Rare puppycanducruise Posted April 18, 2018 #26 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Certainly not afraid to fly! I'm more afraid that I'll die sitting on my sofa when I'm old and frail and wishing I'd traveled to exotic and far away places. So that's what we do......embrace life! I agree. Life's short - enjoy what you can! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger_77 Posted April 18, 2018 #27 Share Posted April 18, 2018 If we didn't fly, we wouldn't likely cruise. It's a long drive from the frozen tundra to Florida for any Caribbean trips, and our SUV doesn't have pontoons or a sail, so getting to Europe for a trans-Atlantic experience wouldn't be a go, either. If something disastrous does happen while we're on a flight and it means our demise, then I'd rather go on a holiday than be hit by a car at the edge of my driveway while taking out the trash. Smooth Sailing! :) :) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ine Posted April 18, 2018 #28 Share Posted April 18, 2018 In a very unfortunate incident today, the left engine of a Southwest Airlines jet exploded in flight. Shrapnel was propelled through the airplane's skin and entered the cabin. One passenger lost his life. Stuff happens. No doubt about it. This is an isolated incident in Southwest's excellent safety record. That being said, does this make you think again about flying to port, especially going over seas? No absolutely not. Thousands and thousands of flights daily all over the world without problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KroozNut Posted April 18, 2018 #29 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I'm more concerned about what 60 Minutes reported on their show last Sunday about Allegiant Air. https://www.cbs.com/shows/60_minutes/video/7lRYevF9XrpLqEXeHQJmBNTCbqc_onKC/flying-under-the-radar-closing-the-gender-pay-gap/ But the easy fix for that is simply not to fly Allegiant, which is exactly what the former FAA rep they interviewed recommended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishin' musician Posted April 18, 2018 #30 Share Posted April 18, 2018 When cruising from US or Canadian ports I'll take Amtrak. Not exactly luxurious and not exactly cheap, but for me it is a far better experience than the cattle herding process that flying has become. As for Europe and beyond, mooooo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted April 18, 2018 #31 Share Posted April 18, 2018 We fly frequently. Especially on vacation where it is not unusual for us to take multiple flights. When it comes down to staying home or flying we wil always take the latter. On balance, flying is very safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare albingirl Posted April 18, 2018 #32 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Prayers are with the family during this tragic time. I fly often, and think about the risk, but I will still fly. I'm actually fairly terrified on the highway and consider it a miracle when I arrive somewhere safely after all the traffic. It is very sad what happened on that flight and I can only think about how hard this must be for her family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeniEncinitas Posted April 18, 2018 #33 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Prayers are with the family during this tragic time. I fly often, and think about the risk, but I will still fly. I'm actually fairly terrified on the highway and consider it a miracle when I arrive somewhere safely after all the traffic. It is very sad what happened on that flight and I can only think about how hard this must be for her family. Well said albingirl Thank you! Denise:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising-along Posted April 18, 2018 #34 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I dislike flying but it is a necessary evil. A means to an end. If you want to see a destination you need to get there first. To be honest, I don't even like driving very much anymore with all the nutty drivers out there...but it is just something you need to do to go where you want to go. I feel the same way, although I would say I "detest" flying. I have a fear of heights and falling, also an ear problem that causes severe pain when I fly if I don't take antihistamines before the flight. Not to mention the hassle of flying now. But I love to cruise and see the world so it's a necessary evil. A month after 911 our son got married and we had to fly across country to attend the wedding. People asked if I was nervous about flying after 911. I told them no more than usual! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee2673 Posted April 18, 2018 #35 Share Posted April 18, 2018 While I don’t love flying, I don’t love sitting home on my couch wondering about far away places more. The “hassle” for me is minimal. I have TSA pre check and am through TSA in minutes. I refuse to only do a carry on unless it’s a short trip as I will not fight over overhead space with those space hogs. Let them have it, I prefer simple and happily pay the $25. plus I might throw out my back lifting my bag[emoji33]. The seat size isn’t awesome nor is the food but times change. It’s not like flying back in the 60s and 70s but neither is almost anything else. Certainly fewer fatalities. I don’t know if anyone remembers the DC 10 out of Chicago crash in 1978? I was supposed to be on that flight but had changed it at the last minute. It flipped upside down after takeoff and crashed that way on the runway. Took me a while to get over that one! Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Eyes Are Sailing Posted April 18, 2018 #36 Share Posted April 18, 2018 A month after 911 our son got married and we had to fly across country to attend the wedding. People asked if I was nervous about flying after 911. I told them no more than usual! I also flew 10 days after 9-11...to Switzerland. I was scared to death. But then I realized that security would never be more strict, so I calmed down. It went well, so it was okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Eyes Are Sailing Posted April 18, 2018 #37 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Dee2673, yes I remember that flight...how horrible! God Bless you, I am glad you didn't fly on that flight. I admire the fact that you have continued to fly since then. I don't know if I could have done so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankc98376 Posted April 18, 2018 #38 Share Posted April 18, 2018 First fatality in Southwest history- I'd say that is a pretty good record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted April 18, 2018 #39 Share Posted April 18, 2018 First fatality in Southwest history- I'd say that is a pretty good record. They are saying the crew of that plane did a geat job putting it down on t the ground Does Quantas still have the best safety record ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catl331 Posted April 18, 2018 #40 Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) First fatality in Southwest history- I'd say that is a pretty good record.And if the containment ring had held in the shrapnel as it should have the record would still be intact. It was a really freak incident. Edited April 18, 2018 by catl331 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old As Dirt Mom Posted April 18, 2018 #41 Share Posted April 18, 2018 When cruising from US or Canadian ports I'll take Amtrak. Not exactly luxurious and not exactly cheap' date=' but for me it is a far better experience than the cattle herding process that flying has become. As for Europe and beyond, mooooo![/quote'] We have used Amtrak multiple times between Seattle - Vancouver - Seattle, and will use them again, despite the fact that Amtrak has had four accidents so far in 2018 alone involving fatalities. So there are no sure bets with any form of transportation. You pays your money and you takes your chances. Doesn't make it any easier to deal with tragedies like this one on Southwest which involves the death of a young wife and mother. I am grateful for every day I can stand up and draw breath, for I know my time here is all too short. "Media vita in morte sumus" ("in the midst of life we are in death"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankc98376 Posted April 18, 2018 #42 Share Posted April 18, 2018 PSA Flight Attendants used to announce on landing "Now that the safest part of your trip is over, please drive carefully" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT1962 Posted April 18, 2018 #43 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I am booked on 2 Southwest flights coming up and have no concerns, although I may choose a seat away from the engines. It always amazes me how we as humans worry about sensational things that will likely never happen to us - dying in a plane crash, getting attacked by a a shark, etc., but never think twice about the most likely cause of accidental death - car accidents. Over 100 people die every day in the US in car accidents, but most people never think twice about driving. Statistically driving to a distant port is much more dangerous than flying. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KroozNut Posted April 18, 2018 #44 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I am booked on 2 Southwest flights coming up and have no concerns, although I may choose a seat away from the engines. It always amazes me how we as humans worry about sensational things that will likely never happen to us - dying in a plane crash, getting attacked by a a shark, etc., but never think twice about the most likely cause of accidental death - car accidents. Over 100 people die every day in the US in car accidents, but most people never think twice about driving. Statistically driving to a distant port is much more dangerous than flying. Sent from my iPhone using Forums This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KroozNut Posted April 18, 2018 #45 Share Posted April 18, 2018 They are saying the crew of that plane did a geat job putting it down on t the ground Yes, and the pilot is a former (female) Navy fighter pilot... Go Navy!!;):D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkacruiser Posted April 18, 2018 #46 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Getting to and from the airport is a larger concern of mine than the actual flight. This tragic incident surely does show the need to keep one's seat belt fastened when on a plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winddawn Posted April 18, 2018 #47 Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) But the easy fix for that is simply not to fly Allegiant, which is exactly what the former FAA rep they interviewed recommended. I've never flown Allegiant, but the bigger question I'm suggesting is, if one airline is "flying under the radar" of the FAA without oversight concern, how does one know other airlines aren't also? I'm simply suggesting deregulation opens the door to safety non-compliance. The fact that metal fatigue has been determined to be the cause of the Southwest fatality, how do you know other planes are not also experiencing metal fatigue? And why did this particular Southwest airplane get to the point where metal fatigue killed a passenger? Don't you want to know the next aircraft you fly on is not on the verge of metal fatigue? How do you know the next airline you choose has an internal control process? SMH. Edited April 18, 2018 by winddawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Eyes Are Sailing Posted April 18, 2018 #48 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Getting to and from the airport is a larger concern of mine than the actual flight. This tragic incident surely does show the need to keep one's seat belt fastened when on a plane. I always do....glad you said it....good thing for folks to do....keep that thing fastened unless you are going to the (very dirty) bathroom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Eyes Are Sailing Posted April 18, 2018 #49 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Yes, and the pilot is a former (female) Navy fighter pilot... Go Navy!!;):D Yes, that definitely helped...she had a lot of good military experience.....probably saved a lot of lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted April 18, 2018 #50 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Yes, that definitely helped...she had a lot of good military experience.....probably saved a lot of lives! she surly did stay cool and saved a great many lives. Well done . Of course, very sad for that young woman to have been lost. I heard the tape of pilot speaking withe the tower and she was so calm Amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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