notmyrealnameoremail Posted September 11, 2020 #201 Share Posted September 11, 2020 5 hours ago, Pratique said: where more than 11.5 million passengers spent $1.05 billion ashore in 2016, according to Cruise Lines International Association (CLIA).... So those cruise passengers are spending less than $100 each? Even if you drive yourself to the port it can cost close to that just to park. Seems like a missed opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare livingonthebeach Posted September 11, 2020 #202 Share Posted September 11, 2020 15 hours ago, A&L_Ont said: It sure doesn’t seem to be the way to gain favour from the CDC, even though they are trying to make their point. It is a unprecedented pandemic, not a gastric outbreak limited to one ship..... The Miami-Dade Commissioners Committee and one individual in particular, Rebeca Sosa, was the one blasting the CDC. Del Rio, Arnold and Bayley stayed away from the bashing and instead painted a bleak picture of the cruise industry going forward if the no-sail order is extended. My feeling is it's in the cruise lines CEOs best interest to get the County officials to put pressure on government on their behalf (they are not US entities), and since the cruise ports can not survive unless cruise ships can sail, it is incumbent upon Miami-Dade County to get Congress to prod the CDC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted September 11, 2020 #203 Share Posted September 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, livingonthebeach said: The Miami-Dade Commissioners Committee and one individual in particular, Rebeca Sosa, was the one blasting the CDC. Del Rio, Arnold and Bayley stayed away from the bashing and instead painted a bleak picture of the cruise industry going forward if the no-sail order is extended. My feeling is it's in the cruise lines CEOs best interest to get the County officials to put pressure on government on their behalf (they are not US entities), and since the cruise ports can not survive unless cruise ships can sail, it is incumbent upon Miami-Dade County to get Congress to prod the CDC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted September 11, 2020 #204 Share Posted September 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, livingonthebeach said: since the cruise ports can not survive unless cruise ships can sail, it is incumbent upon Miami-Dade County to get Congress to prod the CDC. I believe the Port of Miami has a much better chance of survival than the cruise lines. M8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare livingonthebeach Posted September 11, 2020 #205 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Milwaukee Eight said: I believe the Port of Miami has a much better chance of survival than the cruise lines. M8 Yes, the cargo portion will certainly survive but not the cruise part if there are no cruise ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare livingonthebeach Posted September 11, 2020 #206 Share Posted September 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said: $ 🎼🎵🎶 Money, money, moneyMust be funnyIn the rich man's worldMoney, money, moneyAlways sunnyIn the rich man's worldAha ahaAll the things I could doIf I had a little moneyIt's a rich man's worldIt's a rich man's world 🎼🎵🎶 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenderlou Posted September 11, 2020 #207 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I believe the Port of Miami has a much better chance of survival than the cruise lines. M8Miami Dade & Broward go into phase 2 on Monday. I hope that helps in getting cruises going.Sent from my iPhone using Forums 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandebeach Posted September 11, 2020 #208 Share Posted September 11, 2020 54 minutes ago, livingonthebeach said: 🎼🎵🎶 Money, money, moneyMust be funnyIn the rich man's worldMoney, money, moneyAlways sunnyIn the rich man's worldAha ahaAll the things I could doIf I had a little moneyIt's a rich man's worldIt's a rich man's world 🎼🎵🎶 HaHa! But so happy to hear that Miami and Broward go to Phase 2 of re-opening on Monday! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted September 11, 2020 #209 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Milwaukee Eight said: I believe the Port of Miami has a much better chance of survival than the cruise lines. M8 Based on numbers shared elsewhere cargo makes up 3-4 times the revenue as does cruising 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted September 11, 2020 #210 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 hours ago, livingonthebeach said: Yes, the cargo portion will certainly survive but not the cruise part if there are no cruise ships. Lines fold and get reborn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare livingonthebeach Posted September 11, 2020 #211 Share Posted September 11, 2020 4 hours ago, John&LaLa said: Lines fold and get reborn Very true -- the problem is the three major lines sailing out of PortMiami represent 75% of the cruise industry. There's a lot at stake for the port if forced to wait for rebirth of the cruise lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted September 11, 2020 #212 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 hour ago, livingonthebeach said: Very true -- the problem is the three major lines sailing out of PortMiami represent 75% of the cruise industry. There's a lot at stake for the port if forced to wait for rebirth of the cruise lines. Absolutely, that's why they need to get it right 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine3601 Posted September 12, 2020 #213 Share Posted September 12, 2020 23 hours ago, Pratique said: Are the social distancing requirements still in place? We heard from many restaurants and bars who said that even when we moved to 100% capacity it didn't help because the distancing requirements still limited them to less than half of normal capacity. Who is at 100% capacity? Her in Pa and NJ we are 25 to 50% for indoor dining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTLCruiseGal Posted September 12, 2020 #214 Share Posted September 12, 2020 On 9/10/2020 at 8:02 AM, time4u2go said: Nobody has asked the obvious question based on the title of this thread: How long will it take to retune the crew? 😁 You, my fellow cruiser, are awesome! If I had to estimate, you might be able,to tune 3-4 at a time. More than that, and the sopranos and altos get mixed up and tuning gets a bit complicated. Based upon that, they will all be tuned by Christmas. Now if you want fine tuning, that may take until Valentine’s Day. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted September 12, 2020 #215 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Sunshine3601 said: Who is at 100% capacity? Her in Pa and NJ we are 25 to 50% for indoor dining. We are at "100% capacity" in New Hampshire but it is meaningless because social distancing prevents them from actually serving at 100%. They can't make the dining rooms larger to accommodate more people at a greater distance from each other. https://www.wmur.com/article/new-hampshire-coronavirus-update-august-21-2020/33667169 Edited September 12, 2020 by Pratique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LXA350 Posted September 12, 2020 #216 Share Posted September 12, 2020 On 9/9/2020 at 11:54 PM, catlady66 said: I'm from Ohio & have booked the Jewel leaving Galveston on December 22nd. So they are not turning away out of state residents, at least in Texas. Besides, would that even be legal? Why shouldn't it be legal, it would be a temporary restriction implemented due to COVID restrictions. Since the risk of starting cruising within the next months is there and various concepts need to be implemented / support by government bodies to make sure that cruise ships would not be banned from docking and having passengers disembark, I wouldn't be suprised that the start there could be delayed due to bureaucratic reasons. Then of course the other requirement is to have numbers of new infections to go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time4u2go Posted September 12, 2020 #217 Share Posted September 12, 2020 11 hours ago, FTLCruiseGal said: You, my fellow cruiser, are awesome! If I had to estimate, you might be able,to tune 3-4 at a time. More than that, and the sopranos and altos get mixed up and tuning gets a bit complicated. Based upon that, they will all be tuned by Christmas. Now if you want fine tuning, that may take until Valentine’s Day. There's nothing worse than an out-of-tune crew member! 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted September 12, 2020 #218 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) Both the optimist and the pessimist have a valid point of view. But if the bus goes off the cliff, they both die.😉 Edited September 12, 2020 by John&LaLa 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bead Pirate Posted September 12, 2020 #219 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Watching the St. Maarten Port Cam right now... Can see crew rolling suitcases off the ship (Vision) onto the walkway. I know SXM has been allowing various lines to come in and debark/embark crew.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis#1 Posted September 12, 2020 #220 Share Posted September 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, Bead Pirate said: Watching the St. Maarten Port Cam right now... Can see crew rolling suitcases off the ship (Vision) onto the walkway. I know SXM has been allowing various lines to come in and debark/embark crew.... Would be a much better sign if crew were rolling their suitcases on the cruise ship in the St Maarten Port. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vera/Lee Posted September 12, 2020 #221 Share Posted September 12, 2020 4 hours ago, John&LaLa said: Both the optimist and the pessimist have a valid point of view. But if the bus goes off the cliff, they both die.😉 I'd rather die happy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vera/Lee Posted September 12, 2020 #222 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Bead Pirate said: Watching the St. Maarten Port Cam right now... Can see crew rolling suitcases off the ship (Vision) onto the walkway. I know SXM has been allowing various lines to come in and debark/embark crew.... Do you know where Vision was docked at before? Could she have picked up crew there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipeeinthepool Posted September 12, 2020 #223 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, John&LaLa said: Both the optimist and the pessimist have a valid point of view. But if the bus goes off the cliff, they both die.😉 Where's the Realist? He's not on the bus because he works to control his own destiny. Edited September 12, 2020 by ipeeinthepool 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipeeinthepool Posted September 12, 2020 #224 Share Posted September 12, 2020 On 9/11/2020 at 11:25 AM, Milwaukee Eight said: I believe the Port of Miami has a much better chance of survival than the cruise lines. M8 The Port of Miami has built a couple new cruise terminals that represent a lot of debt for the port. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted September 12, 2020 #225 Share Posted September 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, ipeeinthepool said: Where's the Realist? He's not on the bus because he works to control his own destiny. I’d say the realist is driving the bus. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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