Biker19 Posted September 24, 2021 #376 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Random thought - if the conventional wisdom says that RCI makes more money on suites, why put less of them on a brand new ship? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted September 24, 2021 #377 Share Posted September 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Biker19 said: Random thought - if the conventional wisdom says that RCI makes more money on suites, why put less of them on a brand new ship? Someone did the math. Hopefully they got good grades in school. Maybe constraining supply lets them charge more. This ship was not supposed to be in the Caribbean, so the math might not make sense now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted September 24, 2021 #378 Share Posted September 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, Pratique said: This ship was not supposed to be in the Caribbean, so the math might not make sense now. One assumes the RCI accountants know that a ship with a 25+ year span will not be limited to a single market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare twangster Posted September 24, 2021 #379 Share Posted September 24, 2021 I "wonder" how much this change in the suite capacity may be a glimpse into Icon. One would think they know better than to design a ship for a single market to the extent they have with Wonder. Lesson learned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted September 24, 2021 #380 Share Posted September 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, Biker19 said: One assumes the RCI accountants know that a ship with a 25+ year span will not be limited to a single market. Do you happen to know the number of berths? I'm guessing that it is more than the other O class ships. Maybe more bodies on board = more money if so much revenue is generated on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted September 24, 2021 #381 Share Posted September 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, twangster said: I "wonder" how much this change in the suite capacity may be a glimpse into Icon. One would think they know better than to design a ship for a single market to the extent they have with Wonder. Lesson learned. I never understood the logic behind putting an O class ship anywhere other than the Caribbean where it can run regular routes year-round at full capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted September 24, 2021 #382 Share Posted September 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, Pratique said: Do you happen to know the number of berths? I'm guessing that it is more than the other O class ships. Maybe more bodies on board = more money if so much revenue is generated on board. Most sources say 5734 double occupancy capacity, so about 200 more than her sisters. Most RCG SEC statements mention making most of their profit from on board sales so maybe the conventional wisdom was wrong and that more passengers offsets any loss of suite cabin revenue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandamonia Posted September 24, 2021 #383 Share Posted September 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, Pratique said: I never understood the logic behind putting an O class ship anywhere other than the Caribbean where it can run regular routes year-round at full capacity. Maybe it has something to do with the hurricanes lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK34 Posted September 24, 2021 #384 Share Posted September 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Pratique said: Possible but not likely. More likely that all Star Class guests were re-accommodated in Sky Class first. LOL Guess not. I was star class relocated to sea class 🥲 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Baltic Posted September 24, 2021 #385 Share Posted September 24, 2021 29 minutes ago, Pratique said: I never understood the logic behind putting an O class ship anywhere other than the Caribbean where it can run regular routes year-round at full capacity. I wish I could sail out of Barcelona or Rome for some of the prices I see out of the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted September 24, 2021 #386 Share Posted September 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, PK34 said: I was star class relocated to sea class 🥲 Yeah saw your post right before mine. Are you going to cancel or stick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK34 Posted September 24, 2021 #387 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Pratique said: Yeah saw your post right before mine. Are you going to cancel or stick? I need to call and talk to them. I’m appalled that they did this. I would expect Sky class at the bare minimum with substantial OBC. Unfortunately, I think I’m out of luck. Pretty disappointed with Royal right now. Edited September 24, 2021 by PK34 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherriZ366 Posted September 25, 2021 #388 Share Posted September 25, 2021 12 hours ago, Teeara said: If you're on the WB TA in October, come over to our Roll Call! Does your WB end in Port Canaveral or Ft. Lauderdale? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherriZ366 Posted September 25, 2021 #389 Share Posted September 25, 2021 6 hours ago, Pratique said: They are still repricing, can't wait to see how that turns out. Now offering full suite benefits in the JS plus $300 OBC as a consolation prize. Still not worth it to us. Is that just for the cruise that you originally booked on Allure or for all JSs going forward? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted September 25, 2021 #390 Share Posted September 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, SherriZ366 said: Is that just for the cruise that you originally booked on Allure or for all JSs going forward? Probably just for the reservations that were moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONECRUISER Posted September 25, 2021 #391 Share Posted September 25, 2021 6 hours ago, Billy Baltic said: I wish I could sail out of Barcelona or Rome for some of the prices I see out of the US. Yeah do feel for you. Only once in 35yrs(post 9/11) have paid less for Royal Caribbean Cruises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantgetaname Posted September 25, 2021 #392 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Will the summer season for Wonder be the same for 2023 do you think? Or will it be moving somewhere else by then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrateslife4me84 Posted September 25, 2021 #393 Share Posted September 25, 2021 52 minutes ago, cantgetaname said: Will the summer season for Wonder be the same for 2023 do you think? Or will it be moving somewhere else by then? It’s usually a different Oasis class ship each summer but no one knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RG306 Posted September 25, 2021 #394 Share Posted September 25, 2021 The move from Allure to Wonder seems to have the biggest impact on suite passengers particularly on the TA sailings. I think everyone's situation different and pricing for my initial sailing would play a huge factor in my decision regardless of category. We initially booked a JS on the Explorer for 2020 did a L&S to Harmony then a L&S to Allure. According to our current balance in the cruise planner, the wonder is over $7000 cdn MORE than what we paid just for a JS. If Royal can sell cabins at that much of a higher price point, it doesn't give much incentive to retain existing bookings. I hope everyone is able to get solutions that work for them, it's been almost 2 years of disappointing vacation cancellations and 2022 needs to be better 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted September 25, 2021 #395 Share Posted September 25, 2021 14 hours ago, SherriZ366 said: Does your WB end in Port Canaveral or Ft. Lauderdale? Hi Sherri. Our westbound 2022 TA on Wonder ends now in PC. Original Allure was to end in Galveston. One cancelled on Allure previous to Covid shut down before that, was to end in Miami. I am thrilled ours ends now in PC...just a taxi ride home. No air flight to deal with! 😄 I ended up lucky on all accounts there....after some initial nail biting. 😮 Just hope it continues to play out that way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherriZ366 Posted September 26, 2021 #396 Share Posted September 26, 2021 On 9/25/2021 at 10:26 AM, island lady said: Hi Sherri. Our westbound 2022 TA on Wonder ends now in PC. Original Allure was to end in Galveston. One cancelled on Allure previous to Covid shut down before that, was to end in Miami. I am thrilled ours ends now in PC...just a taxi ride home. No air flight to deal with! 😄 I ended up lucky on all accounts there....after some initial nail biting. 😮 Just hope it continues to play out that way. Thanks Pat. I'm interested to see if Wonder will replace Harmony for the rest of 2022-2023. We have HM bookings for December 2022 and February 2023. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted September 26, 2021 #397 Share Posted September 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, SherriZ366 said: Thanks Pat. I'm interested to see if Wonder will replace Harmony for the rest of 2022-2023. We have HM bookings for December 2022 and February 2023. I doubt it after the current debacle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherriZ366 Posted September 26, 2021 #398 Share Posted September 26, 2021 15 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: I doubt it after the current debacle Hope you're right -- I would rather stay on Harmony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbear232 Posted September 27, 2021 #399 Share Posted September 27, 2021 On 9/15/2021 at 10:43 AM, Tatka said: Very strange.. On one hand seems like China can control virus the best, on the other hand this... Not at all, they just lied. Massive number of deaths in China at start of pandemic. There are a number of other countries (including India and Brazil) whose reporting can best be described as farcical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Teeara Posted September 27, 2021 #400 Share Posted September 27, 2021 On 9/24/2021 at 8:00 PM, SherriZ366 said: Does your WB end in Port Canaveral or Ft. Lauderdale? Port Canaveral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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