Any hints to effective gambling on cruise ships?

[juju2454]

I feel that the slots pay more often at the beginning of the cruise and tighten up towards the end.

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I found just the opposite ;p go figure lol. I played $5 at a time, total of 15$ all said, and won $50 and that back.

On one cruise at the last night we played craps, started with $10 left with $85. so it is a hit or miss I guess, but I agree with one poster, craps isn't fun unless it is a good group around the table...;)

Edited January 24, 2018 by juju2454

[proggieus]

I had played a favorite slot machine all week. On the last night I was packing my suitcase to put it in the hall. My mom finished quickly and said I'll see you in the casino. Before I finished packing she came back and told me she hit big on my machine!

 

 

 

 

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and to think, had she been even 1 millisecond either before or after the exact time she had pressed the button she would have not won the prize.

 

It had nothing to do with it being the end of the cruise, the start of the cruise, the fact that you played that machine all week or any other event.

 

the machine generates thousands of random numbers a second, what ever number is in its memory at the exact moment you press the button determines the outcome of the spin-

 

 

one or two numbers out of every million will equate to a jackpot

 

a few hundred numbers will equate to a big prize ,

 

a few hundred thousands of numbers will equate to smaller prizes

 

the prize distribution will equal whatever house advantage the casino wants to achieve over the life of the machine.

 

the machine does not care how often it has hit or not hit-

 

every number it generates is completly unrelated to the numbers before it or the numbers after it,

 

 

its just like roulette -

 

it does not matter the it has been red 18 times in a row, neither the wheel or the ball knows this. it has the same ~46.4% chance of being red or black on the next spin as any other spin.

[juju2454]

At a land based casino, Craps is the best way to get free drinks without much risk. We can play for a couple hours and either win a few bucks or not lose very much. Usually the drinks far outweigh the costs of any losses. The Craps machine is a blast with a few friends.

 

 

In our casinos all drinks are free be is tables or slots, we have free drinks the whole time...;)

[cruisinfanatic]

Since there are more 10s in the deck, you are more likely to get a 10, making your 16 turn into 2x 18s.

 

Also, if you get a low card, you can hit again. And a 2 or 3 on an 8 gives you the chance to double that one. An ace can lead to a double with the proper dealer up card.

 

So Ace, 2, 3, possibly double. 4, 5, 6 a better hit than your 16. 7, not really any worse off than hitting your 16. Another 8, split again. 9 or 10 (4x 10 cards), and you have a better hand that you did, without busting.

 

And 16 is a likely bust hand, as anything more than a 5 busts. LOTS of cards in the deck over 5.

 

You play like you believe, but the statistical odds are to split 8 and aces.

 

But people that play what they FEEL is right, pay for the casino. :D

Just as easy for the dealer to get that 10 too making 2 losing hands

Why would you double with a dealer 10?

2 8's are a bad hand against dealer 10 no matter how you play them

[proggieus]

It is based on play and cash used to buy in.

 

So one trick is to cash out your chips every time you leave the casino, then buy in again when you return.

 

Also, it seems points accrue faster on slots versus table games.

 

Last cruise, there was a listing of what you get for X amount of points.

 

for table games they should rate your play based on the amount you are betting x the avg number bets resolver per hour x house advantage for that game.

 

you will gain points faster on roulette since it averages a house advantage of 5.26% then craps or BJ since both are sub 1.5% house advantage with proper play.

 

and the odds bets on craps do no count toward your rating since there is 0 H/A on that bet.

[Tatka]

There is no such thing as effective gambling (my husband agrees even though he won a down payment for our first house in casino)

There are rules to protect yourself more.

 

The best bet to be successful is to designate an amount you are ready to lose. For example $200. (you can have a limit for every day) If you win then keep playing, if you lost then leave. Never try to win lost money back by using more money!

 

Also play better odds games like Black Jack. Casino still has an upper hand, but your chances are higher than when playing other games. Never play slot machines!!!!

[proggieus]

In our casinos all drinks are free be is tables or slots, we have free drinks the whole time...;)

 

 

yes, but craps has the lowest house advantage af any game in the casino-

 

so for every doller bet you will lose less of it.(in the long run)

[Tatka]

Yes..craps have the lowest advantage (we don’t play it though), and Blackjack is the second (52/48?)

 

The only problem with blackjack is ... in land based casinos usually there are tables with very high bids (like $100) which don’t or rarely attract people who don’t know rules. Ships don’t have them.

And they can break a table with wrong tactics like betting against dealers “6” .

[NeonMoon]

6/5 Blackjack payouts at tables and video, dealers hit soft 17, 80% slot payout. Good Luck! You are going to need plenty of it to beat those odds.

 

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[maui traveler]

If losing is a effective way to get future cruise offers then my wife loves to lose a couple hundred at the slots...every cruise. It's triggered HAL to extend casino rates the past year. Some rock bottom prices, but the awful weather last fall stopped us from taking advantage of this offering. Maybe this spring?

 

 

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[Tatka]

6/5 Blackjack payouts at tables and video, dealers hit soft 17, 80% slot payout. Good Luck! You are going to need plenty of it to beat those odds.

 

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Есть rule with soft 17 increase house advantage ( not used in land casinos) , but still...

[proggieus]

Есть rule with soft 17 increase house advantage ( not used in land casinos) , but still...

 

 

the 6-5 payout really kills it-

 

brings it to about 2% with perfect play

[SRF]

Just as easy for the dealer to get that 10 too making 2 losing hands

Why would you double with a dealer 10?

2 8's are a bad hand against dealer 10 no matter how you play them

 

You don't double, you split.

 

Those are the odds. You can play the odds or not. But if you do not play the odds, you are giving the house money. PERIOD.

 

And no matter how you try to spin it, the odds say split.

 

Again backed by a LOT of research.

[SRF]

There is no such thing as effective gambling (my husband agrees even though he won a down payment for our first house in casino)

There are rules to protect yourself more.

 

The best bet to be successful is to designate an amount you are ready to lose. For example $200. (you can have a limit for every day) If you win then keep playing, if you lost then leave. Never try to win lost money back by using more money!

 

Also play better odds games like Black Jack. Casino still has an upper hand, but your chances are higher than when playing other games. Never play slot machines!!!!

 

Agreed. My daily limit is $100. That is the price of a ticket to Disney for one day.

 

Black Jack and Craps, if played properly, are the lowest house percentage. Less than 1% typically.

 

Slots typically have a house advantage of at least 10% and some places as high as 35% house edge.

 

That said, my wife used to make money off slots and video blackjack.

[SRF]

The only problem with blackjack is ... in land based casinos usually there are tables with very high bids (like $100) which don’t or rarely attract people who don’t know rules. Ships don’t have them.

And they can break a table with wrong tactics like betting against dealers “6” .

 

That is not correct.

 

It does not matter what the other players do, if you play properly, the odds are the same.

 

For every time they cause you to lose a hand that you could have won, you will win a hand that you would have lost.

 

Therefore, no reason to worry or be upset about other people's play.

[SRF]

6/5 Blackjack payouts at tables and video, dealers hit soft 17, 80% slot payout. Good Luck! You are going to need plenty of it to beat those odds.

 

6-5 gives the house a 1.39% edge. That is a huge difference. But you can go to the $25 table where they do a 2 deck game and pay 3-2 (both are player advantage).

 

Hitting Soft 17 (common in the US), is a 0.22% house edge.

 

There are a lot of things they could do to make it worse on the player. Like European casinos, the dealer takes their hole card after everyone plays. So you may end up splitting or doubling and THEN the dealer gets blackjack.

 

They do allow doubling after splitting, which is a 0.14% player advantage. They allow resplitting of non-aces, that is 0.10% player advantage.

[SRF]

Есть rule with soft 17 increase house advantage ( not used in land casinos) , but still...

 

Hitting soft 17 is common in every Vegas and Atlantic City casino I have played in.

[dkjretired]

and to think, had she been even 1 millisecond either before or after the exact time she had pressed the button she would have not won the prize.

 

It had nothing to do with it being the end of the cruise, the start of the cruise, the fact that you played that machine all week or any other event.

 

the machine generates thousands of random numbers a second, what ever number is in its memory at the exact moment you press the button determines the outcome of the spin-

 

 

one or two numbers out of every million will equate to a jackpot

 

a few hundred numbers will equate to a big prize ,

 

a few hundred thousands of numbers will equate to smaller prizes

 

the prize distribution will equal whatever house advantage the casino wants to achieve over the life of the machine.

 

the machine does not care how often it has hit or not hit-

 

every number it generates is completly unrelated to the numbers before it or the numbers after it,

 

 

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Very good post, have seen this over the years, winning on first day, last day, whenever which means the cruiseline has the ability to change the odds of winning. This is the #1 Myth of slot machines. All one has to do is look up RNG in Casinos on the internet and everything is clear.

[Tatka]

Hitting soft 17 is common in every Vegas and Atlantic City casino I have played in.

 

 

Interesting...

Not in our New England (Connecticut) casinos Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun.

[adjoankora]

So does RCCL give free slots play as noted above on all ships?

 

We got free slots on Allure in Oct 2017.

[SRF]

Interesting...

Not in our New England (Connecticut) casinos Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun.

 

They nail you other ways.

 

Vegas strip rules used to be very player friendly (re-split aces, surrender, etc), except for the hitting soft 17.

 

Now, not so much. Some tables are 6 to 5, no surrender, no re-splitting aces.

[grapau27]

As D+ there are free goes at the casino but we have never used them.

When we used to have the Diamond booklets we would give unused vouchers to fellow D members in the DL if they asked us.

[later]

As D+ there are free goes at the casino but we have never used them.

When we used to have the Diamond booklets we would give unused vouchers to fellow D members in the DL if they asked us.

 

 

 

Unfortunately the only thing you get now is coins to use in a specific slot machine. D+ gets 3 coins. They use to give $5 match play but that is long gone.

 

 

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[Clarea]

... They use to give $5 match play but that is long gone.

Yeah, someone posted here how to beat the system all the time with the match play. They were gone not long after that.

[SirRedman]

Unfortunately the only thing you get now is coins to use in a specific slot machine. D+ gets 3 coins. They use to give $5 match play but that is long gone.

 

 

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First time cruiser here, what's a "D+"?