Ocean Boy Posted June 15 #2951 Share Posted June 15 17 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said: While Royal will certainly welcome existing cruisers on the short cruisers their main intention with Wonder and Utopia is to go after the new to cruise business which is a huge market. For existing cruisers it may not appeal but it has a lot of appeal to those who have never cruised. It is not as big of an investment in both time and money to try a new type of vacation that they may be hesitant about trying. It's all about offering up a brand new product that will draw in new guests to try cruising and then hopefully get them back on board for the longer cruises. Short vacations, whether it's a weekend to Vegas, Disney, a beach or another city is a huge market that Royal is now going after with some of the best ships they have. I'm just curious. Any idea how crew likes short cruises on mega ships? I would think turning over an O or I class ship twice a week instead of once would be a bit of a pain. Also, bartenders seem to enjoy connecting and bantering with guests. I would think connections would be hard to form on a short cruise with a mega ship.🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelblu Posted June 15 #2952 Share Posted June 15 2 hours ago, Ocean Boy said: If I were going to do a 4+3 to make a week then I'd probably just do a 7 out of Bayonne as the itineraries for all of those sailings are fairly poor at best. I've got a 3/4 days on Utopia and the best thing about this sail is 2x on Coco Cay.😊 In addition as D+ and 340 points I get 2x BOGO, 4 days of internet and extra bottles of wines.😀 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted June 15 #2953 Share Posted June 15 2 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said: I'm just curious. Any idea how crew likes short cruises on mega ships? I would think turning over an O or I class ship twice a week instead of once would be a bit of a pain. Also, bar tenders seem to enjoy connecting and bantering with guests. I would think connections would be hard to form on a short cruise with a mega ship.🤔 No idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelblu Posted June 15 #2954 Share Posted June 15 3 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said: I'm just curious. Any idea how crew likes short cruises on mega ships? I would think turning over an O or I class ship twice a week instead of once would be a bit of a pain. Also, bar tenders seem to enjoy connecting and bantering with guests. I would think connections would be hard to form on a short cruise with a mega ship.🤔 I don't think they would care as they see tons of different faces and personalities--here one day and gone the next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted June 15 #2955 Share Posted June 15 3 minutes ago, nelblu said: I don't think they would care as they see tons of different faces and personalities--here one day and gone the next. You may be right. Though one of my most amazing cruises was Allure at 50% capacity. Bartenders, some anyway, were happy to be truly practicing their craft. A bartender with time is so different than one who has a load of thirsty people who want their drink now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelblu Posted June 15 #2956 Share Posted June 15 6 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said: You may be right. Though one of my most amazing cruises was Allure at 50% capacity. Bartenders, some anyway, were happy to be truly practicing their craft. A bartender with time is so different than one who has a load of thirsty people who want their drink now. I was on Allure and Oasis at 40-50% capacity and best service in the MDR. Those were very unusual days to cruise and always remember capacity of only 9 at the time in the pools due to social distancing, but as usual human nature as it is. they gravitated towards each other, and lifeguards were silent. Also, saw in early morning by the pool decks as staff with a six-foot pole measuring 6 ft distance for loungers. Now we know the true reason how they came up with the 6 ft distance.😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another_Critic Posted June 16 #2957 Share Posted June 16 7 hours ago, Ocean Boy said: If I were going to do a 4+3 to make a week then I'd probably just do a 7 out of Bayonne as the itineraries for all of those sailings are fairly poor at best. Just booked a 7 nighter from Bayonne on Symphony. Also 14 nights on Odyssey from Rome to Bayonne. Plus 12 nights on Vision from Baltimore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another_Critic Posted June 16 #2958 Share Posted June 16 (edited) 6 hours ago, island lady said: Had never been on Allure before. Wanted to see Mamma Mia while we still could. Have never been on Allure, but I've seen Mama Mia on Quantum (long version with intermission). Looking to book Allure to take it to it's surgery (aka AMP) appointment (MIA to BCN TA). Edited June 16 by Another_Critic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Barracuda Posted June 16 #2959 Share Posted June 16 Also just booked 7 nights on Symphony this fall. Absolutely awful itinerary but great price and drive to port. Wish they would skip PC and Nassau, add a couple of days and stretch the sailing further south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted June 16 #2960 Share Posted June 16 21 hours ago, grandgeezer said: What’s a 50 PC stock bonus? I thought all you got was $100 or $250 obc depending on the length of the cruise. 4 night: 50.00 OBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted June 16 #2961 Share Posted June 16 21 hours ago, Ocean Boy said: If I booked Allure and Mamma Mia didn't happen I would be so bummed.😒 I was. 🤕 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted June 16 #2962 Share Posted June 16 21 hours ago, Ocean Boy said: I'm just curious. Any idea how crew likes short cruises on mega ships? I would think turning over an O or I class ship twice a week instead of once would be a bit of a pain. Also, bartenders seem to enjoy connecting and bantering with guests. I would think connections would be hard to form on a short cruise with a mega ship.🤔 IMHO...they don't. 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelblu Posted June 16 #2963 Share Posted June 16 1 hour ago, Baron Barracuda said: Also just booked 7 nights on Symphony this fall. Absolutely awful itinerary but great price and drive to port. Wish they would skip PC and Nassau, add a couple of days and stretch the sailing further south. Last year I took an Anthem 8 nite which included a stop I’m Miami. Took a similar 8 niter in February but no stop in Miami, however, got to PC in am rather than noon or 1 pm. Have an 11 niter in Odyssey in January’26 and it does Southern Caribbean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another_Critic Posted June 16 #2964 Share Posted June 16 2 hours ago, Baron Barracuda said: Also just booked 7 nights on Symphony this fall. Absolutely awful itinerary but great price and drive to port. Wish they would skip PC and Nassau, add a couple of days and stretch the sailing further south. Also booked a 7 nighter on Symphony ... in Sept. $105pppd for a CP balcony. I agree with moving to a longer itinerary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another_Critic Posted June 16 #2965 Share Posted June 16 1 hour ago, nelblu said: Have an 11 niter in Odyssey in January’26 and it does Southern Caribbean. Had an 11 night Odyssey sailing on hold for Jan. '25 but released it. Doing a 14 night TA on Odyssey this fall and booked a 12 night Southern Caribbean on Vision a few weeks later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted June 17 #2966 Share Posted June 17 " Chairman Richard Fain sold $3m worth of Royal Caribbean Group shares. A total of 19,584 shares were sold in a series of trades June 13 at a weighted average price of $153.96. Still directly holds 179,117 shares Fain still directly holds 179,117 RCL shares, while 661,241 shares are indirectly held in trusts for the benefit of certain family members. The stock closed at $155.28 June 13 and at $148.50 June 14." Richard Fain sells $3m in Royal Caribbean shares (seatrade-cruise.com) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Barracuda Posted June 17 #2967 Share Posted June 17 (edited) Richard held things together through covid and RCL is the only cruise stock above it's pre 2020 level. Miss his videos. He deserves every penny. Edited June 17 by Baron Barracuda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another_Critic Posted June 17 #2968 Share Posted June 17 45 minutes ago, Baron Barracuda said: Richard held things together through covid and RCL is the only cruise stock above it's pre 2020 level. Miss his videos. He deserves every penny. He probably sold RCL to get a haircut. 😄 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted June 17 #2969 Share Posted June 17 CNBC today been nattering on about how travel slowing, especially europe and showing the percentage each cruise line has in europe. CCL by far had the largest exposure, at least double the exposure RCL has. Like 14% vs 34%. CCL has P &O and a lot more ships calling on europe. They were talking about flying and hotels, and said flights next year are actually lower than this year. Not because of fewer flying but capacity next year more seats available. Like rcl adding more ships with more berths type of reason. Not because fewer flying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted June 17 #2970 Share Posted June 17 5 hours ago, Another_Critic said: He probably sold RCL to get a haircut. 😄 And his brows waxed and trimmed. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedJessi Posted July 9 #2971 Share Posted July 9 How are folks feeling about where the stock is currently sitting?At $161.11 a share, I'm wondering how much longer to hold on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted July 9 #2972 Share Posted July 9 14 minutes ago, RedJessi said: How are folks feeling about where the stock is currently sitting?At $161.11 a share, I'm wondering how much longer to hold on it. I'm holding but not buying more here. Only 100 shares right now. Stocks sold off since that hurricane hit the news and CNBC kept saying cruise stocks selling off, forecast lots of hurricanes. CNBC manipulated the sell off imo. I happened to see ccl yesterday the chart turned positive. I would buy ccl here if I didnt hold it but not rcl. Rcl a bit too high perhaps but was even higher. Forecast of hurricanes shouldnt be enough to crash all cruise stocks. If it sold off more I'd buy more, but not here. Ccl posted good earnings and finally a profit, then hurricane news hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedJessi Posted July 9 #2973 Share Posted July 9 5 minutes ago, firefly333 said: I'm holding but not buying more here. Only 100 shares right now. Stocks sold off since that hurricane hit the news and CNBC kept saying cruise stocks selling off, forecast lots of hurricanes. CNBC manipulated the sell off imo. I happened to see ccl yesterday the chart turned positive. I would buy ccl here if I didnt hold it but not rcl. Rcl a bit too high perhaps but was even higher. Forecast of hurricanes shouldnt be enough to crash all cruise stocks. If it sold off more I'd buy more, but not here. Ccl posted good earnings and finally a profit, then hurricane news hit. I'm also around 100 shares, with avg share price in the vicinity of $73. Given that it's surpassed it's all-time high, I'm feeling antsy, but also wondering if it could hit 175/share or split in the nearish future.With CCL having reached about $71/share pre-pandemic and not being close to that price currently, I can see where it looks like a good buy, but I am concerned about its exposure in the European market (as mentioned above), so I am hesitant there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Barracuda Posted July 9 #2974 Share Posted July 9 From CCL recently released 2q earnings report: • Second quarter net income improved by nearly $500 million compared to 2023 and adjusted net income outperformed March guidance by nearly $170 million (see “Non-GAAP Financial Measures” below). • Record second quarter operating income of $560 million, nearly five times 2023 levels, on record second quarter revenues of $5.8 billion. • Raised full year 2024 net yield guidance (in constant currency) to approximately 10.25 percent on continued strong demand and raised full year adjusted net income guidance by approximately $275 million. • Cumulative booked position for the remainder of 2024 continues to be the best on record in both price (in constant currency) and occupancy. • While early, cumulative booked position for full year 2025 is even higher than 2024 in both price (in constant currency) and occupancy. • Total customer deposits reached an all-time high of $8.3 billion, surpassing the previous record by $1.1 billion. They don't sound worried nor do analysts who all raised their price targets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted July 9 #2975 Share Posted July 9 2 minutes ago, Baron Barracuda said: From CCL recently released 2q earnings report: • Second quarter net income improved by nearly $500 million compared to 2023 and adjusted net income outperformed March guidance by nearly $170 million (see “Non-GAAP Financial Measures” below). • Record second quarter operating income of $560 million, nearly five times 2023 levels, on record second quarter revenues of $5.8 billion. • Raised full year 2024 net yield guidance (in constant currency) to approximately 10.25 percent on continued strong demand and raised full year adjusted net income guidance by approximately $275 million. • Cumulative booked position for the remainder of 2024 continues to be the best on record in both price (in constant currency) and occupancy. • While early, cumulative booked position for full year 2025 is even higher than 2024 in both price (in constant currency) and occupancy. • Total customer deposits reached an all-time high of $8.3 billion, surpassing the previous record by $1.1 billion. They don't sound worried nor do analysts who all raised their price targets. Friday and early monday ccl low 17s I would have bought if I was buying. Bought a condo and moved, so not buying stocks. But if I was holding for a year I'd be a buyer of ccl, especially low 17s. Around 20 is resistance. Gets to 20 and backs off, was up to around 19 after earnings until the hurricane. Needs a few more qtrs of profit I think flr buyers to be comfortable. Paying down some debt early. Strong bookings. Cramer said the night before ccl earnings people act like strong bookings is suddenly going to stop, just a 1 qtr thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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