Rare VMax1700 Posted April 10, 2020 #51 Share Posted April 10, 2020 16 minutes ago, VMax1700 said: Through the breakwater. Is she going straight to the locks? To answer my own question, seems not. Stopped on the western side, waiting a slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare VMax1700 Posted April 10, 2020 #52 Share Posted April 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Belgian fry said: Can someone suggest where to watch this one-off crossing please? This is the first lock we expect her to sail through https://multimedia.panama-canal.com/Webcams/aguaclara.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare VMax1700 Posted April 10, 2020 #53 Share Posted April 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Belgian fry said: Can someone suggest where to watch this one-off crossing please? you can follow her progress here (probably need to keep refreshing the webpage)https://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=9692557 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare VMax1700 Posted April 10, 2020 #54 Share Posted April 10, 2020 and here are all the canal webcams https://multimedia.panama-canal.com/index.html They do not feed live video, but they refresh the image quite often. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catl331 Posted April 10, 2020 #55 Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, maxsales said: I would think that would be expensive as they would probably be charged canal transit fees for every lifeboat. It might be cheaper to send them by train. Apparently you haven't read this entire thread. I posted earlier that I believe that it would cost about $2000 per boat. However, not all would have to be floated through. Some of the smaller (turtle-shell) might be stored on deck, but that would require cranes on each end and supporting cradles. Shipping the large tenders by train would also require cranes, plus the costs and difficulty of getting them to/from the train, plus the train cost. That might all add up to more than $2000 each. Or maybe the Canal Authority will let the ship just go through one time with the boats in place. I'm sure HAL has calculated the best way. We'll just have to watch. Edited April 10, 2020 by catl331 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartgrove Posted April 10, 2020 #56 Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) When I was in the Coast Guard, the ship I was on was transfered from the Atlantic to the Pacific. Even though scheduled, a US warship, and the Canal was still under US jurisdiction, we anchored for two days in Limon Bay before beginning our transit. Seeing as it is not a passenger cruise, it may not have an immediate slot. Edited April 10, 2020 by Heartgrove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare rafinmd Posted April 10, 2020 #57 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Isn't there a huge reservation fee for a timed transit of the canal? Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare VMax1700 Posted April 10, 2020 #58 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Just now, rafinmd said: Isn't there a huge reservation fee for a timed transit of the canal? Roy I believe so. It makes sense for the canal authority to maximize their income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare VMax1700 Posted April 10, 2020 #59 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Seems that KDM is using her dynamic positioning system and is not at anchor. If that is correct, then it would indicate an reasonably short wait. Otherwise she would drop anchor and wait with the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catl331 Posted April 10, 2020 #60 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Wish we could see what's happening out there ... specifically, are they lowering lifeboats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxsales Posted April 10, 2020 #61 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 hour ago, catl331 said: Apparently you haven't read this entire thread. I posted earlier that I believe that it would cost about $2000 per boat. However, not all would have to be floated through. Some of the smaller (turtle-shell) might be stored on deck, but that would require cranes on each end and supporting cradles. Shipping the large tenders by train would also require cranes, plus the costs and difficulty of getting them to/from the train, plus the train cost. That might all add up to more than $2000 each. Or maybe the Canal Authority will let the ship just go through one time with the boats in place. I'm sure HAL has calculated the best way. We'll just have to watch. You are correct. I quote a post when I read it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted April 10, 2020 #62 Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, VMax1700 said: Seems that KDM is using her dynamic positioning system and is not at anchor. If that is correct, then it would indicate an reasonably short wait. Otherwise she would drop anchor and wait with the others. AIS now shows her with her hook dropped playing the waiting game off Colon Edited April 10, 2020 by Copper10-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare VMax1700 Posted April 10, 2020 #63 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Just now, Copper10-8 said: AIS now shows her with her hook dropped playing the waiting game off Colon Seems like we are going to have to wait to see how she negotiates the canal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare rafinmd Posted April 10, 2020 #64 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Hopefully it will be a more traditional transit time wise so if we miss one set of locks we'll be able to catch the other. Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leerathje Posted April 10, 2020 #65 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Checking in to see what's going on... L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leerathje Posted April 10, 2020 #66 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Wow, I have never looked at the Panama locks before! Pretty cool watching that container ship go through... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leerathje Posted April 11, 2020 #67 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Is there any way to tell when the Koningsdam will be going through the locks? L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted April 11, 2020 #68 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Has it already been given permission to enter the canal or is this a hope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartgrove Posted April 11, 2020 #69 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Marine Traffic is reporting an ATA of the Limon Bay Anchorage at 09:24 LT (UTC-3) today with an ETA to Cristobal (the first lock) on 2020-4-18 09:00 LT (UTC-5). If this is true (and I am reading it correctly), the Koningsdam will be at anchor until Sunday, April 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seacruise Posted April 11, 2020 #70 Share Posted April 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, Himself said: Has it already been given permission to enter the canal or is this a hope? It is waiting for an opening. As I said before it is likely to do a night time transit as it is cheaper. The Agua Clara locks are only single locks, not parallel like Gatun Locks. So you have to wait for all outbound traffic to clear then the direction changes and starts going the other way. As I type this there appears 1 more freighter Ever Legion that needs to go outbound before the switch would occur. I am not saying it will happen tonight but it could. Also passing in Culebra Cut is limited. I also suspect that Koningsdam will take on fuel once it reaches the Pacific side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrill Posted April 11, 2020 #71 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Seacruise said: It is waiting for an opening. As I said before it is likely to do a night time transit as it is cheaper. A day time transit may be in the cards if the K has boats (life boats) in the water. The April 18 transit date would come at the end of a quarantine time frame...... maybe someone can do the math on that. Edited April 11, 2020 by Boatdrill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjbean4 Posted April 11, 2020 Author #72 Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Heartgrove said: Marine Traffic is reporting an ATA of the Limon Bay Anchorage at 09:24 LT (UTC-3) today with an ETA to Cristobal (the first lock) on 2020-4-18 09:00 LT (UTC-5). If this is true (and I am reading it correctly), the Koningsdam will be at anchor until Sunday, April 18. So we will just have to keep a eye on the info that Marine Traffic is displaying as I just found the same thing. At least if this is the transit date and time we all know when the watch party will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catl331 Posted April 11, 2020 #73 Share Posted April 11, 2020 7 hours ago, Himself said: Has it already been given permission to enter the canal or is this a hope? I'm sure they wouldn't have backtracked all that distance from Brazil if they only had a hope of going through! 😃 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Essiesmom Posted April 11, 2020 #74 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Interesting conundrum: I have Marine traffic open on two sites. The Marine traffic site lists destination as CTB; the other site is embedded in another website and it shows destination for 4/18 as US SPQ. SPQ is the port identifier of the Catalina Air/sea terminal in San Pedro. Tis a puzzlement. EM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare VMax1700 Posted April 11, 2020 #75 Share Posted April 11, 2020 KDM is moving..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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