Quarantine - APEX TA & British Isles Cruises

[RoamingRetirees]

2 hours ago, whirlybird3 said:

 

Is Celebrity testing everyone on B2B sailing out of Rome?

 

 

We were tested the day before we got to Rome on the TA. We were told if we tested positive we would have to get off. However, they actually had the positive cases stay on the ship for quarantine. While not a great thing to have happen, they were treated similarly to the OP of this thread, except they were put on deck 3 in OV cabins, not balconies.

[sgmn]

12 hours ago, JeanieC,Aston said:

 

I was on Silhouette first sailing out of Southampton which attracted 2800 passengers,the next one had 2500 passengers to the fjords.

Reports that the current sailing is down to 1500…Why?
 

Those on Beyond report the ship being 1/3rd full,,,,staff just hanging around with nothing to do,,,,one report says a staff member has told him X has told him to take his leave (1 month) early.Oh the irony!!!

Is it fear of quarantine,USA rules on re entry.fear of catching COVID?

Or what plenty of Brits  are saying is it the brutal pricing policy of X European cruises.

Or have Celebrity shot themselves in the foot by putting so many ships in Europe.

I was on Silhouette Fjords 07May and it was pretty full. The next cruise, 14th was a Baltic one I believe. Was it originally a St Petersburg cruise? Maybe its been affected by the war in Ukraine and tension in Finland, Estonia etc. 

We did hear the 14th cruise was only half full and there had been lots of cancellations

[Citrons]

23 hours ago, Ex-Airbalancer said:

Sorry to hear that, my wife tested positive also , but they did move her to a balcony on that day from an ov 

she had check her iwatch after she was in the balcony it showed her oxygen levels were under 90% when she was in the ov 

 

I wonder if everyone had to a PCR test to board a ship would there be anyone on the ship ? 
because the way place do the quick test it really not up the same Standard

 

 

Its kind of pointless doing PCR test to board if there is already people on the ship with covid and the ports of call also leave it open to catch covid.

 

We did not have covid boarding the Odyssey but left our cruise with covid. We suspected there was covid quarantine people in the room next to ours on deck 7. I thought covid deck was only deck 3. Then we find out that positive covid people were in fact in quarantine in balcony rooms next to us on deck 6 and deck 7.

 

Defeats the purpose of healthy covid free people boarding a ship which has covid cases on board.

[Mark_T]

59 minutes ago, Citrons said:

Defeats the purpose of healthy covid free people boarding a ship which has covid cases on board.

... all bets are off once passengers go ashore at the first port regardless of who is next to you...

 

There is too much theatre about the current pre-cruise testing sadly...

[taznremmy]

@suzyluvs2cruise Hi Sue!  Checking in to see how you and Jim are doing?  Hope all is still going well, 

Pat

[Bo1953]

2 hours ago, Citrons said:

Its kind of pointless doing PCR test to board if there is already people on the ship with covid and the ports of call also leave it open to catch covid.

 

We did not have covid boarding the Odyssey but left our cruise with covid. We suspected there was covid quarantine people in the room next to ours on deck 7. I thought covid deck was only deck 3. Then we find out that positive covid people were in fact in quarantine in balcony rooms next to us on deck 6 and deck 7.

 

Defeats the purpose of healthy covid free people boarding a ship which has covid cases on board.

I concur, yet there are a few posters who really, really, really want to quarantine in their original cabin not worrying about spreading C-19 by being on the balcony with passengers on either side who do not test positive.

 

IMO what defeats the purpose is not corralling all who contracted C-19 in one area... while nice to stay in the cabin we ordered upon booking, if ill then all be in one area for observation and any treatment necessary.

 

In health and bon voyage

[suzyluvs2cruise]

54 minutes ago, taznremmy said:

@suzyluvs2cruise Hi Sue!  Checking in to see how you and Jim are doing?  Hope all is still going well, 

Pat

We're doing well...thanks for asking. A bit bummed that we're overnight  in Liverpool....a new port....and we can't get off. Also in river side so not able to see as much. Oh well....it could be a lot worse

[Jim_Iain]

On 5/16/2022 at 5:55 PM, mickeysgal said:

What an absolute nightmare. I can’t imagine what you all are going through.  
 

Is your 10 day max quarantine tied to the requirements of your disembark port?  Italy has a max 21 day quarantine or negative test whichever comes first. So for those cruises that end there, does that mean could be in ship quarantine for a possible full 21 days? 

The UK has no quarantine requirement and is up to the person what they want to do.  They suggest 5 day but all regulations have been eliminated.    The U.S. requires either a negative test 1 day prior to flying or a certificate of recovery (accompanied by a proctored positive test results at least 10 days prior to flying) 

 

In my case even though I had been tested positive the day before departure I was escorted off the ship into a baggage area with about 250 people (none wearing masks).  

 

We got Certificates of Recovery to not have to deal with testing as we had already planned a trip to visit family.   We quarantined for 5 days and continued to stay away from family except outside for 5 more days to make sure we didn't infect and of our unaccredited Grand Nieces and Nephews.

 

LHR airport and Flight home on United only about 5% of Flight Attendants and Passengers were wearing masks.

 

In retrospect I guess we were lucky I tested early on the Pre-May 1 policy.

[Citrons]

1 hour ago, Mark_T said:

... all bets are off once passengers go ashore at the first port regardless of who is next to you...

 

There is too much theatre about the current pre-cruise testing sadly...

Yes and thats why we got covid on Odyssey - be it on the ship or at ports of call.

[Ride-The-Waves]

Gathering data from a series of these types of threads it appears that COVID manifests itself around day 4-7, implying it comes on board and makes the rounds outhouse who decline to mask and distance.  The result generates a lot of whining and "woe is me" on these threads.  Not unsympathetic, but those of us who have travel extensively in foreign lands know that contact can bring changes to intended programs.  Cruisers caught up in quarantines and testing positive should know that traveling during the pandemic can, and likely will, cause changes.  Flexibility is key.  Planning ahead and having options is key.  "Woe is me" never helps.

[cruiseboy89130]

On 5/16/2022 at 4:33 PM, suzyluvs2cruise said:

We had to turn in our Passports yesterday in Dover for British Immigration and have not yet received them back. I'm curious if they will be held 🤔 and what the process will be for us when we return to Amsterdam.

There is no way I would have given a cruise line my passport! They have no right to take it! I wouldn't have done it!

[cruiseerf]

18 minutes ago, cruiseboy89130 said:

There is no way I would have given a cruise line my passport! They have no right to take it! I wouldn't have done it!

For Many Many stops cruises make.  Throughout Asia, some European ports AND various spot checks throughout the world, Cruiselines often collect ALL Passports for Customs and immigration purposes.  Then The formalities are done quickly easily and early.  IF the local authorities require any further information they then call up the passengers they need to see.   For ships of 2-3K people in person immigration would take hours upon hours and delay entry into most ports FYI.   You can request a color copy of your passport and they will provide for reference etc, but we usually travel with them just in case. 

 

[Ride-The-Waves]

26 minutes ago, cruiseerf said:

For Many Many stops cruises make.  Throughout Asia, some European ports AND various spot checks throughout the world, Cruiselines often collect ALL Passports for Customs and immigration purposes.  Then The formalities are done quickly easily and early.  IF the local authorities require any further information they then call up the passengers they need to see.   For ships of 2-3K people in person immigration would take hours upon hours and delay entry into most ports FYI.   You can request a color copy of your passport and they will provide for reference etc, but we usually travel with them just in case. 

 

You can also request a Passport Card which works for border crossings other than by air.  We added them to our passport renewals last year.  The size of a credit card or driver's license, we use them for ID on and off the ship leaving the passports secure on the cabin safe.

[intr3pid]

11 hours ago, Mark_T said:

... all bets are off once passengers go ashore at the first port regardless of who is next to you...

 

There is too much theatre about the current pre-cruise testing sadly...

All bets are off once the masking and social distancing mandates go away in this environment. 

 

The captain doesn't have to tell us or the cruise lines doesn't have to mandate it - just be smart yourself. 

 

And, to be sure, it's no longer about just getting sick or hospitalized - it's this absolute travel logistics mayhem that unfolds once you test positive. 

[ShelleyQT]

11 hours ago, Bo1953 said:

I concur, yet there are a few posters who really, really, really want to quarantine in their original cabin not worrying about spreading C-19 by being on the balcony with passengers on either side who do not test positive.

 

IMO what defeats the purpose is not corralling all who contracted C-19 in one area... while nice to stay in the cabin we ordered upon booking, if ill then all be in one area for observation and any treatment necessary.

 

In health and bon voyage

 

Respectfully, one doesn't catch covid by being outside with others who have covid UNLESS they are right next to you for a significant period of time.  The air you are directly breathing has to be saturated with a heavy percentage of covid particles for someone to catch it.  On a cruise ship, especially a moving one, the air is moving around at such a rate that the chance of catching it from the balcony next door is statistically impossible.  

 

I've also seen that people who are quarantined on the ship, even in cabins on the "sick deck", are not exactly receiving top-notch medical attention...it seems most are reporting that they don't get checked on at all, except perhaps through an occasional phone call.

[cruiseboy89130]

5 hours ago, cruiseerf said:

For Many Many stops cruises make.  Throughout Asia, some European ports AND various spot checks throughout the world, Cruiselines often collect ALL Passports for Customs and immigration purposes.  Then The formalities are done quickly easily and early.  IF the local authorities require any further information they then call up the passengers they need to see.   For ships of 2-3K people in person immigration would take hours upon hours and delay entry into most ports FYI.   You can request a color copy of your passport and they will provide for reference etc, but we usually travel with them just in case. 

 

They don't need my passport as I'm not getting off anyway....

[Mark_T]

42 minutes ago, cruiseboy89130 said:

They don't need my passport as I'm not getting off anyway....

It doesn't matter if you are getting off or not in most cases, you still have to be cleared into the country at the first port...

[cruiseboy89130]

58 minutes ago, Mark_T said:

It doesn't matter if you are getting off or not in most cases, you still have to be cleared into the country at the first port...

So what happens when I refuse to give the cruise line  my passport?

It is the property of my country they have no right to confiscate or hold it!

Edited May 20, 2022 by cruiseboy89130

[Mark_T]

23 minutes ago, cruiseboy89130 said:

So what happens when I refuse to give the cruise line  my passport?

It is the property of my country they have no right to confiscate or hold it!

You already agreed to comply with the cruise lines procedures when you paid for the cruise, so it is too late to change your mind at that point...

 

This really is a very normal process and nothing to be afraid of, if you continue to cruise and perhaps travel a bit further away than you have so far, you will come across this process, as we have, many times.

Edited May 20, 2022 by Mark_T

[Ex-Airbalancer]

The crazy part of taking the of the passports on the Apex TA was the fack up getting them back 

they was no reason why we should have got them back as we got off the ship  , the immigration officer we talk with blame Celebrity for the fack up 

[Citrons]

14 hours ago, Ride-The-Waves said:

Gathering data from a series of these types of threads it appears that COVID manifests itself around day 4-7, implying it comes on board and makes the rounds outhouse who decline to mask and distance.  The result generates a lot of whining and "woe is me" on these threads.  Not unsympathetic, but those of us who have travel extensively in foreign lands know that contact can bring changes to intended programs.  Cruisers caught up in quarantines and testing positive should know that traveling during the pandemic can, and likely will, cause changes.  Flexibility is key.  Planning ahead and having options is key.  "Woe is me" never helps.

I disagree - we wore our masks getting off the ship at all ports of call. They are putting covid positive passengers in cabins on deck 6 and 7 right next to healthy non covid passengers.

 

Plenty of studies from the 1st cruise ships in the pandemic back in Feb 2020 that showed despite quarantining people in balcony rooms - covid spread to the healthy passengers in the rooms next to them. Be it through AC, passengers standing on balcony, when the covid passengers disembark and their covid rooms are re-used/open doors into the hallway

 

I travelled to Italy and Greece by flight the previous 6 months and never got covid on any of those trips. The covid measures were too lacking on the cruises - mainly to do with how they quarantine covid positive people in rooms next door to healthy ones.

Edited May 20, 2022 by Citrons

[Citrons]

7 hours ago, ShelleyQT said:

 

Respectfully, one doesn't catch covid by being outside with others who have covid UNLESS they are right next to you for a significant period of time.  The air you are directly breathing has to be saturated with a heavy percentage of covid particles for someone to catch it.  On a cruise ship, especially a moving one, the air is moving around at such a rate that the chance of catching it from the balcony next door is statistically impossible.  

 

I've also seen that people who are quarantined on the ship, even in cabins on the "sick deck", are not exactly receiving top-notch medical attention...it seems most are reporting that they don't get checked on at all, except perhaps through an occasional phone call.

The covid rooms next to us had their doors open into the hallway next to our room when the covid infected passengers left in crete - leaving it wide open for us non covid passengers to get covid in the same hallway since they are not following a proper red zone. Its ridiculous they have a red zone on deck 3, yet put covid people on deck 6 and deck 7 and do not section it off as a red zone from healthy passengers

Edited May 20, 2022 by Citrons

[Ex-Airbalancer]

Cabins should be  a negative pressure compared to the hall , and your bathroom negative compared to the cabins living area 

airflow should move hall to cabin living area to wc 

 

 

[Bo1953]

8 hours ago, ShelleyQT said:

 

Respectfully, one doesn't catch covid by being outside with others who have covid UNLESS they are right next to you for a significant period of time.  The air you are directly breathing has to be saturated with a heavy percentage of covid particles for someone to catch it.  On a cruise ship, especially a moving one, the air is moving around at such a rate that the chance of catching it from the balcony next door is statistically impossible.  

 

I've also seen that people who are quarantined on the ship, even in cabins on the "sick deck", are not exactly receiving top-notch medical attention...it seems most are reporting that they don't get checked on at all, except perhaps through an occasional phone call.

Methinks you have not taken into consideration that those whom you "... have also seen.." are from here on CC represent a very small group of those either who are on the ship and/or are in quarantine.

 

Many of us are vocal at that.

 

Now, were you to state that you are in touch with XX% number of those who are in quarantine (i.e. 15% at minimum) for me, your observations and statement would be very compelling along with how those who are being treated 'badly' and/or are not being checked on by X while in quarantine. Do you think, statistically, 15% is a good starting point to extrapolate what is really going on aboard for those who have contracted C-19 or not? Please confirm that you are or are not in touch with that number of non-CC posters, then we have a basis to further think about what X is really doing or not and can comment accordingly.

 

In health and bon voyage

[Bo1953]

6 hours ago, cruiseboy89130 said:

They don't need my passport as I'm not getting off anyway....

One never knows, for sure....

 

bon voyage