firemanbobswife Posted May 9, 2016 #151 Share Posted May 9, 2016 From reading the article, it seems to me what collapsed was a temporary gangway /gang plank built at the shipyard for workers to access the ship, not the more permanent gangway used at passenger cruise terminals. If someone can reference an incident where one of these collapsed, without the assistance of a multi-thousand ton cruise ship, then I might worry... Very well could be but it doesn't change the fact that I never have liked them. They still make me nervous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted May 9, 2016 #152 Share Posted May 9, 2016 So, who was actually "driving"? The Captain, the Staff Captain, or the Pilot? See my explanation here: http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showpost.php?p=49930776&postcount=43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted May 9, 2016 #153 Share Posted May 9, 2016 From reading the article, it seems to me what collapsed was a temporary gangway /gang plank built at the shipyard for workers to access the ship, not the more permanent gangway used at passenger cruise terminals. If someone can reference an incident where one of these collapsed, without the assistance of a multi-thousand ton cruise ship, then I might worry... Quite right. This was more of a scaffolding tower that is used to get from the dock floor to the top of the wing wall, and then up to where a gangway can reach the promenade deck of the ship. These things are rickety at the best of times. As mentioned in the article, usually there is a safety net installed, though this might not have helped as the whole tower collapsed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizziez00 Posted May 9, 2016 #154 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Wonder if it happened like this :eek: : http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/04/01/video-sightseeing-cruise-ship-crashes-san-diego-pier . LOL Yes...but sideways....:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock19 Posted May 9, 2016 #155 Share Posted May 9, 2016 The capt. statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coopie Posted May 9, 2016 #156 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Never once heard it was the Captain's fault as another person stated here in Baltimore on the local news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerman2 Posted May 9, 2016 #157 Share Posted May 9, 2016 OK, the ship hit it. Personally I don't really care as long as nobody got hurt. All I am saying is that I just don't consider Facebook as a news source unless it is posted by a news agency or someone official. And you take news agencies word as gospel? Some do have a tendency to sensationalize ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatieCharlotte Posted May 9, 2016 #158 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Now something else my friends who are afraid to cruise will add to their reasons why.:D Hah. I was just thinking about how walking onto the gangplank to board is the moment I relax and think nothing can go wrong to stop me from cruising. Good thing the ship has stopped moving by that point, so I should be good. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powersboyee2 Posted May 10, 2016 #159 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Welcome to Cruise Critic. :) If I have learned anything during my short time here so far, I learned that there are a lot of "experts" and honorary Captains. Lots of people posting in threads that don't have a foggy clue. And to think the couple that told me about this site on my last cruise said it was a great resource for information. :D Apparently you are unaware that Cheng is a chief naval engineer with VAST knowledge of all of this. Time to place that foot in the ol mouth. This is why I stick to RCCL even on the forums lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Dore Posted May 10, 2016 #160 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Apparently you are unaware that Cheng is a chief naval engineer with VAST knowledge of all of this. Time to place that foot in the ol mouth. This is why I stick to RCCL even on the forums lol. Not directed to you chengkp75 - you actually know what you are talking about. :) Where is your foot? :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted May 10, 2016 #161 Share Posted May 10, 2016 iJust finished reading this thread. Glad no one was on the gangway. There was just a snip-it on our local news this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troublemaker256 Posted May 10, 2016 #162 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Back in 2010 the ecstasy hit the gangway in Galveston when she was turning around in the channel. Did about $3 million in damages. We had to board via deck 0. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjn911 Posted May 10, 2016 #163 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Was busy with other things yesterday...wow,,,never are we immune to accidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy cruzin Posted May 10, 2016 #164 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Back in 2010 the ecstasy hit the gangway in Galveston when she was turning around in the channel. Did about $3 million in damages. We had to board via deck 0. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk YIKES...that's some serious damage! :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise-Crazy Posted May 10, 2016 #165 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Back in 2010 the ecstasy hit the gangway in Galveston when she was turning around in the channel. Did about $3 million in damages. We had to board via deck 0. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Ouch! 3 million! This one looks like it is not repairable. Wonder what the bill will be this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted May 10, 2016 #166 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Ouch! 3 million! This one looks like it is not repairable. Wonder what the bill will be this time. Those gangways cost several million dollars, and most are made in Europe. I would think the price tag will be similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havingfun2010 Posted May 10, 2016 #167 Share Posted May 10, 2016 So the Captain of the ship had some issues while parking and then we have all the speculation of who was at fault. The Captain is at fault. Now the only question is why Carnival has so much problems and issues parking their ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted May 10, 2016 #168 Share Posted May 10, 2016 I work at the Port. I spoke with co-workers that were there watching. I often work at the Cruise Terminal. I know the procedures that are in place. Since you work at the port, I'm hoping you can give me a little perspective here. This is just my investigative mind trying to make sense of this story. I've heard reports of the ship docking too fast and/or at the "wrong angle." Neither way explains to me how the ship hit that large gangway, which is on land and should have been in a position back from the water's edge. Exactly what part of the ship struck the gangway and how? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanpatricksmom Posted May 10, 2016 #169 Share Posted May 10, 2016 I wasn't on the ship this time, so I can't speak to what happened this sailing but I have sailed the Pride many, many times, and when docking there usually seems to be a series of attempts to line up the ship's opening to the gangway. I remember one morning in particular that it took nearly 15 minutes on a rainy, windy day. Frankly, it seemed as if both the ship and the gangway operator were trying to work in unison, so had they collided that day I don't know that anyone could have really assigned blame....not saying that's what happened here, just that they seem to often have a problem "hooking up". Maybe this is typical? I'm usually asleep when we dock at most homeports; Baltimore is the exception. I'm hardly a navigational expert, but because we get priority debarkation we're always sitting right there next to the gangway opening observing the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted May 10, 2016 #170 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Since you work at the port, I'm hoping you can give me a little perspective here. This is just my investigative mind trying to make sense of this story. I've heard reports of the ship docking too fast and/or at the "wrong angle." Neither way explains to me how the ship hit that large gangway, which is on land and should have been in a position back from the water's edge. Exactly what part of the ship struck the gangway and how? :confused: Source?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted May 10, 2016 #171 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Exactly what part of the ship struck the gangway and how? :confused: Supposedly the mooring platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted May 10, 2016 #172 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Source?? Source of what? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy cruzin Posted May 10, 2016 #173 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Since we sail in just 33 days - can't help but wonder what the plan is for access until the repairs are complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanpatricksmom Posted May 10, 2016 #174 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Since we sail in just 33 days - can't help but wonder what the plan is for access until the repairs are complete. I'm thinking RCL isn't too happy right about now either! There's an awful lot of people between the two ships that have to board and debark. It's going to be a huge mess if they don't have the old gangway sitting around somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy cruzin Posted May 10, 2016 #175 Share Posted May 10, 2016 I'm thinking RCL isn't too happy right about now either! There's an awful lot of people between the two ships that have to board and debark. It's going to be a huge mess if they don't have the old gangway sitting around somewhere. Yep - and you certainly lose the "wow" factor of entering the lobby if the plan is to enter and exit elsewhere. :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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