Chair Hogs Alive & Kicking

[Bxc53]

I guess I’ve been mistaken all this time . I thought the chairs with towels were thoughtfully setup by the pool attendant as a nice perk. I just pick one and settle in.
 

Being of a certain age, plus size and mostly deaf, if someone comes by to discuss chair ownership, I just point to my ear and say, loudly , that I left my hearing aids in the room. 

Works for me…

Edited September 26, 2022 by Bxc53

[Joebucks]

30 minutes ago, FamilyCruiserUK said:

From my experience:

Most people only really bothered about chair hogs around the pools. Other places on deck seem to be fine. Which is expected as the pool is the popular area. 

 

My favorite is the people who *must* sit by the pool. Only to complain it is too noisy, and to never go in the pool.

 

People are just jerks in general. I've had my stuff removed while I literally got up to get food and wasn't gone for more than 20 minutes. I also don't get the people that put their towels down for 5 hours and go elsewhere. 

 

There's almost always a spot somewhere.

[CanHardlyWait4NextYear]

OK, so what I've picked up on since last night is the signs about 30 minutes or your stuff will be removed is just signs. And asking or expecting staff to make a sweep of empty chairs periodically isn't really a thing to wait for. This is based on the replies since about 8pm last night. Kinda stinks after all the fuss yesterday. 

 

I was starting to think I didn't have to "stake my claim at 7am" cause the staff would be removing all the 6am no shows by 9am anyway. Lol.

 

Before I say this next part I have to say save your breath. It now looks like a "if you can't beat em, join em" situation.

 

I was good with staff say wait till top of the hour and we will make a sweep of the place or something. But if they don't follow through with the sign/rule, then.....

 

I'm good with being far from pool when outside. (Noise) But if in solarium, I would like my seat to be in solarium. Lol. The plan (up until yesterday) was up at 6am. Breakfast 7am. Grab chair by 730am worn out or not. Looks like I'm back to that. But that's cool. I didn't spend money to sleep. Just a shame that they don't actually enforce the rule. 

[bilyclub]

17 hours ago, jean87510 said:

So this is actually worth it?  Give me deck 5 or my balcony.

 

 

This doesn't even look like a Royal ship.  

[Ret MP]

12 hours ago, Sancho_proudfoot said:

Just back off Anthem.  Chair hogs in abundance.

 

Arrived in Madeira,  a port stop. Went up to deck 15, at 08.45, and there was a row of 5 chairs each "reserved" with a towel.

 

By 10.30 still unoccupied.  Went to the towel station and they came and removed the towels.

 

At 3.30 a woman appeared, wondering why "her" seats were occupied. Stomped off to complain,  and had the large sign alongside the towel station  pointed out to her.

People like that don't care if they are right or wrong.  It's ALL about them, period.  Rules are for everyone else.  Everyone else are the "unwashed".  

[kirtihk]

On 9/24/2022 at 11:33 PM, brillohead said:

On Explorer this past spring, I got the last chair in the Solarium at 6am.  

Only a handful of people actually in the Solarium at that time, but innumerable towels, flip flops, books, beach bags, etc.

They belong to invisible or masked (everyone looks the same) fellow cruisers.

[CanHardlyWait4NextYear]

I don't get it. If the pools aren't even open and nobody is sitting in the seat before 8am why don't they just remove all of them. It's not like they can accidentally miss someone who is there swimming or anything? Better yet, make everyone return towels each night. Then not give out new one's till 9am.

[Ocean Boy]

43 minutes ago, CanHardlyWait4NextYear said:

 Better yet, make everyone return towels each night. Then not give out new one's till 9am.

My day starts well before 9 AM. I'm often on deck early listening to music and watching the sunrise. So think up some other plan, that also will never be implemented, that doesn't interfer with my cruise habits.😇

[CanHardlyWait4NextYear]

10 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said:

My day starts well before 9 AM. I'm often on deck early listening to music and watching the sunrise. So think up some other plan, that also will never be implemented, that doesn't interfer with my cruise habits.😇

😞

[docsneeze]

If people want the deck chairs so much, maybe we should let them cruise there 24/7 and allow them to share a stateroom with other similar cruisers for just 30 minutes at a time!!!  That may allow them to be more considerate of others.  But maybe not?

 

Not meant to be mean spirited but everyone should be able to enjoy their cruise.

[Ret MP]

4 minutes ago, docsneeze said:

  That may allow them to be more considerate of others. 

LOL LOL LOL

[time4u2go]

Simple solution... Similar to how we get charged for not returning towels, we should get extra OBC for turning in extra ones. 

[Mum2Mercury]

2 minutes ago, time4u2go said:

Simple solution... Similar to how we get charged for not returning towels, we should get extra OBC for turning in extra ones. 

Love it!

[ScubaCruiserC]

We chose not to copy the rude behavior of the chair hogs.  Of course that usually leaves us without a good lounger, but with our integrity intact.   The chair hogs neither know nor care about our choice.  So is life. 😜 

[jean87510]

15 hours ago, bilyclub said:

 

 

This doesn't even look like a Royal ship.  

It is an EXAMPLE of a crowded pool deck.  Surprisingly other lines have chair hogs as well.

[SRF]

On 9/25/2022 at 9:06 PM, jean87510 said:

So this is actually worth it?  Give me deck 5 or my balcony.

 

Since that is the "officers" versus passenger pool volley ball, yes it is worth it.

 

Great fun to watch and even more fun to play.

[Ret MP]

15 hours ago, ScubaCruiserC said:

We chose not to copy the rude behavior of the chair hogs.  

I'm really not trying to be "rude" with my response to your post.  But, I must say, for general consumption,  that "turning the other cheek" has never worked in history and changed nothing. 

You're not "rude" if you notify an official if someone is breaking the rules of whatever entity you are at and trying to enjoy.

 

JMHO

Edited September 27, 2022 by Ret MP

[Engineroom Snipe]

Policy. Royal Caribbean Lines International has a publicized policy. I am always amazed how many policies are created but never enforced. If one does not enforce the policy, it because toothless and useless. The policy should be removed.

 

Kind of like the "Pirates Code", more of a guideline than a code.

 

Regards, 😁

[Ret MP]

If I was a crew member, working at the Towel station, I'd think about getting to the Pool deck early and place a towel on EVERY lounger.  Just to see the mayhem.  Of course, I'd be out of a job soon after.  But, it may be worth it.

[Ret MP]

4 minutes ago, Engineroom Snipe said:

Policy. Royal Caribbean Lines International has a publicized policy. I am always amazed how many policies are created but never enforced. If one does not enforce the policy, it because toothless and useless. The policy should be removed.

 

Kind of like the "Pirates Code", more of a guideline than a code.

 

Regards, 😁

That is definitely true.  Not just in the cruise industry, either.  This is so true, "The Squeaky Wheel Gets The Grease".  

I've always said that if a policy or law isn't enforced, get rid of it.  However, I believe that laws/rules should be followed/enforced as long as they are on the books, period. The vast majority of us follow the rules/laws (well, we used to).  Why should those that don't get away with it!  

[Another_Critic]

12 minutes ago, Ret MP said:

I've always said that if a policy or law isn't enforced, get rid of it.  However, I believe that laws/rules should be followed/enforced as long as they are on the books, period. The vast majority of us follow the rules/laws (well, we used to).  Why should those that don't get away with it!  

Do you turn yourself in when you speed?  😄

[Engineroom Snipe]

31 minutes ago, Ret MP said:

That is definitely true.  Not just in the cruise industry, either.  This is so true, "The Squeaky Wheel Gets The Grease".  

I've always said that if a policy or law isn't enforced, get rid of it.  However, I believe that laws/rules should be followed/enforced as long as they are on the books, period. The vast majority of us follow the rules/laws (well, we used to).  Why should those that don't get away with it!  

You were very accurate that most of us follow rules and laws. I cannot be arrested for violating policy unless the policy has basis in law.  Royal Caribbean can move personal items from the chair according to their policy while on board. They cannot arrest anyone for it. Should they choose not to enforce, it tends to embolden those who wish not to follow it. The type of person who ignores this policy does not think beyond themselves with or without a policy. They think they are more important than their fellow passengers.  I am not going to exhaust myself in an attempt to teach them something they should have learned in kindergarten. Share the classroom toys with others, not keep them all to yourself. 

 

I would like the policy enforced in a uniform manner but I do not want to get involved in a verbal or physical confrontation. I will not attempt to enforce a policy that the cruise lines themselves do not enforce.

 

I think I have beaten this dead-horse enough. I do thank everyone for their posts. I have something to ponder during my next cruise as I walk the decks. 😉

[Ret MP]

2 hours ago, Another_Critic said:

Do you turn yourself in when you speed?  😄

Who says I speed?  Even if I did, I'd take the ticket, pay it, and not give the cop a hard time.  I'm no one special.  If I brake the law, I'll accept the consequences without making a big deal about it.   Of course, IF I BREAK THE LAW, it would be some minor offense, not a Biggy.  

[Ret MP]

1 hour ago, Engineroom Snipe said:

You were very accurate that most of us follow rules and laws. I cannot be arrested for violating policy unless the policy has basis in law.  Royal Caribbean can move personal items from the chair according to their policy while on board. They cannot arrest anyone for it. Should they choose not to enforce, it tends to embolden those who wish not to follow it. The type of person who ignores this policy does not think beyond themselves with or without a policy. They think they are more important than their fellow passengers.  I am not going to exhaust myself in an attempt to teach them something they should have learned in kindergarten. Share the classroom toys with others, not keep them all to yourself. 

 

I would like the policy enforced in a uniform manner but I do not want to get involved in a verbal or physical confrontation. I will not attempt to enforce a policy that the cruise lines themselves do not enforce.

 

I think I have beaten this dead-horse enough. I do thank everyone for their posts. I have something to ponder during my next cruise as I walk the decks. 😉

Following the cruise rules could have a basis in law.  If you break their rule(s), when you get to port, especially one in the U.S., and you are told to leave the ship and don't come back,  you refuse, or somehow you come back, you can be arrested for trespassing.  It's kinda basic. But, you are right, this horse is exceedingly dead.

Edited September 27, 2022 by Ret MP

[Engineroom Snipe]

1 hour ago, Ret MP said:

Following the cruise rules could have a basis in law.  If you break their rule(s), when you get to port, especially one in the U.S., and you are told to leave the ship and don't come back,  you refuse, or somehow you come back, you can be arrested for trespassing.  It's kinda basic. But, you are right, this horse is exceedingly dead.

"Bring out your dead. I am not dead, I feel rather good," Monty Python and the Holy Grail. The poor horse.