pcur Posted May 11, 2022 #126 Share Posted May 11, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, hazeleyes46 said: Funny as many unvaccinated were worried about getting it from the vaccinated people lol. Almost all my vaccinated friends have had covid. Because vaccinated people are asymptomatic, or have milder symptoms? I can see that. Edited May 11, 2022 by pcur 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keksie Posted May 11, 2022 #127 Share Posted May 11, 2022 16 minutes ago, pcur said: My previous post was rather widely misinterpreted. I was concerned about GETTING COVID FROM unvaccinated people of any age. Interesting to note that while I've been mostly cruising since mid-February, coughing and hacking on board ship went from none to a friend going home with (non-COVID) pneumonia last week. It came on after masks were no longer required. Oh, it might assist some in their decisions to know, and read, that reinfections after having COVID certainly do happen. Me? I expect to get my 13th negative COVID test in 2.5 months when I get my masked face home in 2 days. Happy cruising, everyone!! Since anyone with covid, vaccinated or not can be contagious I would think that you would be concerned about either population. Good luck on that test since I have been reading a lot of posts stating that people tested positive even though they stayed masked and away from other people most of the time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucfan2 Posted May 11, 2022 #128 Share Posted May 11, 2022 OK w/ the protocols? Cruise if you’d like…..it’s a great time to cruise again. Not ok w/ protocols? Don’t cruise…..very simple. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcur Posted May 11, 2022 #129 Share Posted May 11, 2022 OK, back to cruising. I have found that, yet again, people are now getting respiratory illnesses on cruise ships. I could tell from the start of coughing right after masks were optional, and now, several weeks later, I'm listening to more and more. Draw your own conclusions, and make your own decisions. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcur Posted May 11, 2022 #130 Share Posted May 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, bucfan2 said: OK w/ the protocols? Cruise if you’d like…..it’s a great time to cruise again. Not ok w/ protocols? Don’t cruise…..very simple. True. I cruise with MY protocols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseygirl1416 Posted May 11, 2022 #131 Share Posted May 11, 2022 1 minute ago, pcur said: OK, back to cruising. I have found that, yet again, people are now getting respiratory illnesses on cruise ships. I could tell from the start of coughing right after masks were optional, and now, several weeks later, I'm listening to more and more. Draw your own conclusions, and make your own decisions. How about allergy season??? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucfan2 Posted May 11, 2022 #132 Share Posted May 11, 2022 1 minute ago, pcur said: True. I cruise with MY protocols. As long as they don’t conflict w/ the approved protocols, that’s perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcur Posted May 11, 2022 #133 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Just now, Jerseygirl1416 said: How about allergy season??? We have a severe allergy season in No CA: this sounds different. Plus, I heard nothing in Feb and early Mar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcur Posted May 11, 2022 #134 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Just now, bucfan2 said: As long as they don’t conflict w/ the approved protocols, that’s perfect. My protocols are test before each cruise on my own, wear a mask in crowded areas, and try to stay off crowded elevators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcur Posted May 12, 2022 #135 Share Posted May 12, 2022 I'm like a walking, talking, typing guinea pig. I've been sailing from when testing was required, and masking, too; to no test and no masks. YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcur Posted May 12, 2022 #136 Share Posted May 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Jerseygirl1416 said: Oh ok so you can tell the difference by sound in a persons cough from allergies vs Covid? Maybe you need to take off your tin foil hat. Allergies, in No CA tend to be in the sinuses, with drier hacking coughs. What I am hearing over the last 10 days are more wet and "chesty" coughs. Just trying to be factual and help a little here................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucfan2 Posted May 12, 2022 #137 Share Posted May 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, pcur said: I'm like a walking, talking, typing guinea pig. I've been sailing from when testing was required, and masking, too; to no test and no masks. YMMV. That’s great, and we’re real proud of ya. For knowledge, what lines don’t require testing? I’d like to try them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BND Posted May 12, 2022 #138 Share Posted May 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, pcur said: Allergies, in No CA tend to be in the sinuses, with drier hacking coughs. What I am hearing over the last 10 days are more wet and "chesty" coughs. Just trying to be factual and help a little here................ Covid coughs are dry. Allergy/sinus coughs are wet. Look it up. I just got over a sinus infection I caught while on EN a couple of weeks ago (cold moved to sinuses almost immediately). It was a very productive cough and when tested when I got home, I was negative for flu and covid and was diagnosed with sinusitis. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcur Posted May 12, 2022 #139 Share Posted May 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, bucfan2 said: That’s great, and we’re real proud of ya. For knowledge, what lines don’t require testing? I’d like to try them. RCCL no longer requires testing. At least as of 5/2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcur Posted May 12, 2022 #140 Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, BND said: Covid coughs are dry. Allergy/sinus coughs are wet. Look it up. I just got over a sinus infection I caught while on EN a couple of weeks ago (cold moved to sinuses almost immediately). It was a very productive cough and when tested when I got home, I was negative for flu and covid and was diagnosed with sinusitis. OK, clarification needed again: I'm talking about repiratory infections in general, and one of our group went home 2 days ago, tested negative for COVID, and was diagnosed with pneumonia. I also heard a LOT of similar coughing around the ship (like I used to when I would come home with an URI). So not interested in this debate any more. Time for the DL and dinner. Happy cruising. Edited May 12, 2022 by pcur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucfan2 Posted May 12, 2022 #141 Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, pcur said: RCCL no longer requires testing. At least as of 5/2. You’re talking on B2B…completely missed that part of your discussion. Thanks. Edited May 12, 2022 by bucfan2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare rudeney Posted May 12, 2022 #142 Share Posted May 12, 2022 1 hour ago, pcur said: RCCL no longer requires testing. At least as of 5/2. Huh? So is this not correct: https://www.royalcaribbean.com/faq/questions/will-i-have-to-take-a-test-before-i-cruise#united-states 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted May 12, 2022 #143 Share Posted May 12, 2022 4 hours ago, pcur said: RCCL no longer requires testing. At least as of 5/2. That’s not correct, at all. (Exception being second leg of B2B) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coralc Posted May 12, 2022 #144 Share Posted May 12, 2022 4 hours ago, pcur said: Allergies, in No CA tend to be in the sinuses, with drier hacking coughs. What I am hearing over the last 10 days are more wet and "chesty" coughs. Just trying to be factual and help a little here................ That's what I have! Runny nose and a wet drippy cough. I don't know if it is a souvenir from the cruise or something I picked up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BND Posted May 12, 2022 #145 Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, pcur said: OK, clarification needed again: I'm talking about repiratory infections in general, and one of our group went home 2 days ago, tested negative for COVID, and was diagnosed with pneumonia. I also heard a LOT of similar coughing around the ship (like I used to when I would come home with an URI). So not interested in this debate any more. Time for the DL and dinner. Happy cruising. I love when people get corrected on something that can be proven, that they're "not interested in debating anymore". You posted something, I countered with a fact. Upper respiratory infections(which include colds and sinusitis as well as bronchitis/pneumonia) cause productive coughs. Covid does not. Edited May 12, 2022 by BND 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucfan2 Posted May 12, 2022 #146 Share Posted May 12, 2022 24 minutes ago, BND said: I love when people get corrected on something that can be proven, that they're "not interested in debating anymore". You posted something, I countered with a fact. Upper respiratory infections(which include colds and sinusitis as well as bronchitis/pneumonia) cause productive coughs. Covid does not. Indeed. And all credibility was lost when they 'no more testing required'...and then, crickets..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazeleyes46 Posted May 12, 2022 #147 Share Posted May 12, 2022 14 hours ago, pcur said: Because vaccinated people are asymptomatic, or have milder symptoms? I can see that. Actually one of our friends, a couple, whom we had very close contact with and never got Covid from, one is vaccinated, the other is not. Both got covid, both had the exact same symptoms, nothing less from the vaccinated one. I think it all does depend on person to person though and how good your immune system is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcur Posted May 12, 2022 #148 Share Posted May 12, 2022 54 minutes ago, bucfan2 said: Indeed. And all credibility was lost when they 'no more testing required'...and then, crickets..... I'm on my 4th of 4 cruises b2b on the Navigator. We no longer had to be tested for the 5/2 cruise. I was told by the ship staff I spoke with, that all pre-cruise testing was no longer required. This may be ship-specific, and not fleetwide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted May 12, 2022 #149 Share Posted May 12, 2022 1 minute ago, pcur said: I was told by the ship staff I spoke with, that all pre-cruise testing was no longer required. I think the folks not on a B2B would have told you that the staff was wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcur Posted May 12, 2022 #150 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Just now, Biker19 said: I think the folks not on a B2B would have told you that the staff was wrong. Maybe specific to the Navi here on the West Coast???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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