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[806James]

We are also concerned about the possible restaurant changes. After 15 cruises, the one specialty restaurant that we do not find repetitive is Toscana. That is because of the diversity and number of menu choices. The food and service in Polo is excellent as always, but the concept has become tired. Unfortunately, the Tuscan Steak concept dropped some of the best dishes from Polo and Toscana (e.g., lobster diavolo). My proposal (sent to Oceania and followed by a resounding silence) is to keep Toscana as it is, offer the Polo steak menu in the Grand Dining Room, and put a Red Ginger in the place of Polo.

 

 

 

I agree with the last poster--these are definitely first world problems.

[Go-Bucks!]

What do folk think of the idea of replacing the casino with another lounge/bar area as Azamara have done on the Pursuit?

There are plenty of bars and other places to drink alcohol on the ships. The small area that the casino takes up is nice for those who enjoy making donations to Oceania. ;)

[Paulchili]

On the R ships a bar abuts the casino.

 

Yes, I know.

That is why it would be simple to eliminate the casino and expand the bar seating capacity. I understand it gets pretty busy during happy hour :D

FWIW, it wouldn’t matter to me either way as I don’t subsidize either concession.

[RJB]

If you simply look at the older Oceania ships compared to the Riviera or Marina, you can see the major differences. Some of us will only sail on (and recommend) the newer ships. This isn't because they are newer but because they are laid out better - have larger suites (especially the bathrooms), etc. Unless they tear out the interior of the ship which is highly unlikely, the stateroom sizes will be the same and that in and of itself makes it not interesting to us.

 

Also, new ships do not mean turning Oceania into a mainstream cruise line like NCL. Regent's newest ship and the one under construction has improvements that make it even better than the Riviera (and we thought that the Riviera was the most beautiful ship that we have sailed and still like Riviera top suites more). If NCL is redoing their older ships for 25M each - it will probably not be that dramatic -- just new colors - furniture, etc.

Agree 100% :):):)

[Andee]

While I agree that the cabins are better on the O ships, we greatly prefer the public areas on the R ships.

 

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[StanandJim]

While I agree that the cabins are better on the O ships, we greatly prefer the public areas on the R ships.

 

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This entire discussion puts me in mind of people, and there are thousands of them out there in the ether, who complain about "new" ports being needed; then you discover that they spent 6 hours in Rome on a day trip from Civitavecchia in 1993.

[RJB]

This entire discussion puts me in mind of people, and there are thousands of them out there in the ether, who complain about "new" ports being needed; then you discover that they spent 6 hours in Rome on a day trip from Civitavecchia in 1993.

What is your point? I guess I am a little thick as i don't get it. :(

[wripro]

If that was a serious question, here are some serious answers.

 

Lack of popularity...

... for health reasons. FG is an item that contains 12.4 grams of fat (4.1 of which are saturated fat) in a 1 ounce serving.

... Oceania demographics suggests that average cruiser may more interested in a good night's sleep and less interested in dealing with the consequences of eating such a high fat food .

... because people know FG is organ meat, in spite of the high brow use of French rather than the words English "fat liver".

 

Extra skill demands on the kitchen to execute a properly seared slice. Since there's so much fat, a slice left on the heat too long literally melts into nothingness. And the line between long enough and too long is pretty thin.

 

 

 

Humane treatment of animal issues in the creation of foie gras.

 

I suspect all these factors -- and others I may not have listed -- combined to produce lots of unordered, wasted product at the end of each cruise.

 

Unfortunately, my tongue was firmly planted in my cheek. To unplant it simply compare the cost of a slice of seared foie gras to a plate of mixed greens.

[StanandJim]

What is your point? I guess I am a little thick as i don't get it. :(

 

Remember that you said that, not me. ;p

 

My point is that it is somewhat sophomoric to say "been there done that" about a great city like Rome after a brief visit, and therefore a "newer port" would not translate into a "better port".

Thanks to years of the excesses of Madison Avenue, our Society has an unattractive and unhealthy obsession with the "new".

[Tansy Mews]

The main thing I would do on

Nautica is adding toilets near Horizon.

[LHT28]

The main thing I would do on

Nautica is adding toilets near Horizon.

on all the R ships

[JimandStan]

on all the R ships

 

There are already Restrooms one flight down, in the Deck 9 Elevator Lobby just outside of the Gym.

If they are forty steps from the door of Horizons, I'd be surprised.

[pinotlover]

The R ships are of an old design and O has had to live with some poor design decisions. It was a bad design to have a major bar and events locale ( Horizons) and not place a bathroom adjacent. Same as the men’s bathroom being located so far from the Lounge on the R ships. Hopefully, on any new design they would correct this.

 

Newbies , in Horizons, shouldn’t have to wander aimlessly looking for a bathroom, then learn it’s down a deck. Insult to injury is when one goes out of order and the closest one is on the aft of the ship or in the Spa!

[JimandStan]

Same as the men’s bathroom being located so far from the Lounge on the R ships.

Incorrect. There is both a mens and a ladies restroom just outside of the Lounge on the R Ships, just before the Casino

[LHT28]

There are already Restrooms one flight down, in the Deck 9 Elevator Lobby just outside of the Gym.

If they are forty steps from the door of Horizons, I'd be surprised.

but it would be much better if they were close to Horizons :halo:

YMMV

[cbb]

"but it would be much better if they were close to Horizons"---

 

especially if you are old- er- and have had too much of what happy hour has to offer ;)

[cbb]

breaking news in my email....from O:

 

"Are you ready?

Dramatic enhancements, countless transformational changes

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[Classiccruiser777]

breaking news in my email....from O:

 

"Are you ready?

Dramatic enhancements, countless transformational changes

and endless luxury, all revealed in 3 days."

 

And the NEXT video:

[YoHoHo]

I suspect you will get a few more as the countdown continues

[RJB]

I suspect you will get a few more as the countdown continues

Yes, they keep coming. Hope it is worth the wait.

[Charles4515]

And the NEXT video:

 

Looking at the videos, maybe they are going to be more inclusive?

[The A Train]

We saw what DEhancements meant when announced four months ago!

[Classiccruiser777]

Looking at the videos, maybe they are going to be more inclusive?

I hope not. More inclusive = higher fares.

[Charles4515]

I hope not. More inclusive = higher fares.

 

 

 

Whatever they do probably means higher fares.

 

 

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[PaulMCO]

Whatever they do probably means higher fares.

 

 

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