GUT2407 Posted December 6, 2016 #51 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Ah but did you consider that the hallucination was actually you in the hospital bed saying to the doctor that you weren't hallucinating? But I didn't get them and he promised I would. Like when they put me on a drug and explained it was the most common date rape drug, did I get raped???? No, not even molested by the wonderful Mrs Gut, don't trust doctors that's my motto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6666oz Posted December 6, 2016 #52 Share Posted December 6, 2016 It's remarks like this that contributes to my inability to take 99% of the posts on this forum too seriously Are we supposed to be serious here :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrs and mrs Posted December 6, 2016 #53 Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) Someone must be taking it seriously, my post got taken down A------GAIN, Not even offensive at all Probably some squeezer with an agenda.:):) At least its keeping some-one busy. Edited December 6, 2016 by mrs and mrs I had to put a space in between squezer and with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makawe Posted December 6, 2016 #54 Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) Xxx Edited December 6, 2016 by makawe Chickened out of x-rated response to Mr Gut, and didn't want to get an a*** kicking by Mrs Gut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrs and mrs Posted December 6, 2016 #55 Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) Xxx Lol, was good, wonder how many saw it. Should I copy and paste it. haha. NNNoOOOO :eek: Edited December 6, 2016 by mrs and mrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docker123 Posted December 6, 2016 #56 Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) I must admit, I am getting a little nervous about being on a voyage with Mr Gut. Cunard security had better be good. And I am a bloke. Then again, I was going to ask the specialist tomorrow if he could reduce some of my meds. Edited December 6, 2016 by Docker123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tassie cruiser Posted December 6, 2016 #57 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Lol, was good, wonder how many saw it.Should I copy and paste it. haha. NNNoOOOO :eek: Yessssssssss. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loulou01 Posted December 11, 2016 #58 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I welcome the change, We always prepay our gratuities and actually think if everyone did we'd have lower fares not higher. The estimated 30% who do pay the gratuities subsidise those who don't. Just my opinion. Sent from my iPad using Forums mobile app I Feel that you are subsidizing the company by paying gratuities! I am probably going to be abused here. I feel that the companies should pay their staff a proper wage. The cruise companies overheads should include wages. They would not be able to run a business without these people. They are not something that should be marketed as an extra service. When I go on a holiday I want to relax and not worry about tipping. People say you are ripping off the service off by not paying tips when the first and biggest rip off are the cruise companies not paying the a proper wage and keeping more profits. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanb41 Posted December 11, 2016 #59 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I Feel that you are subsidizing the company by paying gratuities! I am probably going to be abused here. I feel that the companies should pay their staff a proper wage. The cruise companies overheads should include wages. They would not be able to run a business without these people. They are not something that should be marketed as an extra service. When I go on a holiday I want to relax and not worry about tipping. People say you are ripping off the service off by not paying tips when the first and biggest rip off are the cruise companies not paying the a proper wage and keeping more profits. Sent from my iPhone using Forums YOu are 100% correct in your comment that we are subsidising the wages of the crew. However that is the American way not the way of those of us downunder. Whereas Americans are used to a cost plus we are not. I still believe that even with Americans now having to pay compulsory gratuities on downunder ships many will pay extra. What this change means is that we will no longer be able to use "free Gratuities" as a perk which in fact will raise the cost per passenger by around $150 depending where one is going, length of cruise and exchange rates at time of booking. That said if gratuities are to automatically included one should be able to get one of the other three perks on offer as a matter of course under the go big go better. There is no longer a go best for us. I did a dummy booking of a 12 day GBR cruise in March a week or so ago and will repeat it again next week once the new regime is in place and I will be interested to see what the results are. I will publish the results here about the middle of the week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted December 11, 2016 #60 Share Posted December 11, 2016 When in Rome...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Big_M Posted December 11, 2016 #61 Share Posted December 11, 2016 YOu are 100% correct in your comment that we are subsidising the wages of the crew. However that is the American way not the way of those of us downunder. Whereas Americans are used to a cost plus we are not. I still believe that even with Americans now having to pay compulsory gratuities on downunder ships many will pay extra. What this change means is that we will no longer be able to use "free Gratuities" as a perk which in fact will raise the cost per passenger by around $150 depending where one is going, length of cruise and exchange rates at time of booking. That said if gratuities are to automatically included one should be able to get one of the other three perks on offer as a matter of course under the go big go better. There is no longer a go best for us. I did a dummy booking of a 12 day GBR cruise in March a week or so ago and will repeat it again next week once the new regime is in place and I will be interested to see what the results are. I will publish the results here about the middle of the week Spot on. If you wouldn't mind, could you also check a cruise outside AU/NZ e.g. the med or Caribbean. I'd be interested to see what pricing changes happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyinmacksville Posted December 11, 2016 #62 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Yes anyone would think that its a self imposed jail sentence they put on themselves. Or get on that ship and work for peanuts NOW. Oh ok, under sufferance. And ill still maintain that a lot of aussies tip extra on aus base cruises that have grats included and dont, no matter what those across the pacific, think or say. I always pay the day charge plus I tip extra to those that provide excellent service. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted December 11, 2016 #63 Share Posted December 11, 2016 The bookings will be slightly more to start with but I think the supply and demand factors will still play a part in pricing as the cruise sells (or doesn't). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springaussie Posted December 11, 2016 #64 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Booking a cruise on the Royal Caribbean Australian website this morning for travel after 15 January 2017 includes gratuities. Does not matter if it leaves from Brisbane, Sydney, Fort Lauderdale or Southampton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mr walker Posted December 11, 2016 #65 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Booking a cruise on the Royal Caribbean Australian website this morning for travel after 15 January 2017 includes gratuities.Does not matter if it leaves from Brisbane, Sydney, Fort Lauderdale or Southampton. Well that's a little different to what was in the 'release', where it specifically referred to "Australian & New Zealand sailings", not to bookings from Australians & New Zealanders. Website error?? Miscommunication?? Going to be interesting if all sailings, irrespective of where to or from, or nationality of customer, have T&G's included in fares. If we think that Trump's election has made an impact, wait until included T&G's hits the old US of A :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanb41 Posted December 12, 2016 #66 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I have just done a dummy booking for Europe next year via the NZ Celebrity website and gratuities are included in the base package automatically leaving me only a choice of 3 for the go big, go better, go best perk promotion. Whilst the decision meets our cultural differences down under it does remove an option that we had previously. In addition to any other increases compulsory payment of gratuities will add between $250 and $400 to the cost of a cruise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted December 13, 2016 #67 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I have just done a dummy booking for Europe next year via the NZ Celebrity website and gratuities are included in the base package automatically leaving me only a choice of 3 for the go big, go better, go best perk promotion. Whilst the decision meets our cultural differences down under it does remove an option that we had previously. In addition to any other increases compulsory payment of gratuities will add between $250 and $400 to the cost of a cruise Thanks for testing that for us. Limiting the perks is fine, I do not care one way or the other. The one big thing is that it frees up some OBC to be used on other ship board spending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted December 13, 2016 #68 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I just purchased my RC cruise two days ago, it asked me if I wanted to incorporate gratuities into the fare. I chose yes, because if you choose no, they will still add the gratuities onto your daily tab and you'll simply have to pay it at the end. So, you CAN choose not to incorporate it into your upfront fare, but why would you? I booked a 14 day cruise and the gratuities was 400 something, I didn't think it horribly over the top or unjust. I'd rather it in the fare than pay as a bill at the end ! Sent from my iPhone using Forums Because if you have any OBC it can be used to defray the cost of the gratuities if posted to your seapass account but not if you pre-pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell21 Posted December 13, 2016 #69 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Because if you have any OBC it can be used to defray the cost of the gratuities if posted to your seapass account but not if you pre-pay. Drinking your OBC is far more enjoyable.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted December 13, 2016 #70 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) Drinking your OBC is far more enjoyable.;) Agreed, I have sometimes done both.:D Edited December 13, 2016 by MicCanberra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted December 13, 2016 #71 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) Drinking your OBC is far more enjoyable.;) But when you have a drink package there isn't much to spend OBC on that is of any interest to me. I have all the RCI Logo stuff that I could possibly need and I don't do specialty restaurants. I guess I could wait to buy the drink package until on board but I like to buy when I catch them on sale. Edited December 13, 2016 by Ocean Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted December 14, 2016 #72 Share Posted December 14, 2016 But when you have a drink package there isn't much to spend OBC on that is of any interest to me. I have all the RCI Logo stuff that I could possibly need and I don't do specialty restaurants. I guess I could wait to buy the drink package until on board but I like to buy when I catch them on sale. There is always the casino or an excursion or the spa or a photo package or a new watch, or a piece of art (print).:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatman61 Posted December 14, 2016 #73 Share Posted December 14, 2016 OK I decided to test this for myself. I did a dummy booking for our same cruise on Ovation in April 2018 & found that the price difference (not exact same room but same category room) has gone up by $758.36 which is more than the Cost of Gratuities that we have deferred to pay onboard. That is for 2 adults & a 12 yo. Sent from my GT-I9507 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Big_M Posted December 14, 2016 #74 Share Posted December 14, 2016 It sounds like you are comparing against a booking you already have, possibly made some time ago? When did you get the price without gratuities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatman61 Posted December 14, 2016 #75 Share Posted December 14, 2016 We made our booking about 8-9 weeks ago while a similar promotion was on as to what is on at the moment. Sent from my GT-I9507 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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