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46 minutes ago, broberts said:

So what does one call a lover of food as art?

 

I forget which chef said this but food is unique because it plays on all five senses at the same time. 

 

8 minutes ago, clo said:

I wonder if one could love the art and not the food. Not I.

This will probably get the heave-ho but I'll try anyway.

 

https://www.chowhound.com/post/barcelona-tickets-bar-fun-good-food-878068

 

Spain is pretty famous for its food experimentation😉. El Buli use to be in Roses till the chef got bored of the business😂. San Sebastian has a lot of places similar to Tickets in Barcelona. 

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1 minute ago, ilikeanswers said:

 

I forget which chef said this but food is unique because it plays on all five senses at the same time. 

 

 

Spain is pretty famous for its food experimentation😉. El Buli use to be in Roses till the chef got bored of the business😂. San Sebastian has a lot of places similar to Tickets in Barcelona. 

Tickets Bar and several other places in Barcelona are owned by Ferran and Albert Adria, former owners of El Bulli.

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5 minutes ago, ilikeanswers said:

I forget which chef said this but food is unique because it plays on all five senses at the same time. 

 

And that includes "umami" inadequately described as "mouth feel" but we all know that 🙂

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1 minute ago, clo said:

And that includes "umami" inadequately described as "mouth feel" but we all know that 🙂

 

Not sure were you got that information from but Umami is classed as a taste next to bitter, sweet, salty and sour not a texture like crunchy, gooey, grainy or chewy🤔

Umami

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13 minutes ago, ilikeanswers said:

 

Not sure were you got that information from but Umami is classed as a taste next to bitter, sweet, salty and sour not a texture like crunchy, gooey, grainy or chewy🤔

Umami

This isn't where I know it from but it describes it the way I do.

 

What is the flavor of umami?
 
The tongue has 10,000 taste buds, each containing specific cells that are designed to be receptors for the sensations of sweet, salty, sour, bitter or umami. ... Finally, umami creates a sensation that chefs call mouth-feel. We tend to think of mouth-feel as the sensation we get from eating fat.Jan 10, 2008
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22 minutes ago, clo said:

This isn't where I know it from but it describes it the way I do.

 

What is the flavor of umami?
 
The tongue has 10,000 taste buds, each containing specific cells that are designed to be receptors for the sensations of sweet, salty, sour, bitter or umami. ... Finally, umami creates a sensation that chefs call mouth-feel. We tend to think of mouth-feel as the sensation we get from eating fat.Jan 10, 2008

 

Now I understand they are talking about it producing a sensation. I guess like sourness can give you a tingling (or if it is really sour burning😆) sensation.

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38 minutes ago, ilikeanswers said:

 

Now I understand they are talking about it producing a sensation. I guess like sourness can give you a tingling (or if it is really sour burning😆) sensation.

I kind of think of it as after I eat something there's 'something' going on in my mouth on my lips. Fattiness? Maybe. Foie gras certainly.

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16 hours ago, cruisemom42 said:

 

Hmmmm....🤔   Foodie (food lover) + Artie (art lover) = Fartie??  😉

Cruisemom, please forgive me for using this post to ask you a question. Actually, I could mention that we are finally getting to go to Jerusalem and Haifa as part of our Greek Islands cruise in May, 2022.

 

I have always come to you for help in the past. This is about Rome. We continue to choose Rome as our sailing port so that we can spend a few days in Rome. Question: How to get up to Aventine Hill for the Rose Garden and Orange tree garden without a tour. With a taxi, they would leave and as far as I know there's no taxi stand there so we would have to call another taxi.

 

And I notice that there are birthday wishes for you. Birthday blessings from Branson!!!

 

Thank you!

Bob and Lynda Patton

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2 hours ago, Preacherman46 said:

Cruisemom, please forgive me for using this post to ask you a question. Actually, I could mention that we are finally getting to go to Jerusalem and Haifa as part of our Greek Islands cruise in May, 2022.

 

I have always come to you for help in the past. This is about Rome. We continue to choose Rome as our sailing port so that we can spend a few days in Rome. Question: How to get up to Aventine Hill for the Rose Garden and Orange tree garden without a tour. With a taxi, they would leave and as far as I know there's no taxi stand there so we would have to call another taxi.

 

And I notice that there are birthday wishes for you. Birthday blessings from Branson!!!

 

Thank you!

Bob and Lynda Patton

 

Ciao Bob and Lynda!  So glad you are getting the chance to return to Rome again. The Aventine is probably one of the more underexplored parts of the city.

 

The Orange garden is a beautiful spot to visit. I don't know if you've already done it, but the "keyhole" view of St. Peter's is also very close by. And don't miss one of my favorite fountains -- it is featured in the movie "La Grande Bellezza" and the sculpture looks a bit like the "Mouth of Truth" (because both in antiquity were likely serving a similar function).

 

Also -- in case you want to make more of it, there is also nearby the wonderful basilica of Santa Sabena -- the oldest remaining basilica in Rome that still has its original (though partially restored) form. And even more wonderful if you like music is the nearby San Anselmo, a modern church but one of the few where they do an evening vespers service with Gregorian chants:  https://www.italyperfect.com/blog/perfect-ending-to-a-day-in-rome.html#:~:text=Go to the Vespers (evening,call and respond in Latin.  I think the service time varies by season but by memory it is around 7pm.

 

Anyway, getting to directions. If you only want to see the two gardens, you could take a taxi to get there. Have them drop you at the Rose Garden, then it is only a 5-7 minute walk (not too hilly) to the orange garden (Giardino degli Aranci).

 

Once there you could explore the other places I mention above or not. When you are done, you could walk another 5 minutes or so to the Hotel Aventino (10 Via di S. Domenico) and ask them to call a taxi for you. This is probably the simplest and least walking.

 

If you feel comfortable walking more and taking the city buses, I could give additional info. 

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1 hour ago, cruisemom42 said:

 

Ciao Bob and Lynda!  So glad you are getting the chance to return to Rome again. The Aventine is probably one of the more underexplored parts of the city.

 

This daughter of another "Lynda with a Y" has copied and emailed the information to herself in hopes of returning to Rome one of these years.

 

Thank you, Bob, Lynda, and Cruisemom42!

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4 minutes ago, MamaFej said:

This daughter of another "Lynda with a Y" has copied and emailed the information to herself in hopes of returning to Rome one of these years.

 

Thank you, Bob, Lynda, and Cruisemom42!

 

You're welcome. It does me much good to talk about actual travel as opposed to reasons why we cannot!

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20 hours ago, cruisemom42 said:

 

Ciao Bob and Lynda!  So glad you are getting the chance to return to Rome again. The Aventine is probably one of the more underexplored parts of the city.

 

The Orange garden is a beautiful spot to visit. I don't know if you've already done it, but the "keyhole" view of St. Peter's is also very close by. And don't miss one of my favorite fountains -- it is featured in the movie "La Grande Bellezza" and the sculpture looks a bit like the "Mouth of Truth" (because both in antiquity were likely serving a similar function).

 

Also -- in case you want to make more of it, there is also nearby the wonderful basilica of Santa Sabena -- the oldest remaining basilica in Rome that still has its original (though partially restored) form. And even more wonderful if you like music is the nearby San Anselmo, a modern church but one of the few where they do an evening vespers service with Gregorian chants:  https://www.italyperfect.com/blog/perfect-ending-to-a-day-in-rome.html#:~:text=Go to the Vespers (evening,call and respond in Latin.  I think the service time varies by season but by memory it is around 7pm.

 

Anyway, getting to directions. If you only want to see the two gardens, you could take a taxi to get there. Have them drop you at the Rose Garden, then it is only a 5-7 minute walk (not too hilly) to the orange garden (Giardino degli Aranci).

 

Once there you could explore the other places I mention above or not. When you are done, you could walk another 5 minutes or so to the Hotel Aventino (10 Via di S. Domenico) and ask them to call a taxi for you. This is probably the simplest and least walking.

 

If you feel comfortable walking more and taking the city buses, I could give additional info. 

So glad that I was finally able to find a way to get in touch with you! Haven't been on the forum for a long time. Maybe I should keep this tab up so that I can find you again. CC seems to have changed a lot so I'm no good at navigating it anymore. I found your page but didn't see how to get in touch with you there.

 

Generally we don't have a problem with walking except the time that we walked back to our place two blocks south of the Vatican from the Mouth of Truth area. Couldn't find a taxi. And another time, when on a cruise, we did the Parthenon and Pompeii!  🙂 

 

Yes, probably from much of your guidance over the years we have been to those places at the top. (Also, two times to Scavi from you advice!) Once with Romecabs (Stefano's) for Orange grove and Key Hole and Sabina Basilica. Bob has always hoped to go back to the Orange grove because of the optical illusion as you walk toward the wall. Another time with golf cart tour (My Best Tour) to the top of the rose garden.

 

Until now I didn't realize that the rose garden was above Circus Maximus. You can get a bit turned around on a tour. He had mentioned the connection of it having been a Jewish cemetery and the menorah shape. His historical version was a bit different than what I read later.

 

I did consider that we would have to call a taxi and, if I get the number, I could call from my cell phone? Do you think it would be a very different charge or issue if they picked us up at the top of the garden? I don't think we can exit from the bottom? I haven't checked out the church area that you are suggesting for getting a taxi but I did see a street on google map that goes down and ends by the Circus. We could walk down there?

I will also check on the church and timing for us for the Gregorian chants. We love that!

 

So great to be in touch with you. Hope that you have been ok.  Have thought of you often as I research things. One thing that I came across a couple of years ago was a little shop "La Bottega del Marmoraro" on via Margutta near the Spanish Steps. Many, many carrara marble plaques. We had him make a 50th anniversary plaque for us with wedding bands, our names, our years married (1968 - 2018) in Roman numerals and Roma on the bottom.

 

Lynda  🙂 

 

 

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On 2/20/2021 at 1:55 AM, ilikeanswers said:

 

It depends what you consider decent. Personally I thought their profit margins would be higher but they spend a lot of money on R&D so the profits get eaten by that. After all if you're going to charge $500 for a 20 course degustation you need to be serving more than steak and chips 😂. One patisserie chef in Melbourne said it took her five years to figure out how to develop the flakiest croissant. That croissant went on to win awards even the French said it was the best 🥐😋

If it took her 5 years to get the flakiest croissant then she doesn’t know the science behind baking. A 20 course degustation is nuts to me, but to each their own. 🙄

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