sugcarol Posted June 8, 2021 #51 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) I have a feeling that the cruiselines that have a health questionaire to fill out prior to sailing will have the question of are you fully vaccinated, if so please bring your CDC card with you at check in. Im not worried because cruisers want to be safe and majority want to be vaccinated themselves. Due to that alone outbreaks will not likely to take place. This is not March 2020 and the sky wont fall if a few passengers become ill and would likely be quarantined in their cabin like Noro, i would not shed a tear if they are confined to their cabin, they chose not to be protected. Edited June 8, 2021 by sugcarol 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocl Posted June 8, 2021 #52 Share Posted June 8, 2021 42 minutes ago, Ombud said: Alaska and Washington like the 95% vax rule. Imagine California / Newsome will too. He's strict. Sure. However it appears that Princess will not commit to vaccination until they have to. Implying that as soon as it is not required they will drop it. Not exactly an idle situation if one wants to be sure that the requirement for vaccination for any cruise they book in the next 6 to 12 months or so.. Would be better if Princess would just commit to vaccination for their cruises for the next X months at a minimum so one could be certain about what they were booking. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Ombud Posted June 8, 2021 #53 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, nocl said: Sure. However it appears that Princess will not commit to vaccination until they have to. Implying that as soon as it is not required they will drop it. Not exactly an idle situation if one wants to be sure that the requirement for vaccination for any cruise they book in the next 6 to 12 months or so.. Would be better if Princess would just commit to vaccination for their cruises for the next X months at a minimum so one could be certain about what they were booking. THANK YOU!! I always wish Newsome was clearer as 2 of the ports are in our state (LA & SF). Drop color code system, don't drop, install another system, WHATEVER. We're at 0.7% positivity rate, 66% with at least 1 shot, a little clarity here?? 😷😡 Edited June 8, 2021 by Ombud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebeluga Posted June 8, 2021 #54 Share Posted June 8, 2021 8 hours ago, nocl said: in other words they are requiring vaccination for the Alaska cruises because they have to if they want to get sailing quickly. Once the CDC let's them get away from the vaccine requirement without doing test cruises they will. I hope CDC will only drop the vaccination requirement when herd immunity is achieved or when covid behaves like a flu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocl Posted June 8, 2021 #55 Share Posted June 8, 2021 40 minutes ago, ebeluga said: I hope CDC will only drop the vaccination requirement when herd immunity is achieved or when covid behaves like a flu. I agree. I would like to see the cruise lines commit for a period of time so we know what to expect if we book a cruise. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted June 8, 2021 #56 Share Posted June 8, 2021 5 hours ago, sugcarol said: Im not worried because cruisers want to be safe and majority want to be vaccinated themselves. Due to that alone outbreaks will not likely to take place. Remember that a vaccine which is 94% effective means that each individual that had that vaccine is 94% less likely to end up with Covid-19. In other words, each vaccinated person is still 6% likely to end up with it if exposed. If a large number of unvaccinated individuals are on a cruise, it is likely that one or more will be carrying the virus on board and might end up infecting those in the 6% likely to get the virus when exposed to it. Pre-cruise testing might weed out some, but those who have the virus but not long enough to be detectable will pass that test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ontheweb Posted June 8, 2021 #57 Share Posted June 8, 2021 11 hours ago, memoak said: I still predict that eventually they we require vaccination if only because so many ports have low rates of vaccination and the ports will require vaccinations to dock, much like yellow fever in Brazil and Devils Island That does make sense. And if people complain, the cruise lines can reply its the fault of the ports; we have to have somewhere we can sail to. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChutChut Posted June 8, 2021 #58 Share Posted June 8, 2021 3 hours ago, ontheweb said: That does make sense. And if people complain, the cruise lines can reply its the fault of the ports; we have to have somewhere we can sail to. Eventually, countries will open up and no vaccines will be required to gain entry - especially dirt-poor Caribbean countries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted June 8, 2021 #59 Share Posted June 8, 2021 19 minutes ago, ChutChut said: "Likely that one or more will be carrying the virus?" Cite your proof.... 15,000 daily new cases of detected Covid-19 among unvaccinated people in the USA. Put 1000+ unvaccinated people on a cruise ship and there could easy be someone carrying the virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ontheweb Posted June 8, 2021 #60 Share Posted June 8, 2021 1 hour ago, ChutChut said: Eventually, countries will open up and no vaccines will be required to gain entry - especially dirt-poor Caribbean countries. Not all Caribbean countries are dirt poor. There are Bermuda and the Cayman Islands that are not dirt poor. Actually, I guess Bermuda is not technically a Caribbean country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing55 Posted June 8, 2021 #61 Share Posted June 8, 2021 5 hours ago, caribill said: 15,000 daily new cases of detected Covid-19 among unvaccinated people in the USA. Put 1000+ unvaccinated people on a cruise ship and there could easy be someone carrying the virus. One can spin it how one wants to. Diamond had only 20% infected.. with no vaccine and minimal controls. Now add in vaccinations and other controls... I'm cruising as long as ports are mostly open. I don't get all this attention to the vaccine on the ship. If one is concerned about getting it from others, wouldn't the port be the bigger issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted June 8, 2021 #62 Share Posted June 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Redwing55 said: One can spin it how one wants to. Diamond had only 20% infected.. with no vaccine and minimal controls. Minimal controls = confined to cabin for weeks. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Ombud Posted June 9, 2021 #63 Share Posted June 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Redwing55 said: One can spin it how one wants to. Diamond had only 20% infected.. with no vaccine and minimal controls. Now add in vaccinations and other controls... I'm cruising as long as ports are mostly open. I don't get all this attention to the vaccine on the ship. If one is concerned about getting it from others, wouldn't the port be the bigger issue? Only 20%? All things aside, my risk factor is currently at less than 0.05%. As previously stated: 7 hours ago, nocl said: in a 95% vaccinated ship the numbers would be more around 1 out of 6 to 7000 based upon vaccines reduction in asymptomatic cases. If you added full testing to vaccination it would drop to about 1 in 35,000 based upon current infection levels Now I realize both Florida & Texas are attempting to stop vaccinated cruises but Princess is only cruising from LA, SF, and Seattle so my next cruise is not affected. I have time to decide if I want to cruise from FL in December Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syracusefan44 Posted June 9, 2021 Author #64 Share Posted June 9, 2021 43 minutes ago, Ombud said: Only 20%? All things aside, my risk factor is currently at less than 0.05%. As previously stated: Now I realize both Florida & Texas are attempting to stop vaccinated cruises but Princess is only cruising from LA, SF, and Seattle so my next cruise is not affected. I have time to decide if I want to cruise from FL in December Well another cruise line has made vaccine cards optional but if you don’t voluntarily show it when you embark you will be deemed unvaccinated and be required to pay for the COVID19 testing. Have read that the cruise line will charge each unvaccinated $250 per test. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cscurlock Posted June 9, 2021 #65 Share Posted June 9, 2021 16 minutes ago, Syracusefan44 said: Well another cruise line has made vaccine cards optional but if you don’t voluntarily show it when you embark you will be deemed unvaccinated and be required to pay for the COVID19 testing. Have read that the cruise line will charge each unvaccinated $250 per test. That and once 5% unvaccinated have boarded then if you don't volunteer your vaccine information you won't be able to board so they can meet the 95% threshold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocl Posted June 9, 2021 #66 Share Posted June 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Ombud said: Only 20%? All things aside, my risk factor is currently at less than 0.05%. As previously stated: Now I realize both Florida & Texas are attempting to stop vaccinated cruises but Princess is only cruising from LA, SF, and Seattle so my next cruise is not affected. I have time to decide if I want to cruise from FL in December The problem is that so far Princess has only committed to 95% vaccination for the Alaska cruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRNole47 Posted June 9, 2021 #67 Share Posted June 9, 2021 On 6/3/2021 at 3:01 PM, kiwimum said: For Princess there will be unvaccinated individuals on board. Children under 12, medical and religious reasons. The PCL rep said they will have a 5% buffer of non-vacc'd pax to allow for children under 12 and those with specific approved exemptions, as kiwimum posted. BTW Cruise passengers test positive for Covid-19 in Italy (msn.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyfromwyk Posted June 10, 2021 #68 Share Posted June 10, 2021 https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7021e3.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beg3yrs Posted June 10, 2021 #69 Share Posted June 10, 2021 On 6/9/2021 at 2:25 PM, PRNole47 said: The PCL rep said they will have a 5% buffer of non-vacc'd pax to allow for children under 12 and those with specific approved exemptions, as kiwimum posted. BTW Cruise passengers test positive for Covid-19 in Italy (msn.com) Thanks for the article. No hysteria there, just follow the protocols and continue the cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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