Sapphire casino tier and above allowed in the Retreat/Michaels club again?

[cruisestitch]

That’s where the retreat concierge is for one thing

[Paulras]

3 hours ago, cruising teacher said:

All Zenith members should be voicing their displeasure at being excluded from  this amenity. Or an alternative option should be available 

They should too. There are usually just as few (if any) on the cruises I've been on who aren't already in a suite. 

[Paulras]

1 hour ago, cruisestitch said:

That’s where the retreat concierge is for one thing

One of the best perks of being in there. Especially for the priority tenders, disembarkation, etc. and restaurant reservations.

[fstuff1]

I'm on the summit 4 day.

Asked in the Retreat lounge.

Sapphire and above still not allowed.

 

And unlike my silloutte 9 day, no $100 obc for our inconvenience ☹️

 

[wrk2cruise]

I don't think they are going to yield on this until they are back to 100% booking.

[C-Dragons]

12 minutes ago, wrk2cruise said:

I don't think they are going to yield on this until they are back to 100% booking.

I think you are correct.

X is sailing with most, if not all Suites booked. I can confirm, from personal experience when we were booked in a Suite on the Edge in July, that the Retreat lounge was packed every single day. Though all Suite guests paid for access and expected to enjoy the lounge, many would arrive to find no seating available.

Part of the problem is that the Retreat lounges were not built large enough to accommodate the majority of the Suite guests to begin with, let alone any Zenith members. I don’t see how this can be corrected on current ships, but hopefully has been on Beyond and the next E class new build.

[WonderMan3]

What is so fascinating about the Retreat Lounge? I mean it's a nice space, especially if you are on Edge class, but there are so many other more interesting spaces on these ships beyond this lounge. On my cruises the only times I have spent there are on embark day usually to coordinate some things with the concierge and on debark day for the escorted disembarkation. I really get the feeling that it weighs more importance to people now that it has been taken away as a benefit kind of like how people went crazy over the Sky Lounge (which I always found empty on my cruises save for the Elite parties) being missing from Edge class or the Solstice Deck (which I always found empty save for my one Reflection cruise) being turned into the Retreat sundeck.

[Alakegirl]

Access to the concierge is important, and now has been taken away from those loyal gamblers and long-time cruisers.  

[fstuff1]

4 hours ago, WonderMan3 said:

What is so fascinating about the Retreat Lounge? I mean it's a nice space, especially if you are on Edge class, but there are so many other more interesting spaces on these ships beyond this lounge. On my cruises the only times I have spent there are on embark day usually to coordinate some things with the concierge and on debark day for the escorted disembarkation. I really get the feeling that it weighs more importance to people now that it has been taken away as a benefit kind of like how people went crazy over the Sky Lounge (which I always found empty on my cruises save for the Elite parties) being missing from Edge class or the Solstice Deck (which I always found empty save for my one Reflection cruise) being turned into the Retreat sundeck.

i've only been in the Retreat once and that was the cruise after i turned Sapphire.

then covid hit.

it was new to me. i liked it.

 

but like the happy hr at the sky lounge, the novelty would probably wear off.

but it hasnt yet since i've only been there for 1 sailing.

 

Edited October 28, 2021 by fstuff1

[mn1111]

I usually book suites so it doesn't affect me personally but if it did, it isn't a perk that would ensure my loyalty.  

 

For them to get me to book in the short term depends on the discount I get for a suite upgrade and for them to earn my continual play in the long term depends on the table rules and how fair of a gamble they give us.  Right now I am only playing craps or the european roulette wheel onboard which at least offers the same odds (and in the case of roulette even better) as land based casinos.  For them to get my blackjack play, they need to offer surrender and stop hitting on a soft 17 (at the very minimum).  No amount of free drinks or concierge perks would ever entice me to play with their horrible BJ rules.  For the amount of money I put on the table, I'd rather buy my own drinks and have better table odds.  I don't mind losing, but I don't want to feel like I am being ripped off either.

 

Any one who plays fairly heavy has a lot of options for comped vacations and cruising is just one of them.  Now if I could just stay off those slot machines when the crap table is closed, I would actually come out ahead once in a while!

[fstuff1]

28 minutes ago, mn1111 said:

I usually book suites so it doesn't affect me personally but if it did, it isn't a perk that would ensure my loyalty.  

 

For them to get me to book in the short term depends on the discount I get for a suite upgrade and for them to earn my continual play in the long term depends on the table rules and how fair of a gamble they give us.  Right now I am only playing craps or the european roulette wheel onboard which at least offers the same odds (and in the case of roulette even better) as land based casinos.  For them to get my blackjack play, they need to offer surrender and stop hitting on a soft 17 (at the very minimum).  No amount of free drinks or concierge perks would ever entice me to play with their horrible BJ rules.  For the amount of money I put on the table, I'd rather buy my own drinks and have better table odds.  I don't mind losing, but I don't want to feel like I am being ripped off either.

 

Any one who plays fairly heavy has a lot of options for comped vacations and cruising is just one of them.  Now if I could just stay off those slot machines when the crap table is closed, I would actually come out ahead once in a while!

you would rather play single zero roulette instead of 3:2 bj and dealer hits soft 17?!