PEPERV Posted August 7, 2018 Author #26 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Jose Assuming that your upcoming cruise is on the Freedom of the Seas out of San Juan, a really large percentage of cruisers will be native Spanish speakers- from Puerto Rico. And the cruise is very bi-lingual (including ALL of the announcements). Which is to say that the odds of having someone be in your face about where you are from will be greatly reduced. Not zero, as there are horrible people everywhere. But I think your chances of being ok are worth the trip. We've sailed with my in-laws out of San Juan, who spoke very little English (even to me), and they had no problems communicating with any of the staff on the ship. Hi Alfaeric, I’m speak English a little better than I write and I don’t have problem sharing with English speakers, for me it’s very good because I learn a little more, not only from their language but also from their culture, and Yes !!! I will take the FODS next September 15th a day before the Independence Day of México!! Hugs! Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George C Posted August 7, 2018 #27 Share Posted August 7, 2018 You should try rccl liberty lots of both Spanish speaking sailing and Mexicans since Texas is so close , have had a really good salsa band on all our sailings . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEPERV Posted August 7, 2018 Author #28 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Why does that really matter? The OP is just trying to find a way to not have that kind of interaction, not trying to blame others. Not sure why people are questioning if he had faced racists insults, given what was actually asked. How to avoid and how to deal with it is what I read as the question. And if you really think it's not happening, perhaps you should test your empathy button. What you just wrote is exactly what I want to convey .. thanks Alfaérico for understanding it, it is not my intention to create a debate, it is as well to understand a problem, I love Royal Caribbean because these cruises bring out the best of each human being to travel in one of them is always joy for us, the passengers are invaluable as well as the experience. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEPERV Posted August 7, 2018 Author #29 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Not buying this post either.....looks to me like someone is trying to stir the "racial" pot.:mad: I have not tried to do this, I'm sorry that this is the idea I gave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Abuelo Posted August 7, 2018 #30 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Hi, Living4acruise2day, I will explain a little better, when my parents had been aboard the Oasis of the Seas (November 20th 7 nights western Caribbean cruise) in the second day, they decide to spend the day in the pool areas, my dad is 58 years old and my mom is 60 but they are very happy and like to be where the music is. And dad wanted to give a piña colada to mom, so he went to the pool bar and asked for it, ( he does not speak English so he take the menu and point it) after several minuetes a very friendly American gentleman who fortunately spoke Spanish took my father and asked to speak with the supervisor of the boys at the bar, it was there when my parents found out thanks to that Good Samaritan, that they were using racist words against them just for funny to some customers who were at the bar, the supervisor take out the bar guys (workers) from his area but not before apologizing to my parents. Sent from my iPhone using Forums He wanted a piña colada but didn't know how to say it in English? It's the same name and pronunciation in both languages, and any bartender on any ship has heard it pronounced a thousand different ways. Is this for real? A bartender on a RCI ship belittled a cruiser's ethnic background to another cruiser? That's very unusual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEPERV Posted August 7, 2018 Author #31 Share Posted August 7, 2018 You should try rccl liberty lots of both Spanish speaking sailing and Mexicans since Texas is so close , have had a really good salsa band on all our sailings . Thanks George and tried to find a cruise from texas but for some reason the flights are more expensive than Florida Ney York or Puerto Rico( my next cruise departure), but surely one day I will take that beautiful route, I try not to step on Mexican ports when I sail for RCI because as mexican is very easy for me to know those destinations and most of the routes that sail from Texas arrive at Mexican ports, but I will take it into account, thank you for your advice and I wish you a beautiful day !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNBR Posted August 7, 2018 #32 Share Posted August 7, 2018 We don't have much information here. The question is if something about Mexicans behavior upsets cruise staff and other passengers. But we have absolutely no idea how this person and his family conduct themselves. Does this person represent Mexico and the behavior of all Mexicans or something? Do all Mexicans act the same? Lol. Considering the hugely diverse group of people who cruise, I find it hard to believe that the staff is discriminating against Mexicans, generally speaking. It seems more plausible that this person is just doing something that others find annoying or offensive. It MIGHT be cultural, it might not. Unless the OP gives some better examples than "tried to order a pina colada" then, really, who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEPERV Posted August 7, 2018 Author #33 Share Posted August 7, 2018 He wanted a piña colada but didn't know how to say it in English? It's the same name and pronunciation in both languages, and any bartender on any ship has heard it pronounced a thousand different ways. Is this for real? A bartender on a RCI ship belittled a cruiser's ethnic background to another cruiser? That's very unusual. ok is enough, my father is a person who has just come out to know the world thanks to cruises, in his house and his routine he does not take piña colada or any other cocktail, he can hardly use his cell phone to communicate with me as smartphones are very complicated for him, his only illusion is to take mom to know the world and wants to pamper her, he just drinks with coca and says Cuba and mama takes tequila, I do not have to explain if my post is real or not of people like you It's who I want to get away from on my next cruise, I'm afraid because I just wrote in a meeting called meet and megle and I would not like to go through another experience like that again, I know, you will tell me then do not leave, but do not know try that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted August 7, 2018 #34 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Thanks George and tried to find a cruise from texas but for some reason the flights are more expensive than Florida Ney York or Puerto Rico( my next cruise departure), but surely one day I will take that beautiful route, I try not to step on Mexican ports when I sail for RCI because as mexican is very easy for me to know those destinations and most of the routes that sail from Texas arrive at Mexican ports, but I will take it into account, thank you for your advice and I wish you a beautiful day !! Most all the Mexican Ports Royal docks out of Texas and Florida are islands. I’m curious, how do you travel to those islands frequently from Mexico mainland? Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEPERV Posted August 7, 2018 Author #35 Share Posted August 7, 2018 For someone claiming to know little English, OP seems to have no problem reading and responding quickly to posts in this thread. But as said, you are free to believe in whatever OP said. ok this is my google translator is my tool and of course I’m use my iPhone whit corrections words, I’m very sorry this topic is a problem for some people I just tried to learn like always Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEPERV Posted August 7, 2018 Author #36 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Most all the Mexican Ports Royal docks out of Texas and Florida are islands. I’m curious, how do you travel to those islands frequently from Mexico mainland? Sent from my iPhone using Forums only cozumel by ferrye because riviera maya is continental, my travel agent offers routes leaving from galveston tx that passes through one of these ports and I love the caribbean islands, the best routes sail from florida but next month I will try from puerto rico .. has beautiful routes! We'll see how it goes.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jean87510 Posted August 7, 2018 #37 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Granted I haven't cruised as much as others but my experience has been that staff has on the most part been helpful and kind on ships. And there are always supervisors and other staff floating about. I have a hard time believing the story and probably because I work with a largely Hispanic population consisting of Dominican, Mexican and Puerto Rican nationalities where I have to decipher medical vaccine records and use Google translate quite a lot since my Spanish is not always compatible with all dialects. I dont ever recollect seeing such a strange translation or someone answering so quickly. Sent from my SM-G955U using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEPERV Posted August 7, 2018 Author #38 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Granted I haven't cruised as much as others but my experience has been that staff has on the most part been helpful and kind on ships. And there are always supervisors and other staff floating about. I have a hard time believing the story and probably because I work with a largely Hispanic population consisting of Dominican, Mexican and Puerto Rican nationalities where I have to decipher medical vaccine records and use Google translate quite a lot since my Spanish is not always compatible with all dialects. I dont ever recollect seeing such a strange translation or someone answering so quickly. Sent from my SM-G955U using Forums mobile app . It’s very ease just copy paste Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEPERV Posted August 7, 2018 Author #39 Share Posted August 7, 2018 . It’s very ease just copy paste Sent from my iPhone using Forums I’m in my office right now so my cellphone and my computer do everything for me!! I just need to write in Spanish and translate and the same for English to Spanish Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted August 7, 2018 #40 Share Posted August 7, 2018 I’m in my office right now so my cellphone and my computer do everything for me!! I just need to write in Spanish and translate and the same for English to Spanish Sent from my iPhone using Forums When we have sailed out of Miami, all announcements were in both English and Spanish. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jean87510 Posted August 7, 2018 #41 Share Posted August 7, 2018 . It’s very ease just copy paste Sent from my iPhone using Forums es muy fácil solo cortar y pegar Which if using google translate is - "it's very easy just to cut and paste". So, sorry about your parents and hope you enjoy your cruise but I really dont believe everything I'm reading. But hey, it doesn't really matter in the long run. Sent from my SM-G955U using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEPERV Posted August 7, 2018 Author #42 Share Posted August 7, 2018 es muy fácil solo cortar y pegar Which if using google translate is - "it's very easy just to cut and paste". So, sorry about your parents and hope you enjoy your cruise but I really dont believe everything I'm reading. But hey, it doesn't really matter in the long run. Sent from my SM-G955U using Forums mobile app Thanks jean!! You have a beautiful day. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Abuelo Posted August 7, 2018 #43 Share Posted August 7, 2018 ok is enough, my father is a person who has just come out to know the world thanks to cruises, in his house and his routine he does not take piña colada or any other cocktail, he can hardly use his cell phone to communicate with me as smartphones are very complicated for him, his only illusion is to take mom to know the world and wants to pamper her, he just drinks with coca and says Cuba and mama takes tequila, I do not have to explain if my post is real or not of people like you It's who I want to get away from on my next cruise, I'm afraid because I just wrote in a meeting called meet and megle and I would not like to go through another experience like that again, I know, you will tell me then do not leave, but do not know try that. People like me? If you are Mexican, you and I have a lot in common. I still don't understand why he couldn't order a drink, especially if he has previous experience on a cruise. My experience with language difficulties among people with different ethnic heritages (which is considerable) is that on a cruise ship, servers, especially bartenders, make it easy to order drinks and only make fun of guest that are drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeandliz Posted August 8, 2018 #44 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Nice try on that google translate page. However, when you try to fool people. At least use an IP blocking tool. Also one MAJOR fundamental problem with the screen pic you uploaded after the .com the mx prefix is missing from the URL. If you are truly accessing that translation site from Mexico. The address would include the aforementioned mx. It would look similar the this Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceans16 Posted August 8, 2018 #45 Share Posted August 8, 2018 When we were on Adventure of the Seas last year we were discriminated upon as most were from Puerto Rico and the ship gave them extreme discounts to fill the ship after the hurricane. We thought we were in a third world country. Treated less than those of descent and obnoxious people and kids all during the night chanting down the decks. Think about it from all sides. We paid more than the 75% PR and got treated less. Food for thought. Sent from my SM-G935R4 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayjr1121 Posted August 8, 2018 #46 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Hahaha... As a Latino myself I know we can be loud and we speak with body gestures and, have I mentioned we are loud?! No. There's nothing you can do or could've done. If it gets out pf hand, notify the cruise authorities. If it doesn't, just go on with your day. Some people are not worth of your sweat and anger. Just move on. Be happy. Keep enjoying your vacation. We are who we are and people like those people who mistreated you are also who they are. We MUST go on... I'm from Brazil and moved to the U.S. when I was 13 years old and I've lived here for 2/3 of my life. I still suffer from discrimination every now and then but I just go on... The way I look at it, discrimination is everywhere. Against immigrants, colored, Asians, Indians (natives), etc. But when it gets out of control, contact the authorities. Every ship has one. Safe sailings... Obrigado e tchau. Sent from my LG-H932 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpdog42 Posted August 8, 2018 #47 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Hahaha... As a Latino myself I know we can be loud and we speak with body gestures and, have I mentioned we are loud?! No. There's nothing you can do or could've done. If it gets out pf hand, notify the cruise authorities. If it doesn't, just go on with your day. Some people are not worth of your sweat and anger. Just move on. Be happy. Keep enjoying your vacation. We are who we are and people like those people who mistreated you are also who they are. We MUST go on... I'm from Brazil and moved to the U.S. when I was 13 years old and I've lived here for 2/3 of my life. I still suffer from discrimination every now and then but I just go on... The way I look at it, discrimination is everywhere. Against immigrants, colored, Asians, Indians (natives), etc. But when it gets out of control, contact the authorities. Every ship has one. Safe sailings... Obrigado e tchau. Sent from my LG-H932 using Forums mobile app and White's as well, Try driving thru some parts of St Louis!! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodgem Posted August 8, 2018 #48 Share Posted August 8, 2018 . The way I look at it, discrimination is everywhere. Against immigrants, colored, Asians, Indians (natives), etc. Don't forget discrimination against disabled no matter what race there are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayjr1121 Posted August 8, 2018 #49 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Yes Sent from my LG-H932 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpdog42 Posted August 8, 2018 #50 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Don't forget discrimination against disabled no matter what race there are. 100% agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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