Administrators Rare LauraS Posted May 2, 2016 Administrators #1 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Check out the latest Holland America news from Cruise Critic: Holland America Line Confirms New Features for Next Pinnacle Class Ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiser Bruiser Posted May 2, 2016 #2 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Boy, HAL isn't losing any time in addressing hits and misses on the King. Perhaps the wine bar will become something more akin to Vines on Princess? And the Culinary Art Center is such a signature feature for HAL, I'm surprised more folks aren't participating in the dinner experience. But with the addition of yet another dining venue, HAL is certainly borrowing from my other line, NCL. HAL had to be prepared for the "too-big" :mad: reaction, but as they say, Koningsdam is a meduim-size ship by anyone's definition. And for us "youngsters", we like a bit of room to roam. My only disappointment is that there was not word of an increase in the number of OO Single Outside staterooms. Clearly demand exceeds supply, and an increase would seemingly appeal to HAL's target demographic. Perhaps we'll get word later, eh HAL? ;) Ultimately, it's nice to have confirmation that Pinnacle II is a reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamflames Posted May 2, 2016 #3 Share Posted May 2, 2016 that is an embarrassing article! Where is the positive spin? Have these officers done any form of media training? Between the average poster on these boards and HAL itself I am certain there is a conspiracy to downgrade my enthusiasm to such low levels that I will have no option other than to be impressed from such low expectations :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ski ww Posted May 2, 2016 #4 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Have not been on her, but from the write up & pictures from her first cruise the one big thing I didn't like was the Promenade Deck. I miss the traditional wide open to the sea with deck chairs. Don't know if HAL will or can do anything about that. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida_gal_50 Posted May 3, 2016 #5 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Thank you for the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted May 3, 2016 #6 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Ah, but will HAL fix the horrible mistake they made with the Promenade Deck. That is the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailingdutchy Posted May 4, 2016 #7 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Ah, but will HAL fix the horrible mistake they made with the Promenade Deck. That is the question. And also what about a library that almost completely disappeared ? I guess their reasoning is we don't make money on the library , lets scrap it ! :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted May 4, 2016 #8 Share Posted May 4, 2016 (edited) And also what about a library that almost completely disappeared ? I guess their reasoning is we don't make money on the library , lets scrap it ! :mad: Good point about the library. The best one is on the Prinsendam, with those on the S- & R-class ships a pretty close second. HAL needs to understand that removing places that don't generate revenue, and replacing them with revenue generating places, also remove many of the reasons for wanting to sail their ships in the first place. Edited May 4, 2016 by RuthC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiser Bruiser Posted May 4, 2016 #9 Share Posted May 4, 2016 And also what about a library that almost completely disappeared ? I guess their reasoning is we don't make money on the library , lets scrap it ! :mad: I'm afraid the library is most likely a victim of electronic devices and Wi-Fi. I bring my own library with me on my Kindle, for example, and I can imagine that use of the library's books has declined considerably as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Rare LauraS Posted May 20, 2016 Author Administrators #10 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Check out the latest Holland America news from Cruise Critic: Holland America Line Releases Name for Next Pinnacle-Class Cruise Ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheWASide Posted May 20, 2016 #11 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir PMP Posted May 20, 2016 #12 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Good name, now all they need to do is bring back the promenade deck and the library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiser Bruiser Posted May 20, 2016 #13 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Lots of folks were guessing Statendam. They were close. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ski ww Posted May 20, 2016 #14 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Good name, now all they need to do is bring back the promenade deck and the library I agree. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheWASide Posted May 20, 2016 #15 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Good name, now all they need to do is bring back the promenade deck and the library OBVIOUSLY the promenade cannot be modified on the existing ship and it would be unrealistic to assume a sister ship would have a dramatic redesign... As for the library, many more books have already been added. This posted courtesy of our ABC affiliate weather man Seth Wayne who is covering the naming. He captioned it as follows: A mini @ElliottBayBooks at sea! #books #Koningsdam @HALcruises #KODMdedication Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeniEncinitas Posted May 23, 2016 #16 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Thank you!!! Denise:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luv4cruises Posted June 11, 2016 #17 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Ah, but will HAL fix the horrible mistake they made with the Promenade Deck. That is the question. Their promenade decks are the best at sea. So sorry that they have eliminated it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted June 15, 2016 #18 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Thanks Laura, interesting article. BTW, the Koningsdam will be sailing out of Fort Lauderdale, not Miami, unless HAL has made a change that hasn't been publicly announced. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaveDiving Posted June 22, 2016 #19 Share Posted June 22, 2016 ...Ultimately, it's nice to have confirmation that Pinnacle II is a reality. Could you possibly elaborate on this. Scott & Karen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pris993 Posted July 3, 2016 #20 Share Posted July 3, 2016 I am looking to my next HAL cruise, going to book Eurodam since it has the features I like, main deck, library, bath tubs in all cabins... these new ships do not impress us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiser Bruiser Posted July 3, 2016 #21 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Could you possibly elaborate on this. Scott & Karen Hey there, sorry for the delay. I meant that Pinnacle II existed as an "option." Presumably now a contract has been signed and construction will begin on an actual date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublebzz Posted September 11, 2016 #22 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Surprise to me; I though they were going with IDONTGIVEADAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ski ww Posted September 12, 2016 #23 Share Posted September 12, 2016 OBVIOUSLY the promenade cannot be modified on the existing ship and it would be unrealistic to assume a sister ship would have a dramatic redesign... As for the library, many more books have already been added. This posted courtesy of our ABC affiliate weather man Seth Wayne who is covering the naming. He captioned it as follows: A mini @ElliottBayBooks at sea! #books #Koningsdam @HALcruises #KODMdedication If this is what passes for a library it's pretty pathetic. I live in a town that has less population then the Koningsdam has passengers & crew with a bigger library. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted September 12, 2016 #24 Share Posted September 12, 2016 If this is what passes for a library it's pretty pathetic. I live in a town that has less population then the Koningsdam has passengers & crew with a bigger library.Allan I so agree with your comments. This looks more like the Neptune Lounge library than the library for the entire ship ;) Not a library by my definition of the word ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wander Posted September 19, 2016 #25 Share Posted September 19, 2016 I agree with Cruiser Bruiser, I think the library changes are in large part due to the electronics age. I do NOT like the idea of the space going away, but on the Voyage of the Vikings this summer, I was a regular visitor to the Expresso Bar, and I noted, day after day, that while the "Library" space was pretty full much of the time, for the folks reading there at least 75% were using electronic readers, the rest books and the daily NYT paper. Plenty of "older" looking folks were using e-readers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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