kaymoz Posted June 19, 2022 #1 Share Posted June 19, 2022 The other day I had to call Azamara with a question, happily reaching a rep with minimal wait, and she told me that the ships this summer would only be booked at 70% of capacity, to allow for social distancing. In spite of this continuing precaution, she told me that indoor masking is not required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShopperfiendTO Posted June 19, 2022 #2 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Could you elaborate what "this summer" means, starting July until September 2022? I thought I read that some ships earlier this month had over 500 passengers on them which is more than 70%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uktraveller Posted June 19, 2022 #3 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Journey 26th May 2022 had 620 passengers onboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les37b Posted June 19, 2022 #4 Share Posted June 19, 2022 3 hours ago, kaymoz said: The other day I had to call Azamara with a question, happily reaching a rep with minimal wait, and she told me that the ships this summer would only be booked at 70% of capacity, to allow for social distancing. In spite of this continuing precaution, she told me that indoor masking is not required. I believe she was trying to convince you to book with a fairy tale you would be pampered as they'd not be many others on board. Unsure if it's dishonest sales tactics by that staff member or an instruction 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miss-heli Posted June 20, 2022 #5 Share Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) We had over 600 passengers on our recent cruise Edited June 20, 2022 by miss-heli error 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackdogmolly Posted June 20, 2022 #6 Share Posted June 20, 2022 IMO, sales are just down 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oslo Dutch Posted June 20, 2022 #7 Share Posted June 20, 2022 We are on the 06JUL CPH to STO Baltic and from what I gather only around 300 are booked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaymoz Posted June 20, 2022 Author #8 Share Posted June 20, 2022 OP here....I'm just reporting on what the woman told me about that 70%, which frankly surprised me. I'd already booked for late July so it seemed clear that it applied to our sailing, but I didn't ask her for specific dates. In my last few calls, the wait times were much more reasonable than, say, a month ago, so calling for more specifics related to individual situations might not be a big hassle if it matters. It wouldn't affect my decision! Wikipedia cites the max passenger capacity for Pursuit as 777 (maybe that is maxing out all the fold-out berths?). At 70%, I come up with 543. Onward is listed for 826 max, so that would be 578. I can't explain 600 mentioned earlier unless someone rounded up from five hundred something! Or maybe there is a totally different calculation that wraps in all the people aboard, passengers and crew? OR something else?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miss-heli Posted June 21, 2022 #9 Share Posted June 21, 2022 15 hours ago, kaymoz said: OP here....I'm just reporting on what the woman told me about that 70%, which frankly surprised me. I'd already booked for late July so it seemed clear that it applied to our sailing, but I didn't ask her for specific dates. In my last few calls, the wait times were much more reasonable than, say, a month ago, so calling for more specifics related to individual situations might not be a big hassle if it matters. It wouldn't affect my decision! Wikipedia cites the max passenger capacity for Pursuit as 777 (maybe that is maxing out all the fold-out berths?). At 70%, I come up with 543. Onward is listed for 826 max, so that would be 578. I can't explain 600 mentioned earlier unless someone rounded up from five hundred something! Or maybe there is a totally different calculation that wraps in all the people aboard, passengers and crew? OR something else?! We were on the Pursuit and Captain announced 620 on board🤷♀️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaymoz Posted June 22, 2022 Author #10 Share Posted June 22, 2022 These numbers are crazy, so (now that there is no hold time anymore!) I picked up the phone and called Azamara again. This time the rep initially told me the ships were sailing at 50% capacity, but when I explained I'd been told 70%, etc., then he put me on hold and went off to check. He came back and corrected himself, telling me that the capacity was no longer being limited, but mentioned that he didn't know when the limitations were removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare uktog Posted June 22, 2022 #11 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Why are the numbers crazy? Like all the lines it’s heading back to full capacity- economically no line can survive running at reduced numbers longer term. Nowhere else is reduced - planes, hotels, tourist venues unless they are using it as a cover for the fact they can’t operate because they can’t get staff. (That’s what some hotels in the US are doing, Intercontinental admitted as much to us in New Orleans when we spoke to management about a shocking service less experience) It does take a bit getting used to being back in busier places but it’s a step along the road we had to take. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCruise Posted June 23, 2022 #12 Share Posted June 23, 2022 On 6/19/2022 at 2:55 PM, kaymoz said: The other day I had to call Azamara with a question, happily reaching a rep with minimal wait, and she told me that the ships this summer would only be booked at 70% of capacity, to allow for social distancing. In spite of this continuing precaution, she told me that indoor masking is not required. Depends on where you are sailing. Just got off Journey and masks were required in all indoor venues except actively eating or drinking. Compliance was around 90% or so. Always the same handful of non-compliant, strolling everywhere unmasked including crawling along the buffet line in Windows. No challenge from staff whatsoever. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzasteve Posted June 23, 2022 #13 Share Posted June 23, 2022 I heard there are staff shortages, so the under capacity for rooms might be full capacity for the number of staff available. There can be multiple reasons for sailing under 100%, such as staffing shortage, lack of sales, certain rooms being reserved for staff, quarentines, rooms needing repairs, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShopperfiendTO Posted June 24, 2022 #14 Share Posted June 24, 2022 On 6/22/2022 at 2:49 AM, uktog said: Why are the numbers crazy? Like all the lines it’s heading back to full capacity- economically no line can survive running at reduced numbers longer term. Nowhere else is reduced - planes, hotels, tourist venues unless they are using it as a cover for the fact they can’t operate because they can’t get staff. (That’s what some hotels in the US are doing, Intercontinental admitted as much to us in New Orleans when we spoke to management about a shocking service less experience) It does take a bit getting used to being back in busier places but it’s a step along the road we had to take. Perhaps it's because the person was told one thing and was provided numerous first-hand accounts from other cruisers that were completely inconsistent with what he/she was told by the representative. Try as one might in possibly deflecting it as poor or still-in-training of the customer service representatives, it doesn't reflect very well on the cruise line, especially if a person booked precisely because there was a capacity limit in place. Further, unless the definition of full capacity is changed, I wonder how ships can sail at current full capacity if there continues to be a need to hold some cabins empty in case they are needed for in-cruise quarantining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewheldon Posted June 24, 2022 #15 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Onward June 4 was 389 and June 11 was 411. They were great cruises. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCruise Posted June 24, 2022 #16 Share Posted June 24, 2022 As mentioned, varies a lot by sailing. Journey 26 May, 518. Journey 5 June, 184. They are trying to ramp up, but there still are staff shortages, aggravated by quarantines for positive cases and close contacts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare uktog Posted June 24, 2022 #17 Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) Isn't all this kind of irrelevant - I accept valid information from a call handler is important but this is not a subject I would expect them to be regularly briefed on. I would rather there was accuracy on things like testing and regular briefings on that The cruise line will have a base maximum beyond which they will not sell cabins. It will be less than the usual 695 to address space for isolation and staff resources. That baseline is commercially sensitive, no one is going to tell you what it is. I hope to get on a ship soon, I have no idea how many passengers will be on board and it is not really any of my concern so long as it is not more than the available number of cabins/beds Edited June 24, 2022 by uktog 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les37b Posted June 24, 2022 #18 Share Posted June 24, 2022 4 hours ago, uktog said: I hope to get on a ship soon, I have no idea how many passengers will be on board and it is not really any of my concern so long as it is not more than the available number of cabins/beds You might not be saying that if they've finished all your shweppes tonic! Seems there were a fair few come down with COVID a day or so after returning from mine..... Not too surprised. Luckily they got home. Including the lady in the incubator, who held out until day one back at home. Very lucky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted June 24, 2022 #19 Share Posted June 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, les37b said: You might not be saying that if they've finished all your shweppes tonic! I’m packing my own. I really can’t drink that Royal Club stuff 😆 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les37b Posted June 24, 2022 #20 Share Posted June 24, 2022 22 minutes ago, Beamafar said: I’m packing my own. I really can’t drink that Royal Club stuff 😆 Don't put them in your suitcase on the plane! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted June 24, 2022 #21 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Just now, les37b said: Don't put them in your suitcase on the plane! lol They serve canned drinks on the plane. Thought they’d be ok in the cases. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baynanno1 Posted June 25, 2022 #22 Share Posted June 25, 2022 All carbonated drinks are fine to bring in checked bags, but even if carefully packed, there’s a good chance it’ll explode in your suitcase due to changes in air pressure. Probably better to purchase between flight and cruise! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host Jazzbeau Posted June 25, 2022 #23 Share Posted June 25, 2022 6 hours ago, Beamafar said: They serve canned drinks on the plane. Thought they’d be ok in the cases. They keep them in the passenger compartment (pressurized), not in the baggage hold (non-pressurized). Big difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackdogmolly Posted June 25, 2022 #24 Share Posted June 25, 2022 12 hours ago, les37b said: You might not be saying that if they've finished all your shweppes tonic! Pretty sure that @uktogis a Fevertree gal 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted June 25, 2022 #25 Share Posted June 25, 2022 9 hours ago, Host Jazzbeau said: They keep them in the passenger compartment (pressurized), not in the baggage hold (non-pressurized). Big difference. I was just thinking that! Have some Fevertree elderflower flavoured ones I was also going to bring, too - ah, well (sigh). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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