travelgoddess1 Posted February 24, 2017 #776 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I seem to recall it was around $800 per leg, and the Brazil to Chile was the cheapest That is incorrect. I don't know what category you thought was $800, but it was certainly not ours. Brazil to Chile was the most expensive of the 3 legs. The Florida to Brazil leg was the least expensive, and Chile to Los Angeles was in the middle. But your price makes a good story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wl2cruise Posted February 24, 2017 #777 Share Posted February 24, 2017 You guys will call me crazy. You guys will want me to be in a straight jacket for saying this. But I'm putting money a quantum class ship is coming to the west coast to do Alaska. I guarantee it. 1st is has to compete with a large size ship that NCL will put up in Alaska. And when the technology announcement was made Richard rain specifically mention both the Verazanno and Golden Gate Bridge. It's gonna happen folks. Just watch. Mark my word. Sent from my iPhone using Forums According to Adam Goldstein they do not have plans to put a Quantum class in Alaska and he also believes that class of ships cannot call at the key southeast Alaska ports. I would not be surprised if most or all of the Quantum class end up in China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted February 24, 2017 #778 Share Posted February 24, 2017 That is incorrect. I don't know what category you thought was $800, but it was certainly not ours. Brazil to Chile was the most expensive of the 3 legs. The Florida to Brazil leg was the least expensive, and Chile to Los Angeles was in the middle. But your price makes a good story. That was an inside cabin price. Some folks do sail them you know. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelgoddess1 Posted February 24, 2017 #779 Share Posted February 24, 2017 That was an inside cabin price. Some folks do sail them you know. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app $800 is about $50/night. I haven't seen those prices since shortly after 9/11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
critterchick Posted February 24, 2017 #780 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I think it will boil down to competition with other cruiselines. If they can retain their loyal following by avoiding west coast ports, which are expensive for many reasons, then they won't need to return I think that RCI doesn't care about their loyal following - they want new cruisers, who are much more likely to spend money on shore excursions, spa treatments, etc. They seem to be looking for immediate profits (to pay off some massive debt?) rather than building a base of repeat cruisers whose spending will decline over time. When I type it, I can't blame them for that. But as a passenger, I don't have to like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted February 24, 2017 #781 Share Posted February 24, 2017 $800 is about $50/night. I haven't seen those prices since shortly after 9/11. Brilliance repo in April is $549 for 14 nights. With tax it's $650 pp. $46 😱 Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted February 24, 2017 #782 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I think that RCI doesn't care about their loyal following - they want new cruisers, who are much more likely to spend money on shore excursions, spa treatments, etc. They seem to be looking for immediate profits (to pay off some massive debt?) rather than building a base of repeat cruisers whose spending will decline over time. When I type it, I can't blame them for that. But as a passenger, I don't have to like it. But aren't there plenty of potential new cruisers on west coast? It just seems odd. There must be an underlying reason Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick67 Posted February 24, 2017 #783 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norcalemt02 Posted February 24, 2017 #784 Share Posted February 24, 2017 According to Adam Goldstein they do not have plans to put a Quantum class in Alaska and he also believes that class of ships cannot call at the key southeast Alaska ports. I would not be surprised if most or all of the Quantum class end up in China. Then how can you explain Norwegian Bliss a 168,800 ton ship going to Alaska? If that ship can fit I'm sure a quantum class will fit as well. Quantum class ship has one up on bliss. It has North Star. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatMe Posted February 24, 2017 #785 Share Posted February 24, 2017 But aren't there plenty of potential new cruisers on west coast? It just seems odd. There must be an underlying reason Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Population density of the west coast just doesn't support a large cruise presence, and at least for the time being the Mexican riviera is dangerous. As much as I would love to venture west and cruise, it just doesn't make much business sense? . Sent from my SM-T800 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommykim Posted February 24, 2017 #786 Share Posted February 24, 2017 But aren't there plenty of potential new cruisers on west coast? It just seems odd. There must be an underlying reason Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app No idea if it is correct or not but I have a friend who works for Carnival who says the reason RCI left California is that ships must now use electricity instead of fuel while docked in port if it is their home port and it is very expensive to retrofit the ships to be able to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cel_cruise Posted February 24, 2017 #787 Share Posted February 24, 2017 No idea if it is correct or not but I have a friend who works for Carnival who says the reason RCI left California is that ships must now use electricity instead of fuel while docked in port if it is their home port and it is very expensive to retrofit the ships to be able to do this. Well, at least is a reason I could believe - but you would think that RCI would be building their new ships to support that capability? Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommykim Posted February 24, 2017 #788 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Well, at least is a reason I could believe - but you would think that RCI would be building their new ships to support that capability? I would love to say yeah, that makes sense but I would guess that it's very expensive to do and I very much doubt anyplace other than CA would ever require it of a ship. I could more see them retrofitting something like a Vision class if they ever do come back to California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoopster95 Posted February 24, 2017 #789 Share Posted February 24, 2017 According to Adam Goldstein they do not have plans to put a Quantum class in Alaska and he also believes that class of ships cannot call at the key southeast Alaska ports. I would not be surprised if most or all of the Quantum class end up in China. Hmmmm... I'm trying to envision how Q Class could not fit into Juneau, Skagway or Ketchikan when she's only 100ft longer than Solstice. Also the new NCL Bliss debuting in Alaska is 1082 feet while Q Class is 1138 feet, approx 50 feet difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelgoddess1 Posted February 25, 2017 #790 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Brilliance repo in April is $549 for 14 nights. With tax it's $650 pp. $46 😱 Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app That is a good price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUN33 Posted February 25, 2017 #791 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Population density of the west coast just doesn't support a large cruise presence, and at least for the time being the Mexican riviera is dangerous. As much as I would love to venture west and cruise, it just doesn't make much business sense? . Sent from my SM-T800 using Tapatalk The only way more ships are coming back to the West Coast will be if the Chinese build some new islands for us to visit. When the only ports to visit are Acapulco, Puerto Vallarta and and Cabo it just gets too repetitive. Of course, it doesn't help much when the drug gangs are shooting people in the streets of 2 of those ports. Too many better alternatives to home port a billion dollar ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzyluvs2cruise Posted February 25, 2017 #792 Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) The only way more ships are coming back to the West Coast will be if the Chinese build some new islands for us to visit. When the only ports to visit are Acapulco, Puerto Vallarta and and Cabo it just gets too repetitive. Of course, it doesn't help much when the drug gangs are shooting people in the streets of 2 of those ports. Too many better alternatives to home port a billion dollar ship. There are other options. Itinerary examples below. Tue 28/03/17 Los Angeles (CA) / USA 16:00 Wed 29/03/17 San Diego (CA) / US 07:00 16:00 Thu 30/03/17 At Sea Fri 31/03/17 Cabo San Lucas / Mexico 09:00 17:00 Sat 01/04/17 La Paz / Mexic 07:00 17:00 Sun 02/04/17 Loreto / Mexico 07:00 18:00 Mon 03/04/17 At Sea Tue 04/04/17 Puerto Vallarta / Mexico 08:00 17:00 Wed 05/04/17 At Sea Thu 06/04/17 At Sea Fri 07/04/17 Los Angeles (CA) / USA 07:00 Itinerary #2 Sun 24/09/17 Los Angeles (CA) / US 16:00 Mon 25/09/17 Santa Barbara (CA)* / USA 07:00 17:00 Tue 26/09/17 San Francisco (CA) / USA 14:00 Wed 27/09/17 San Francisco (CA) / USA\ 20:00 Thu 28/09/17 Monterey (CA)* / USA 07:00 16:00 Fri 29/09/17 Santa Catalina Island (CA)* / USA 12:00 20:00 Sat 30/09/17 Ensenada / Mexico 08:00 17:00 Sun 01/10/17 Los Angeles (CA) / USA 07:00 Itinerary #3 Sun 01/10/17 Los Angeles (CA) / USA 16:00 Mon 02/10/17 Santa Barbara (CA)* / USA 07:00 17:00 Tue 03/10/17 San Francisco (CA) / USA 16:30 Wed 04/10/17 San Francisco (CA) / USA 20:00 Thu 05/10/17 Monterey (CA)* / USA 07:00 16:00 Fri 06/10/17 At Sea Sat 07/10/17 Santa Catalina Island (CA)* / USA 08:00 17:00 Sun 08/10/17 Ensenada / Mexico 07:00 16:00 Mon 09/10/17 Los Angeles (CA) / USA 07:00 Edited February 25, 2017 by suzyluvs2cruise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coralc Posted February 25, 2017 #793 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I would love to visit Loreto and La Paz! We've never been to either one. Puerto Vallarta and Cabo are always fun stops. :D IMO it is just an excuse (money in some fashion) as to why they aren't out here, when other lines are very successful. The cruise line (like others) could do partial canal trips as Princess does. We really enjoyed a day in Huatulco on one of our cruises. The electrical hook up comment is interesting....because that is one thing about California, there are a great many air quality and pollution control laws. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONECRUISER Posted February 25, 2017 #794 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Funny you should mention that - it was because I looked on the fish site RCI listing by price per night I found the 4/14 Navigator sailing which currently has cabins starting at $38/day. Biker, whose all time bargain was the Legend TA at $25 per day. My best was 5 nite, $59 ea, 2 passengers tax included. Actual cruise cost was $9 each & $50 tax each. Total cost of $118. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted February 25, 2017 #795 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Funny you should mention that - it was because I looked on the fish site RCI listing by price per night I found the 4/14 Navigator sailing which currently has cabins starting at $38/day. Biker, whose all time bargain was the Legend TA at $25 per day. We did one of the $99 four night Sovereign sailings in October 2008. No solo supplement. There was tax on top of that though. It was one of her last sailings. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted February 25, 2017 #796 Share Posted February 25, 2017 There are other options. Itinerary examples below.Tue 28/03/17 Los Angeles (CA) / USA 16:00 Wed 29/03/17 San Diego (CA) / US 07:00 16:00 Thu 30/03/17 At Sea Fri 31/03/17 Cabo San Lucas / Mexico 09:00 17:00 Sat 01/04/17 La Paz / Mexic 07:00 17:00 Sun 02/04/17 Loreto / Mexico 07:00 18:00 Mon 03/04/17 At Sea Tue 04/04/17 Puerto Vallarta / Mexico 08:00 17:00 Wed 05/04/17 At Sea Thu 06/04/17 At Sea Fri 07/04/17 Los Angeles (CA) / USA 07:00 Itinerary #2 Sun 24/09/17 Los Angeles (CA) / US 16:00 Mon 25/09/17 Santa Barbara (CA)* / USA 07:00 17:00 Tue 26/09/17 San Francisco (CA) / USA 14:00 Wed 27/09/17 San Francisco (CA) / USA\ 20:00 Thu 28/09/17 Monterey (CA)* / USA 07:00 16:00 Fri 29/09/17 Santa Catalina Island (CA)* / USA 12:00 20:00 Sat 30/09/17 Ensenada / Mexico 08:00 17:00 Sun 01/10/17 Los Angeles (CA) / USA 07:00 Itinerary #3 Sun 01/10/17 Los Angeles (CA) / USA 16:00 Mon 02/10/17 Santa Barbara (CA)* / USA 07:00 17:00 Tue 03/10/17 San Francisco (CA) / USA 16:30 Wed 04/10/17 San Francisco (CA) / USA 20:00 Thu 05/10/17 Monterey (CA)* / USA 07:00 16:00 Fri 06/10/17 At Sea Sat 07/10/17 Santa Catalina Island (CA)* / USA 08:00 17:00 Sun 08/10/17 Ensenada / Mexico 07:00 16:00 Mon 09/10/17 Los Angeles (CA) / USA 07:00 Only one of those is a 7 day trip. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wl2cruise Posted February 25, 2017 #797 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Then how can you explain Norwegian Bliss a 168,800 ton ship going to Alaska? If that ship can fit I'm sure a quantum class will fit as well. Quantum class ship has one up on bliss. It has North Star. Sent from my iPhone using Forums I can only refer you to him for the explanation. I can only assume it has to do with the length or the draft of the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm from Oz Posted February 25, 2017 #798 Share Posted February 25, 2017 The only way more ships are coming back to the West Coast will be if the Chinese build some new islands for us to visit. When the only ports to visit are Acapulco, Puerto Vallarta and and Cabo it just gets too repetitive. Of course, it doesn't help much when the drug gangs are shooting people in the streets of 2 of those ports. Too many better alternatives to home port a billion dollar ship. Maybe the US could cut Hawaii loose and use it as the 'foreign' port ;) We are lucky in Australia to have 'the islands' to cruise out to, but it gets repetitive too. I have the same beef about the sameness of RCI's itineraries here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm from Oz Posted February 25, 2017 #799 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I can only refer you to him for the explanation. I can only assume it has to do with the length or the draft of the ship. Ovation has been successfully been operating Downunder for this season. We have very shallow ports in places and Milford Sound is pretty tight, but Ovation managed. Alaska shouldn't be a problem - not that I'm in any way shape or form qualified to make such a judgement :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coralc Posted February 25, 2017 #800 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Alaska shouldn't be a problem - not that I'm in any way shape or form qualified to make such a judgement :rolleyes: Alaska is really gorgeous. Whales, Bald Eagles, Otters, Seals and Bears and other wildlife. The mountains are snow capped like New Zealand. No idea about ship size and ports. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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