slidebite Posted January 26, 2023 #1 Share Posted January 26, 2023 I know motion sickness has been touched on in the past, but I thought it might be worthwhile revisiting especially since we have a good mix of posters from other countries here. I've heard that a UK drug called Stugeron is quite effective and sworn some say its almost magic its so good. Anyone here familiar with it? Comparison to, say Gravol/Dramaine? The active ingredient does seem to be different. Stugeron=Cinnarizine Gravol/Dramamine=Dimenhydrinate Is an equiv to it available in North America? If not I was thinking we *might* be able to buy some in Bermuda (2-3) days into our cruise in a couple months trip (assuming its over the counter and not a script?) But if we can get something that is the same on this side of the ocean beforehand that would be more ideal. Mrs. Slidebite can be impacted from time to time on rough seas and gravol/dramimine has mixed results. Other home type remedies like ginger and similar seem to be pretty much a placebo to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nachosdelux Posted January 26, 2023 #2 Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) I recommend Meclizine (available as Dramamine Less Drowsy Formula) in the USA. It is available OTC and can be purchased inexpensively on Amazon (or Walgreens Pharmacy) in the generic form. The pill is 25mg and you might consider starting with a half pill once per day. My wife gets drowsy with a full pill, so she uses a half. Start taking it 24 hours before you get on the ship to give it time to take effect. I am not familiar with Cinnarizine. Dimenhydrinate seems to make most people drowsy. Edited January 26, 2023 by Nachosdelux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwaj girl Posted January 26, 2023 #3 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Meclizine is available for no charge at Reception onboard. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slidebite Posted January 26, 2023 Author #4 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Oh interesting, I was not aware of that and never heard of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno123 Posted January 26, 2023 #5 Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) From the UK. Cinnarizine is often prescribed for vertigo but is available over the counter in the UK for seasickness as Stugeron and yes I use it twice a day whilst onboard. I usually have the odd bout of seasickness even with this but, on our recent Caribbean cruise, I also used sea bands which are the accu pressure bands (and it may have been psychosomatic) and despite some quite rocky seas I didn't feel sick once - result 😁😁. They do recommend no alcohol but the print on the leaflet is so small I can't read it 😜😜😜 Edited January 26, 2023 by Techno123 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guerncruising Posted January 27, 2023 #6 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Stugeron is often supplied in the life rafts used by yachtsmen and I guess must be effective but never had to use it in extremis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare forgap Posted January 27, 2023 #7 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Scopolamine patches work well cut into quarters and changed every two days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Dr. Cocktail Posted January 27, 2023 #8 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) 21 hours ago, slidebite said: I've heard that a UK drug called Stugeron is quite effective and sworn some say its almost magic its so good. Anyone here familiar with it? Comparison to, say Gravol/Dramaine? The active ingredient does seem to be different. Stugeron=Cinnarizine We tried Stugeron on our 100 passenger expedition ship to Antarctica on our moderately rough Drake Passage crossing. An acquaintance owned a very large yacht (!) and that is indeed what the crew use if required. We're also in Canada and he just gave us some. We found it was .... OK. Not nearly as sedating as Gravol and reasonably effective. Depending on any meds you're on or any medical conditions, as mentioned above, NOTHING beats a scopolamine patch. It will make your mouth dry and can affect vision but it was truly remarkable. On the worst day, out of 100 passengers only about 20 weren't "indisposed" and the patch was a lifesaver. As bottles of alcohol launched from the bar and went sailing through the air smashing against the wall, we both thought: "Fascinating. We really should be hurling our guts at this point!" Meclizine is also excellent and superior to Gravol but no longer available in Canada. Not for safety reasons - just not enough of a market. Edited January 27, 2023 by Dr. Cocktail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mj_holiday Posted January 27, 2023 #9 Share Posted January 27, 2023 21 hours ago, Kwaj girl said: Meclizine is available for no charge at Reception onboard. They will give you a couple at a time. I am a real believer in the generic Motion Sickness meds from WalMart. They contain Dimenhydrinate Tablets, 50 mg. They come in bottle of 100 tabs. I get motion sick quite easily, I even need to be careful in a movie theater with a fast drive scene etc. The WalMart tabs do not make me dizzy. I will take one a couple times the first couple of days, and unless the water gets rough I am OK for the rest of the cruise. But after many sea days I have gotten motion sick for a short period after we stepped on solid ground, so take a tab for that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 2012_Alaska_bound Posted January 27, 2023 #10 Share Posted January 27, 2023 21 hours ago, Nachosdelux said: I recommend Meclizine (available as Dramamine Less Drowsy Formula) in the USA. Also known as Bonine in USA. Most pharmacies have a generic store brand also. It is OTC. Agree with @Nachosdelux on taking daily starting 2 or 3 days before boarding (I usually start it on the day I fly out to the port city). If it makes you sleepy, take at night. If it keeps you awake (like me) take in the morning. Continue taking 2 or 3 days after disembarking (I usually start cutting back to half dose when I get home for a couple days). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhD-iva Posted January 29, 2023 #11 Share Posted January 29, 2023 On 1/27/2023 at 5:29 AM, forgap said: Scopolamine patches work well cut into quarters and changed every two days. I have never heard of cutting the patches. They are tiny, and are worn behind the ear. They work a charm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol From California Posted January 29, 2023 #12 Share Posted January 29, 2023 The patch works for me. Nothing else works. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slidebite Posted January 29, 2023 Author #13 Share Posted January 29, 2023 I'm not familiar with Scopolamine patches. Are they OTC and easy to find in the US? We have a day in Miami before we leave, can we just go to a walmart/walgreens or something and gab some? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moogwan Posted January 29, 2023 #14 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Unfortunately they are by prescription only. You also need to be careful to see how you react. It causes disorientation in some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slidebite Posted January 29, 2023 Author #15 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Thanks, I don't think we'll have a consult with a US doctor in that day so Mrs. will want to stick with something OTC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Dr. Cocktail Posted January 29, 2023 #16 Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, slidebite said: Thanks, I don't think we'll have a consult with a US doctor in that day so Mrs. will want to stick with something OTC. I'm editing as I'm writing .... I was going to say just get it at Shoppers, Rexall or Costco but it seems to have been discontinued in Canada this past year. It was for business, not quality or health reasons. Some pharmacies may still have some old stock .... Edited January 29, 2023 by Dr. Cocktail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flossie009 Posted January 29, 2023 #17 Share Posted January 29, 2023 On 1/26/2023 at 3:18 PM, slidebite said: I've heard that a UK drug called Stugeron is quite effective Yes Stugeron (Cinnarizine) is our go-to if rough seas are forecast. As with all motion sickness medications it is best taken in advance; no good waiting until you are feeling queasy. It is available over the counter in the UK and many other countries but is not available in North America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLAOK Posted January 30, 2023 #18 Share Posted January 30, 2023 I'm a meclizine fan. My brother has a prescription for it for vertigo, but it's sold OTC as Bonine, and there are store brands as well. It was offered free at reception on 2 different cruises we were on, on 2 different cruise lines, when we had high seas for the size of our ship. My husband needed to take it both times. It's the only 2 times he's ever been seasick in his life. We had boated on our own for just over 30 years, including offshore. I started my boating experience with Dramamine which I took for car sickness. As a passenger in a car, drowsiness isn't a bad side effect. But as the only other person onboard our boat, I switched to Bonine since it didn't make me drowsy. I take it on cruises any time the Captain announces bad weather is likely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no1talks Posted January 30, 2023 #19 Share Posted January 30, 2023 22 hours ago, PhD-iva said: "I have never heard of cutting the patches." Transdermal patches should only be cut under the direction of one's healthcare provider. As far as I'm aware, the FDA has approved only only one transdermal medication, Lidoderm, for cutting. These patches are designed with division in mind. Others, including Transderm Scop, are not made for cutting and dosage errors may occur. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotRoot Posted January 30, 2023 #20 Share Posted January 30, 2023 I am happy to say I have never been seasick in my life. Riding the Drake Passage was fun. I feel for those of you who can't handle the waves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slidebite Posted January 30, 2023 Author #21 Share Posted January 30, 2023 I've never been seasick myself, but 2 years ago I developed out of the blue a nasty ocular/vestibular issue which hit me like a ton of bricks. NOT fun. It gave me appreciation for those who get badly seasick or suffer from vertigo. I do not wish it on anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IotaEtaPi Posted January 30, 2023 #22 Share Posted January 30, 2023 On 1/26/2023 at 10:39 AM, Nachosdelux said: I cut Scopolamine patches in quarters all the time. My dr suggested it and it works like a charm. I never sail without them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Post it Posted January 30, 2023 #23 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) As someone who deals with serious motion sickness, I use both Dramamine (at night) and Meclizine (daytime). I can't use the transderm patch because of reactions. When the ride becomes very choppy, I also wear an electric band that is called Reliefband. You wear it on your wrist and it regularly sends electric pulses. You can change the intensity of the pulses if needed. Edited January 30, 2023 by Post it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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