has a pocket stuffed with luggage tags. I don't even think that same fellow had a magic marker to write in the stateroom number -- just an ordinary ball point pen -- but the tags worked. Under the circumstance, we were happy Oceania had some back-up system. Frankly, since you know in advance there is a potential problem, I suggest you take a couple of pieces of white cardboard, cut out tags, use a bold marker and write in the following: name of the ship, embarkation date, stateroom number, and your name. That's what's on the official tags. Then affix string to the cards. Not quite as pretty as the official Oceania thing, but being prepared may de-stress the situation. AFter all, you've said you've got the important cruise docs. The porters can match your ID to the list of names for that cruise and take your luggage from you without hesitation even if the problem never gets resolved. I assume Oceania has the same system in place in any port from which they embark. Edited June 6, 2015 by Pet Nit Noy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwgreenlee Posted June 6, 2015 Author #38 Share Posted June 6, 2015 (edited) A good TA, familiar with the cruise line, will talk to the proper person and get the straight facts, and not give you 2 or 3 or more guesses like the above representative did. They can't solve the problem if it's outside Oceania, but they can get you the correct answer. Knowing what is happening is half the battle. They can also get you luggage tags, even if they are hand written (I actually had that happen). I've had problems like this; I just call and they take it from there. You are beating a dead horse. I did not use a TA, I am not going to use a TA, and I am glad you are happy with yours. Not to be rude but there is another thread on the merits of TA's - I am trying to sort out luggage tags. r/Don Edited June 6, 2015 by dwgreenlee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwgreenlee Posted June 6, 2015 Author #39 Share Posted June 6, 2015 On an Oceania trip out of Miami, we flew in the day ahead but waited to tag our luggage until the time came to drive to the pier. Getting ready to leave the hotel, we discovered the luggage tags had fallen out of the back of the booklet. When we arrived at the pier, the following happened: The luggage handler who pulled our suitcases from the taxi shouted the name of one particular luggage handler. This fellow has a pocket stuffed with luggage tags. I don't even think that same fellow had a magic marker to write in the stateroom number -- just an ordinary ball point pen -- but the tags worked. Under the circumstance, we were happy Oceania had some back-up system. Frankly, since you know in advance there is a potential problem, I suggest you take a couple of pieces of white cardboard, cut out tags, use a bold marker and write in the following: name of the ship, embarkation date, stateroom number, and your name. That's what's on the official tags. Then affix string to the cards. Not quite as pretty as the official Oceania thing, but being prepared may de-stress the situation. AFter all, you've said you've got the important cruise docs. The porters can match your ID to the list of names for that cruise and take your luggage from you without hesitation even if the problem never gets resolved. I assume Oceania has the same system in place in any port from which they embark. Good suggestion. I think I will do a little power point work and make up some tags - like you said they will not be official but they will get the bags to my cabin in the event Mr. Murphy is part of the porter process. I really expect the booklet and tags will show up - if later than expected. I was just concerned because things were not proceeding as they had in the past. The production problems Oceania is experiencing is unexpected and has confused even their reps - even professionals like things to follow normal processes. Thanks for sharing your experience and suggestion. r/Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted June 6, 2015 #40 Share Posted June 6, 2015 The O website FAQs say they are sent to your TA or to you direct approx 21 days before embarkation. We opt for delivery direct rather than to our TA and expect we'll see our docs arrive at some point in mid June for a July 7 departure. stupid question - how did you opt for delivery direct? I have filled our the registration but don't recall seeing anything there? thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanandJim Posted June 6, 2015 #41 Share Posted June 6, 2015 stupid question - how did you opt for delivery direct? I have filled our the registration but don't recall seeing anything there? thanks. How your documents are to be sent out is something that your Travel Agent decides, (it's not a passenger driven thing) so talk to him or her about that. The theory being that some Agents prefer to screen what their clients' receive for completeness and accuracy, before they get into the passengers' hands. If you did not use an Agent, then there is nowhere else for the Docs to go, but to you :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted June 6, 2015 #42 Share Posted June 6, 2015 stupid question - how did you opt for delivery direct? I have filled our the registration but don't recall seeing anything there? thanks. My TA just has them sent direct to me Just ask who you booked with to do the same Some TA's like to get them first to check them over first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted June 6, 2015 #43 Share Posted June 6, 2015 How your documents are to be sent out is something that your Travel Agent decides, (it's not a passenger driven thing) so talk to him or her about that. The theory being that some Agents prefer to screen what their clients' receive for completeness and accuracy, before they get into the passengers' hands. If you did not use an Agent, then there is nowhere else for the Docs to go, but to you :D My TA just has them sent direct to me Just ask who you booked with to do the same Some TA's like to get them first to check them over first thanks both very much. Guess my newness of "O" is showing - LOL. Makes total sense. I will contact my TA as we are leaving much earlier than the cruise for Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NU/Fan Posted June 9, 2015 #44 Share Posted June 9, 2015 As of yesterdays mail. We are on the same cruise and we have not received any documents and today is four weeks out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jancruz Posted June 9, 2015 #45 Share Posted June 9, 2015 As of yesterdays mail. We are on the same cruise and we have not received any documents and today is four weeks out. They are really not documents just info in your Cruise Vacation Guide that come in the mail..in case you dont receive them its no big deal as you dont need them to board..you will receive your final docs by email next week.. Jancruz1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatbush Flyer Posted June 9, 2015 #46 Share Posted June 9, 2015 They are really not documents just info in your Cruise Vacation Guide that come in the mail..in case you dont receive them its no big deal as you dont need them to board..you will receive your final docs by email next week.. Jancruz1 So, still a bit confusing. Some O cruisers have never seen the "final docs" e-mail. All they've been sent is the "Cruise Vacation Planner" (with the luggage tags). See this post from our current "Riviera Roll Call": http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showpost.php?p=46786274 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwgreenlee Posted June 9, 2015 Author #47 Share Posted June 9, 2015 As of yesterdays mail. We are on the same cruise and we have not received any documents and today is four weeks out. Thanks for sharing your status. Attached is my home made luggage tag. If you send me an email - dwgreenlee {at} aol {dot} com - I will forward the Power Point file. r/Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted June 9, 2015 #48 Share Posted June 9, 2015 So, still a bit confusing. Some O cruisers have never seen the "final docs" e-mail. All they've been sent is the "Cruise Vacation Planner" (with the luggage tags). See this post from our current "Riviera Roll Call": http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showpost.php?p=46786274 Maybe they did not realize it was the final doc email If they have never received it is 6 cruises something is wrong there :eek: They need to talk to who they booked the cruise with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanandJim Posted June 9, 2015 #49 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Maybe they did not realize it was the final doc email If they have never received it is 6 cruises something is wrong there :eek: They need to talk to who they booked the cruise with There can be a number of factors at work here, these are the most common: 1) Some Travel Agents uniformly input only the Agency email address. 2) Does the client have a current, working email address on File with O? New Reservations are often made in such a way that information is carried over from prior bookings. 3) Passengers may have settings on their Email Account Spam filters which block bulk Email messages. (bulk email (UBE), is a subset of electronic spam involving nearly identical messages sent to numerous recipients by email). By definition, the Final Docs email would also involve sending hundreds of nearly identical emails to numerous recipients....you do the math. ;) 4) ) Email Account Spam filters almost always screen for suspected Phishing Links, and the Final Docs email will necessarily include a number of Links back to the O Site. Check your Spam Folder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ORV Posted June 9, 2015 #50 Share Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) Thanks for sharing your status. Attached is my home made luggage tag. If you send me an email - dwgreenlee {at} aol {dot} com - I will forward the Power Point file. r/Don That looks nice. I'm sure it'll make it to your stateroom. I'm not sure on Oceania but many cruise lines use different colors for different sections of the ship to help the crew sort the luggage quicker and get it to your cabin quicker. A homemade tag might slow down delivery a little bit, but so would the generic ones that a porter fills out. I've never failed to receive my luggage tags from Oceania, but then again I have a good TA that makes sure everything is taken care of;). Enjoy your cruise. Edited June 9, 2015 by ORV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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