bogofman Posted January 14, 2017 #76 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Too bad. You just don't get it. Just don't expect the service that I get each and every time. Come to the UK and get great service, well the same as I get in US bars , without the need of a tip. And you can get great value for your $, with the current exchange rates, Also the price you see on the ticket is the price you pay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted January 14, 2017 #77 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Then whoever gives $2 will get better service [emoji3] I have no issues with tipping, but I do think the automatic gratuity on drinks is a tricky subject. If I order a special drink (like a mixed drink, or a frozen drink) then I'll toss another buck or two on top of the total. 18% to hand me a bottle of water seems out of line honestly. Doesn't matter since I can't do anything about it! I always prepay my gratuities and I always give our room attendant anywhere from $50 - $100 as soon as we board. I'm an ice freak and always want ice in my room so I ask them to keep it full all week. Never had an issue. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Yet again I don't give my Steward anything on boarding and never had an issue keeping my ice full. Refilled at least twice a day, hot days more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare vacationlover_mn Posted January 14, 2017 #78 Share Posted January 14, 2017 They loved me in the U.K. I was there in a work trip, always tipped 20% :). They'd look shocked. One lady even said that is too much! Lower it! #LovedBerwick :) Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorben-Hendrik Posted January 14, 2017 #79 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Canuk- I shouldn't be saying this, cuz it's my newest trick I learned ;). On Labadee, my friend got up early, got off the ship asap, and hurried to an awesome spot on the beach that had sun and shade. She asked a worker, can you set this area up for 4 of us, and watch over us today? She is southern, sweet, nice, charming, AND she tipped him. He set us up, got us floaty mats, and took care of us all day :). At the end of the day we tipped him too. We had a fantastic time, in a great location, for 4 of us, for under $50 :) Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app This is how the viscous cycle starts......next time - he will demand 70$:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted January 14, 2017 #80 Share Posted January 14, 2017 They loved me in the U.K. I was there in a work trip, always tipped 20% :). They'd look shocked. One lady even said that is too much! Lower it! #LovedBerwick :) Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app So much for "when in Rome". Wonder if ant of the tip fanatics that would abuse anyone who said "we don't tip at home so don't on a cruise" will say anything about you. Mmmm I suspect not. It's only a one way street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted January 14, 2017 #81 Share Posted January 14, 2017 On Harmony we used to like to sit on Central park on a night time and used our Diamond allowance here. I left 5 dollars each night when I got our glasses of champagne.On the second night onwards they just gave me a bottle of champagne instead of making a few trips to the bar. I never once saw anyone else leave a cash tip. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goofyisme Posted January 14, 2017 #82 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Have never given a bribe on a ship (or anywhere else for that matter) and have always gotten wonderful service, which of course is properly rewarded at the end of the cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mek Posted January 14, 2017 #83 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Yes there is its immoral. Just what do you do when having bribed the bar staff and you don't get the level of service you expect. Ask for the bribe back. I'm so glad I live in a country where we don't tip bar staff and instead pay them a proper wage. Immoral - really? I'm glad you're proud of your country, but I'm also proud of mine and see no problem with tipping - it's the way we do it and the tip or not to tip debate will probably go on forever. I do suggest that anyone who is so offended by it to put tipping in the immoral category, should probably sail on non US lines in order to have a less stressful experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippintex Posted January 15, 2017 #84 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Immoral - really? I'm glad you're proud of your country, but I'm also proud of mine and see no problem with tipping - it's the way we do it and the tip or not to tip debate will probably go on forever. I do suggest that anyone who is so offended by it to put tipping in the immoral category, should probably sail on non US lines in order to have a less stressful experience. you are so right pay it foward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted January 15, 2017 #85 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Immoral - really? I'm glad you're proud of your country, but I'm also proud of mine and see no problem with tipping - it's the way we do it and the tip or not to tip debate will probably go on forever. I do suggest that anyone who is so offended by it to put tipping in the immoral category, should probably sail on non US lines in order to have a less stressful experience. And maybe those from the USA need to stop abusing anyone who says they don't tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted January 15, 2017 #86 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Immoral - really? I'm glad you're proud of your country, but I'm also proud of mine and see no problem with tipping - it's the way we do it and the tip or not to tip debate will probably go on forever. I do suggest that anyone who is so offended by it to put tipping in the immoral category, should probably sail on non US lines in order to have a less stressful experience. In fact, Dinglebert never said that tipping was immoral. "Handing over money before is not a tip its a bribe", and it was this bribery that he judged to be immoral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinglebert Posted January 15, 2017 #87 Share Posted January 15, 2017 In fact, Dinglebert never said that tipping was immoral. "Handing over money before is not a tip its a bribe", and it was this bribery that he judged to be immoral. Thank you. Thats exactly what I said. I always happily tip the expected amount, because I see that as part of the deal. What I will not do is take part in tip inflation. If I have paid my tips upfront as part of the holiday purchase then I believe I have fulfilled my end of the agreement. I then expect staff to do their jobs and not to have a metaphorical hand out to get another tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted January 15, 2017 #88 Share Posted January 15, 2017 The cruise lines are at fault because they demand a certain amount and that should be it but no they then encourage you to tip extra which the crew then take as an opportunity to fleece more money out of you. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDawg Posted January 15, 2017 #89 Share Posted January 15, 2017 I have had cruises where I tipped extra to a lot of servers, I have had cruises where I tipped extra to only a few of the crew. And I have had cruises where I didn't tip extra at all. It all depended on the service. I don't care what others do because that is their business, not mine. I have never felt pressure from the crew or the cruise line to tip extra. (I don't consider an extra line for tips on a bar receipt 'pressure', that's more like good advertising) I have also pre-tipped extra a few times. I figure, I have already prepaid for the cruise expecting a good experience why not pre-pay the extra tips from time to time, expecting the same thing. If pre-paying some tips is truly immoral and Saint Peter blocks my way through the Pearly Gates because I pre-paid a few people in my life, I'll just have to have an extra fiver or two with me for a little inducement.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mek Posted January 15, 2017 #90 Share Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) Thank you. Thats exactly what I said. I always happily tip the expected amount, because I see that as part of the deal. What I will not do is take part in tip inflation. If I have paid my tips upfront as part of the holiday purchase then I believe I have fulfilled my end of the agreement. I then expect staff to do their jobs and not to have a metaphorical hand out to get another tip. Sorry, that's not how I took it, but I do apologize if I misunderstood what you considered to be immoral. However, I will take exception with the general attitude from people who live in countries that don't tip and pay a higher wage, that their system is somehow better and morally superior to ours. It's just different and it works for them just like tipping works for us. Edited January 15, 2017 by mek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mek Posted January 15, 2017 #91 Share Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) And maybe those from the USA need to stop abusing anyone who says they don't tip. Well I think you're being overly sensitive with the word abuse. Lively debates are the norm on CC, with some people who are rude and insensitive on both sides of the issue - just like life. It all comes down to the customs in each country. When people come here, or cruise on a US line, they should tip, it's the way things work. If I travel to your country, I read up and make sure I understand what is expected of me as a guest. I personally do have a problem with people who say they aren't going to tip just because they don't do it at home, but I am entitled to my opinion, just as you are to yours. Edited January 15, 2017 by mek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkacmom Posted January 15, 2017 #92 Share Posted January 15, 2017 And maybe those from the USA need to stop abusing anyone who says they don't tip. I think it's fine not to tip extra on a cruise, but if you are in the US, and go to a bar or restaurant, you should know that a tip is expected. Your bill would be higher if the establishment paid their staff more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Computer Nerd Posted January 15, 2017 #93 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Handing over money before is not a tip its a bribe. Its saying treat me better than the person next to me. Nothing wrong with that. It works. A former LEO saying there is nothing wrong with a bribe? That's almost frightening! :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Computer Nerd Posted January 15, 2017 #94 Share Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) Then its the people that give $2 that get special treatment. When everyone gives $2, then its the ones that give $5. I guess the people that tip for preferential treatment should be happy there are people that tip 0.0. Everyone tips the 18% mandatory tip whether they want to or not. It's the extra tipping to get preferential treatment that is the problem (IMO). Edited January 15, 2017 by Computer Nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted January 15, 2017 #95 Share Posted January 15, 2017 My point earlier the cruise lines need to stop saying feel free to tip more as the crew and passengers then think the tip is not enough. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDawg Posted January 15, 2017 #96 Share Posted January 15, 2017 My point earlier the cruise lines need to stop saying feel free to tip more as the crew and passengers then think the tip is not enough. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Whether or not the cruise lines say 'feel free to tip more' the crew will ALWAYS think the tip is not enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkacmom Posted January 15, 2017 #97 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Everyone tips the 18% mandatory tip whether they want to or not. It's the extra tipping to get preferential treatment that is the problem (IMO). Is it? You are free to tip extra, as well. It can make a difference in crowded areas, especially with so many with the beverage package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted January 15, 2017 #98 Share Posted January 15, 2017 I have spoken to crew many times and they think that you are rich if you can afford to cruise and that's why they work out ways to get more money from you. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired LEO Posted January 15, 2017 #99 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Everyone tips the 18% mandatory tip whether they want to or not. It's the extra tipping to get preferential treatment that is the problem (IMO). Not a problem at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorben-Hendrik Posted January 15, 2017 #100 Share Posted January 15, 2017 And maybe those from the USA need to stop abusing anyone who says they don't tip. +1 But the US always thinks they get the best deal when they dish out money...:D:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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