CoW mAn Posted January 31, 2017 #26 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Affected people will not be allowed to board ships until the EO is over. From what I've heard the EO is indefinite with regards to Syria and I've read reports that the administration could be looking at extensions both in duration and countries included - when asked how the 7 countries were selected when more terrorists had come from the UK or France than some of those selected the response was that they would be looking at expanding the list - so it could include France and UK in the future. They also keep going back and forth on dual citizenship and green card holders with different members of the administration giving different answers to the same questions. Also several judges have ruled against the order making it unenforceable but that seems to be a fluid situation. Personally I'd like updates from the company I plan on travelling with. Seems like a lot of uncertainty to me. Regardless of all that, I imagine people denied boarding are going to complain and that will take up staff time to address. There have been protests at airports, do the cruise lines have a plan to deal with any protests that might happen at port? I'm saying I'm concerned about delays, what the cruise lines are saying is nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyboy Posted January 31, 2017 #27 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Affected people will not be allowed to board ships until the EO is over. How about the cruise ship's officers and crew affected, if any. I guess they will just not be allowed to get off the ship in US ports? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoW mAn Posted January 31, 2017 #28 Share Posted January 31, 2017 How about the cruise ship's officers and crew affected, if any. I guess they will just not be allowed to get off the ship in US ports? I'm very curious about this as well - what if getting off the ship is part of their job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyboy Posted February 1, 2017 #29 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I'm very curious about this as well - what if getting off the ship is part of their job? Those that deal or coordinate with the Coast Guard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfaaa Posted February 1, 2017 #30 Share Posted February 1, 2017 How about the cruise ship's officers and crew affected, if any. I guess they will just not be allowed to get off the ship in US ports? Transfer them to work on Asian or European cruise ships. There are alternatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoW mAn Posted February 1, 2017 #31 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Those that deal or coordinate with the Coast Guard? Or restock the ship, check people in, move luggage, coordinate with customs, or even greeters and crowd control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamessemaj Posted February 1, 2017 #32 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Lots of confusion it seems. Maybe some of this discussion in the White House would have been helpful before the EO was issued, not to mention some heads up to affected entities. I have a US passport, but I am sorry for the victims of the EO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallasm Posted February 1, 2017 #33 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Transfer them to work on Asian or European cruise ships. There are alternatives. Not many cruise ships (if any) operating in Europe at this time of the year - majority sailing Caribbean cruise during winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDawg Posted February 1, 2017 #34 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Transfer them to work on Asian or European cruise ships. There are alternatives. Not many cruise ships (if any) operating in Europe at this time of the year - majority sailing Caribbean cruise during winter. One alternative would be to just terminate their contracts and replace them with staff from countries not affected by the ban. I am not sure what the actual provisions are in the employment contracts, but if they are anything like our cruise contracts ........:( If that happened I highly doubt a cruise line would make a big announcement about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calliopecruiser Posted February 1, 2017 #35 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Not many cruise ships (if any) operating in Europe at this time of the year - majority sailing Caribbean cruise during winter. That's true for the US based cruise lines, but some of the cruise line parent companies are really global, there are other lines (like P&O or Cunard, both owned by Carnival) that are sailing in places without US ports - including Europe, S.America, and Asia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted February 1, 2017 #36 Share Posted February 1, 2017 How about the cruise ship's officers and crew affected, if any. I guess they will just not be allowed to get off the ship in US ports? I don't recall ever seeing ships crew from the 7 affected countries. I'm not saying they don't exist. I'm just saying I don't think this is much of an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calliopecruiser Posted February 1, 2017 #37 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I don't recall ever seeing ships crew from the 7 affected countries. I'm not saying they don't exist. I'm just saying I don't think this is much of an issue. But the truth is that passengers don't see a lot of the crew......much of the crew is in out-of-sight places dealing with things like mechanics, laundry, ships stores, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted February 1, 2017 #38 Share Posted February 1, 2017 But the truth is that passengers don't see a lot of the crew......much of the crew is in out-of-sight places dealing with things like mechanics, laundry, ships stores, etc. 24 years in the USCG. I've seen a lot of crew. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Smokeyham Posted February 1, 2017 Author #39 Share Posted February 1, 2017 OP (Original Poster) here, Thanks for everyone's thoughts! My question was really intended to ask if anyone had received a statement or notification from their cruise line regarding any changes or impacts from the ban. My suspicion is that there are not many crew or passengers from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen and so the lines are probably dealing with people from the affected countries on an individual basis. If anyone does receive a notice from their cruise line, it would be interesting to read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine5715 Posted February 1, 2017 #40 Share Posted February 1, 2017 From what I've heard the EO is indefinite with regards to Syria and I've read reports that the administration could be looking at extensions both in duration and countries included - when asked how the 7 countries were selected when more terrorists had come from the UK or France than some of those selected the response was that they would be looking at expanding the list - so it could include France and UK in the future. They also keep going back and forth on dual citizenship and green card holders with different members of the administration giving different answers to the same questions. Also several judges have ruled against the order making it unenforceable but that seems to be a fluid situation. Personally I'd like updates from the company I plan on travelling with. Seems like a lot of uncertainty to me. Regardless of all that, I imagine people denied boarding are going to complain and that will take up staff time to address. There have been protests at airports, do the cruise lines have a plan to deal with any protests that might happen at port? I'm saying I'm concerned about delays, what the cruise lines are saying is nothing. The cruise lines won't need to worry about protesters in debark ports. Port Authority will restrict entry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Smokeyham Posted February 1, 2017 Author #41 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Regardless of all that, I imagine people denied boarding are going to complain and that will take up staff time to address. There have been protests at airports, do the cruise lines have a plan to deal with any protests that might happen at port? I'm saying I'm concerned about delays, what the cruise lines are saying is nothing. The cruise lines won't need to worry about protesters in debark ports. Port Authority will restrict entry. I know that in a city such as San Francisco, the outside of the cruise port terminal is open to the public, so protests could affect people embarking or disembarking. However, cruises have not been the focus of protesters, so probably a moot point at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfaaa Posted February 1, 2017 #42 Share Posted February 1, 2017 The cruise lines won't need to worry about protesters in debark ports. Port Authority will restrict entry. Protesters better don't mess with thousands of hungry, agitated and thirsty cruisers who can't wait to hit the bar and Lido buffet. It can get ugly real fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Smokeyham Posted February 1, 2017 Author #43 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Protesters better don't mess with thousands of hungry, agitated and thirsty cruisers who can't wait to hit the bar and Lido buffet. It can get ugly real fast. Very true! You don't want to get between cruisers and the buffet! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyboy Posted February 2, 2017 #44 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Protesters better don't mess with thousands of hungry, agitated and thirsty cruisers who can't wait to hit the bar and Lido buffet. It can get ugly real fast. That would be riot!:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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