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So Been very loyal to NCL for a lot of years and absolutely love the Haven. We are booked on the Joy in the Haven in  April but in December we will be trying the MSC Yacht Club on the Seascape. The main reason we are trying it is simply one thing....PRICE. I have been looking at December on the Escape in the Haven and the cheapest we can find is The Haven Spa Suite  which is fine with us and total is $7,046.00. On the MSC Seascape for a Deluxe yacht club suite ( which includes all the thermal spa access) is only $5,300. $1,750 cheaper. Haven Prices have gone absolutely crazy lately, so we will be giving MSC a chance. Anyone ever try the Yacht club and did not like it? Any reason to not try MSC?  

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1 minute ago, wolft927 said:

So Been very loyal to NCL for a lot of years and absolutely love the Haven. We are booked on the Joy in the Haven in  April but in December we will be trying the MSC Yacht Club on the Seascape. The main reason we are trying it is simply one thing....PRICE. I have been looking at December on the Escape in the Haven and the cheapest we can find is The Haven Spa Suite  which is fine with us and total is $7,046.00. On the MSC Seascape for a Deluxe yacht club suite ( which includes all the thermal spa access) is only $5,300. $1,750 cheaper. Haven Prices have gone absolutely crazy lately, so we will be giving MSC a chance. Anyone ever try the Yacht club and did not like it? Any reason to not try MSC?  

The shows on MSC are terrible.  So if you don’t mind high school type variety  shows then your ok.   
 

other than that no help on other aspects.
I don’t spend the extra money for the haven or yacht club.    
I can do 3 cruise for the price of 1 lol.    

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Just now, Cruise5life said:

The shows on MSC are terrible.  So if you don’t mind high school type variety  shows then your ok.   
 

other than that no help on other aspects.
I don’t spend the extra money for the haven or yacht club.    
I can do 3 cruise for the price of 1 lol.    

Shows are not very important to my wife and I. Fortunately, my wife and I have been very successful in life and do not mind spending on the Haven.  

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1 minute ago, wolft927 said:

Shows are not very important to my wife and I. Fortunately, my wife and I have been very successful in life and do not mind spending on the Haven.  

That’s awesome.    I enjoy the shows. 
it breaks up the every day excursions and ship activities.    
Enjoy your experience.

I’m on an MSC ship right now part of my 29 days at sea. 3 cruise line NCL MSC RC.  All for about your price of the YC.    

 

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Did the haven on Joy in February and YC on Grandiosa in October.  I think msc was better with exception of food.  There were some hits and misses with the menu that does change daily.  Haven did a nice consistent job though.   Service on MSC was far superior.  Butler was amazing.  Nice having minibar included.  Enjoyed the sun deck buffet and having pool in addition to hot tubs.  Lounge better with snacks available and live music at night.  Escorts available to take you everywhere.   I blogged about both Alpacamybagsblog dot com if you want lots of details and photos.  

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3 minutes ago, rxlowry said:

Did the haven on Joy in February and YC on Grandiosa in October.  I think msc was better with exception of food.  There were some hits and misses with the menu that does change daily.  Haven did a nice consistent job though.   Service on MSC was far superior.  Butler was amazing.  Nice having minibar included.  Enjoyed the sun deck buffet and having pool in addition to hot tubs.  Lounge better with snacks available and live music at night.  Escorts available to take you everywhere.   I blogged about both Alpacamybagsblog dot com if you want lots of details and photos.  

Thanks so much! Again, Love the Haven but the price difference is kinda crazy. Plus, Love the fact the Yacht club has a full pool in that area

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17 minutes ago, wolft927 said:

On the MSC Seascape for a Deluxe yacht club suite ( which includes all the thermal spa access) is only $5,300. $1,750 cheaper.

I keep going back and forth on Yacht Club. Eventually I'll find a decent price that will get my "I will never wear pants" husband to say yes. But, this Deluxe Yacht Club Suite...is it an interior room or balcony? The thing that gets me with Yacht Club (every single time) is the low price. Then I click the button and realize it's for a stupid interior room which I will probably not ever cruise in (see, I didn't say never). 🙂 

 

Regardless, I would love to hear your comparisons later this year! 

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2 minutes ago, cruiseny4life said:

I keep going back and forth on Yacht Club. Eventually I'll find a decent price that will get my "I will never wear pants" husband to say yes. But, this Deluxe Yacht Club Suite...is it an interior room or balcony? The thing that gets me with Yacht Club (every single time) is the low price. Then I click the button and realize it's for a stupid interior room which I will probably not ever cruise in (see, I didn't say never). 🙂 

 

Regardless, I would love to hear your comparisons later this year! 

This Price is a Balcony the interior was almost $2k cheaper

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I've sailed in the Haven about 8 times and the YC three times.

 

I really enjoy the MSC vibe - VERY different from NCL but that's what I like!

 

YC food is nowhere near the quality of the food of the Haven - we're not talking preparation, we're talking actual quality of ingredients. But yes - the menu changes nightly and the specialty restaurants are good.

 

The production shows have to be seen to be believed - they actually occasionally go into the "they're so bad that they're good" category. I can only imagine the hallucinogens used by the creative team ..

However - lots of good music around the ship and there is live music in the YC lounge from around 5:30 to midnight.

 

The dealbreaker for us on Divina and Seaside was simply the total lack of shade on the YC decks. No overhangs, no umbrellas - nothing. Like a blast furnace but hotter.

 

I think that the Meraviglia class ships have a louvered glass covering on their sundecks.

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7 minutes ago, Dr. Cocktail said:

I've sailed in the Haven about 8 times and the YC three times.

 

I really enjoy the MSC vibe - VERY different from NCL but that's what I like!

 

YC food is nowhere near the quality of the food of the Haven - we're not talking preparation, we're talking actual quality of ingredients. But yes - the menu changes nightly and the specialty restaurants are good.

 

The production shows have to be seen to be believed - they actually occasionally go into the "they're so bad that they're good" category. I can only imagine the hallucinogens used by the creative team ..

However - lots of good music around the ship and there is live music in the YC lounge from around 5:30 to midnight.

 

The dealbreaker for us on Divina and Seaside was simply the total lack of shade on the YC decks. No overhangs, no umbrellas - nothing. Like a blast furnace but hotter.

 

I think that the Meraviglia class ships have a louvered glass covering on their sundecks.


We looked at Yacht Club, but after seeing some video reviews, decided against it primarily because of the “No shade” thing. It’s the same thing that made us cancel the Prima and book another Joy Haven trip instead. Looks like very very little shade on the Prima haven deck. Disappointing.  

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36 minutes ago, wolft927 said:

So Been very loyal to NCL for a lot of years and absolutely love the Haven. We are booked on the Joy in the Haven in  April but in December we will be trying the MSC Yacht Club on the Seascape. The main reason we are trying it is simply one thing....PRICE. I have been looking at December on the Escape in the Haven and the cheapest we can find is The Haven Spa Suite  which is fine with us and total is $7,046.00. On the MSC Seascape for a Deluxe yacht club suite ( which includes all the thermal spa access) is only $5,300. $1,750 cheaper. Haven Prices have gone absolutely crazy lately, so we will be giving MSC a chance. Anyone ever try the Yacht club and did not like it? Any reason to not try MSC?  

I cannot comment on the comparisons with The Haven because we haven't tried it, and likely won't, based on what I deem to be outrageous pricing. However, we've sailed 3 times with MSC and twice in the Yacht Club. For us, it's an amazing bargain. The Yacht Club is fantastic: you feel pampered from the time you arrive at embarkation, warmly greeted by a chaperone who whisks you to your cabin, drink in hand. Everyone is so nice, and we found our butler(s) to be absolutely stellar. I always ask for a copy of a European newspaper (usually an Italian one), I love going to the grille by the pool or the Topsail lounge for cappuccinos or cocktails, and there's always food to be had. We've had outstanding meals in the restaurants, where they will custom make you just about anything you want (and being an Italian line, the fresh-made pastas are to die for). We've paid very reasonable prices, too, roughly $3,000 per person (or less) for a Deluxe Balcony (7-day cruise, FYI). Finally, my wife and I love the distinctly European vibe on MSC ships. I don't tend to go to many shows, because after visiting ports during the day and having dinner later, I'm usually too tired. However, we saw some excellent shows with opera house-quality singers (I'm a professional singer myself so that's my thing). All in all, I'd say MSC is our favorite line, but we also REALLY like NCL.

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1 minute ago, DCGuy64 said:

We've paid very reasonable prices, too, roughly $3,000 per person (or less) for a Deluxe Balcony (7-day cruise, FYI).

I know you said you haven't sailed in the Haven due to the prices...but we have never paid more than $3,000 per person to sail in the Haven (if you take out the shore excursions). In fact, our cruise in March will only be just less than $3,300 per person which includes BOGO airfare, nearly $1,000 in shore excursions, and insurance. 

 

Fare only is just under $1,900 per person, inclusive of port fees and taxes. This is for the base model Haven suite on Joy. 

 

Our previous Haven cruises, 2 were in aft-facing balcony suites with a master bedroom/living area/huge balcony, and 1 was in a Haven Penthouse suite (base level). 

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16 minutes ago, cruiseny4life said:

I know you said you haven't sailed in the Haven due to the prices...but we have never paid more than $3,000 per person to sail in the Haven (if you take out the shore excursions). In fact, our cruise in March will only be just less than $3,300 per person which includes BOGO airfare, nearly $1,000 in shore excursions, and insurance. 

 

Fare only is just under $1,900 per person, inclusive of port fees and taxes. This is for the base model Haven suite on Joy. 

 

Our previous Haven cruises, 2 were in aft-facing balcony suites with a master bedroom/living area/huge balcony, and 1 was in a Haven Penthouse suite (base level). 

Thanks for that. Every time I've looked at prices on NCL in The Haven, they have been $5,000 pp and over. Please bear in mind a few things: we don't book based on price, we book based on itinerary and time of year. Both my wife and I still work full time and our vacation time is limited, so I generally look at cruises based on when it suits our schedules, which might not be when the cheap(er) cabins are available. Also, I've priced out Haven cabins before, just for kicks, and what NCL posts as the price is exclusive of all the extras, whereas on MSC the price you pay includes everything but port fees. (Neither line includes DSC, of course) As an example, our Club Balcony suite costs about $2,000 pp for an upcoming cruise to Italy and Greece. The cheapest Haven cabin is a whopping $4,400 per person! And NCL still tacks on gratuities for the beverage package. With MSC, drinks in YC are included at no extra charge. So that $4,400 price becomes $4,765 once the extra fees are added. Now, I suppose if you looked hard enough, you might be able to find comparable prices for similar itineraries in The Haven and the Yacht Club, but that isn't how we plan our vacations. We prefer to decide where/when to go and then see whose offers are best, and MSC usually wins. Edit: just for kicks, I looked at a comparable cruise on MSC for the same time of year, same area (Mediterranean), and a Deluxe Suite in the Yacht Club was $2,756 per person. That's $1,700 per person cheaper. I'll take that! 🙂

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14 minutes ago, DCGuy64 said:

Thanks for that. Every time I've looked at prices on NCL in The Haven, they have been $5,000 pp and over. Please bear in mind a few things: we don't book based on price, we book based on itinerary and time of year. Both my wife and I still work full time and our vacation time is limited, so I generally look at cruises based on when it suits our schedules, which might not be when the cheap(er) cabins are available. Also, I've priced out Haven cabins before, just for kicks, and what NCL posts as the price is exclusive of all the extras, whereas on MSC the price you pay includes everything but port fees. (Neither line includes DSC, of course) As an example, our Club Balcony suite costs about $2,000 pp for an upcoming cruise to Italy and Greece. The cheapest Haven cabin is a whopping $4,400 per person! And NCL still tacks on gratuities for the beverage package. With MSC, drinks in YC are included at no extra charge. So that $4,400 price becomes $4,765 once the extra fees are added. Now, I suppose if you looked hard enough, you might be able to find comparable prices for similar itineraries in The Haven and the Yacht Club, but that isn't how we plan our vacations. We prefer to decide where/when to go and then see whose offers are best, and MSC usually wins. Edit: just for kicks, I looked at a comparable cruise on MSC for the same time of year, same area (Mediterranean), and a Deluxe Suite in the Yacht Club was $2,756 per person. That's $1,700 per person cheaper. I'll take that! 🙂

I'll always take the cheapest! If only I could convince someone. We both still work too, unfortunately we have a few decades before retirement will happen. Well, unless we win the jackpot! 

 

Thankfully we both have flexible jobs (outside of April - Sept. for him), and we really choose our sailings based on price, then itinerary. The Yacht Club is really appealing to me and the fresh mozzarella and pizza offerings. I'm really a simple person. 

 

And trust me, I've seen those prices for the Haven. They're not for us! I wish, but I quit my lucrative job, because I didn't feel like working 12 hour days. I'm with you on finding affordable vacations, but just wanted to be sure you knew it is possible to find a humanely priced Haven suite. 🙂

 

That trip to Italy and Greece sounds heavenly!! Enjoy all that yummy Mediterranean food!

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We did both last year.  Haven on Joy and Yacht Club on Seashore.

 

I liked YC a little better.  DH preferred Haven (he still talks about having lobster every night.)

 

I don't care for indoor pools, so if I went on Prima I'd probably say two votes for Haven.  

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1 hour ago, rxlowry said:

Did the haven on Joy in February and YC on Grandiosa in October.  I think msc was better with exception of food.  There were some hits and misses with the menu that does change daily.  Haven did a nice consistent job though.   Service on MSC was far superior.  Butler was amazing.  Nice having minibar included.  Enjoyed the sun deck buffet and having pool in addition to hot tubs.  Lounge better with snacks available and live music at night.  Escorts available to take you everywhere.   I blogged about both Alpacamybagsblog dot com if you want lots of details and photos.  


What are you thoughts on the ship clientele on MSC?  I've always thought to try in general, and even do Yacht club. However, I've heard such mixed things about Food + rude passengers. Thought's?

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We’ve sailed more than 10 times in the Haven and six times in the YC. Service is generally better in the YC (Butler service is hit and miss on both). The sun/pool deck on the YC has a bar and buffet restaurant (open breakfast and lunch) making it far superior to the Haven. The included YC drink package offers more top shelf liquors. The Haven bartenders are mixologists and much better than their counterparts in the YC. We actually prefer the smaller portion sizes in the YC restaurant (you still have the option of ordering as much as you want). The Top Sail Lounge in the YC has nightly entertainment with pretty consistent waiter service as opposed to the Horizon Lounge in the Haven. NCL’s loyalty program is better than MSC’s. NCL entertainment is better.  The Haven has more cabin choices. YC includes Spa access. If you’re doing a Caribbean cruise, the one major inclusion that sets the YC apart from the Haven is MSC’s private island Ocean Cay, where cruisers in the YC have their own private restaurant and beach area. The price difference between the two experiences was quite substantial a few years back but the YC prices are increasing to the point that some sailings are priced not that far apart. We are sailing in the Haven in two weeks on the Joy and have also booked a B2B on the Seascape in November. We enjoy both experiences but if I had to choose one I’d pick the YC because it’s still better value.

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So....here's my 2 cents.

DH always said "the day he'd need a butler would be the day he couldn't do things for himself".

Life happened and he's recovering (very well I may add) from major surgury....but balance has been an issue.

I didn't want him to stand on long lines or carry his plate in the buffet....so I checked the YCI on Meraviglia.  It was a few dollars less for 8 days than a 7 day "sail away balcony guarantee" on NCL Getaway for the same week.

To me, worth the price if only to avoid "standing, walking, waiting issues".  The bar, the spa, the dining, the butler.....all bonuses.

I think that Ocean Cay as a YC passenger will far surpasses NCL's GSC, where you have to tendar even if you're in the Haven.

I've checked Haven prices....and although I can afford it....it just isn't "cost effective".

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I would love to try an MSC cruise and their YC, as The Haven is just so friggin' expensive lately (7 Day Alaska in April 2024 is still hovering around $7k for a Forward Suite)

 

But, alas, since we poor schmucks on the US West Coast don't have any MSC boats to go on, we will just have to wait.  When they finally get to doing Alaska (out only logical option, as we don't like flying and must stick with wifey's Teacher schedule), we will be some of the first to give it a shot.

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21 minutes ago, gmbhardy said:

We’ve sailed more than 10 times in the Haven and six times in the YC. Service is generally better in the YC (Butler service is hit and miss on both). The sun/pool deck on the YC has a bar and buffet restaurant (open breakfast and lunch) making it far superior to the Haven. The included YC drink package offers more top shelf liquors. The Haven bartenders are mixologists and much better than their counterparts in the YC. We actually prefer the smaller portion sizes in the YC restaurant (you still have the option of ordering as much as you want). The Top Sail Lounge in the YC has nightly entertainment with pretty consistent waiter service as opposed to the Horizon Lounge in the Haven. NCL’s loyalty program is better than MSC’s. NCL entertainment is better.  The Haven has more cabin choices. YC includes Spa access. If you’re doing a Caribbean cruise, the one major inclusion that sets the YC apart from the Haven is MSC’s private island Ocean Cay, where cruisers in the YC have their own private restaurant and beach area. The price difference between the two experiences was quite substantial a few years back but the YC prices are increasing to the point that some sailings are priced not that far apart. We are sailing in the Haven in two weeks on the Joy and have also booked a B2B on the Seascape in November. We enjoy both experiences but if I had to choose one I’d pick the YC because it’s still better value.


How do you like MSC in General.  I'm platinum on NCL, pretty close to next status.  I have never been on MSC before, but I am gold, because of a Status match years ago.  Not sure if that means much.  I've only done NCL Haven 1 time, this year, and we paid to upgrade.  Personally, I'd rather go on 3 balcony cruises than do 1 haven (give or take..).  However, in General, MSC has always been tempting to try.  I have not heard good things above food and just the people on the ship, being a little rude in general.  Thought's?  Thank you!

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I've done both Haven and Yacht Club on several occasions. Whether NCL or MSC, the ship choice can make a big difference. 

 

There are some things that NCL Haven does better. 

There are some things that MSC Yacht Club does better. 

Neither is perfect. 

 

Generally, MSC butlers have been better but I've never had a bad butler on either line. I'd give the NCL concierges a better grade than the MSC concierges. Haven concierges seem to have a bit more influence over other parts of the ship in order to get things done for the Haven guests vs. what Yacht Club concierges can get done. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Dr. Cocktail said:

The dealbreaker for us on Divina and Seaside was simply the total lack of shade on the YC decks. No overhangs, no umbrellas - nothing. Like a blast furnace but hotter.

 

I think that the Meraviglia class ships have a louvered glass covering on their sundecks.

 

Again, ship choice makes a difference. I haven't sailed Divina but I have sailed Seaside, Seashore and Meraviglia. There is shade on all three (Seaside eventually learned to put loungers in the shaded area) but we also had a cabana/pergola every time. The buffet/food options and bar service right on the sundeck give MSC the advantage over NCL. The option to cover the pool in bad weather on most BA/BA Plus Haven ships is an advantage for NCL. Some people like the "indoor" feel of the Haven pool (except for Getaway) and some people like the view of the ocean from the Yacht Club pool. Yacht Club pools tend to be deeper (more than 6ft) but that also depends on the ship. 

 

Included Spa access, wi-fi,  and included drink package is a Yacht Club advantage but with NCL promos and options, Haven guests can basically get the same things. 

 

Stateroom options are more abundant on NCL. It is very rare to have 2 bathrooms even with MSC's largest suites. A DOS or Garden Villa on NCL is larger/more impressive than an Owner's Suite or Royal Suite on MSC but NCL will cost much more. A whirlpool on the balcony (looking at you, Prima 😠) is less expensive with MSC Yacht Club options. 

 

Pricing is always part luck, part skill. When prices go up and down like a roller coaster, some people will hop on when the price is low. Some will be shocked when the price is high. I'm one of the people who gets low prices more often than not. One of the Royal Suites that I booked on MSC was only $200 more than what some people paid for a Deluxe Suite on the same cruise. One Haven aft-facing suite that I had was almost $4,000 less than what some other people paid for the same class of suite and their balcony was smaller than mine. These weren't last minute deals. These were cruises that were booked far in advance before prices increased. 

 

I enjoy both Haven and Yacht Club and I prefer that they aren't the same. 

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2 minutes ago, MsTabbyKats said:

So....here's my 2 cents.

DH always said "the day he'd need a butler would be the day he couldn't do things for himself".

Life happened and he's recovering (very well I may add) from major surgury....but balance has been an issue.

I didn't want him to stand on long lines or carry his plate in the buffet....so I checked the YCI on Meraviglia.  It was a few dollars less for 8 days than a 7 day "sail away balcony guarantee" on NCL Getaway for the same week.

To me, worth the price if only to avoid "standing, walking, waiting issues".  The bar, the spa, the dining, the butler.....all bonuses.

I think that Ocean Cay as a YC passenger will far surpasses NCL's GSC, where you have to tendar even if you're in the Haven.

I've checked Haven prices....and although I can afford it....it just isn't "cost effective".

I feel the same as you, we could book Haven, but rather not.  We upgrade and paid to do Haven for first time this year it was great.  I love all the upgraded amenities, but honestly we never really "used" our butler.   I couldn't tell from your comment if you have actually been on MSC? Wasn't sure how you compared it overall to Norwegian. 

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15 minutes ago, Two Wheels Only said:

I've done both Haven and Yacht Club on several occasions. Whether NCL or MSC, the ship choice can make a big difference. 

 

There are some things that NCL Haven does better. 

There are some things that MSC Yacht Club does better. 

Neither is perfect. 

 

Generally, MSC butlers have been better but I've never had a bad butler on either line. I'd give the NCL concierges a better grade than the MSC concierges. Haven concierges seem to have a bit more influence over other parts of the ship in order to get things done for the Haven guests vs. what Yacht Club concierges can get done. 

 

 

 

Again, ship choice makes a difference. I haven't sailed Divina but I have sailed Seaside, Seashore and Meraviglia. There is shade on all three (Seaside eventually learned to put loungers in the shaded area) but we also had a cabana/pergola every time. The buffet/food options and bar service right on the sundeck give MSC the advantage over NCL. The option to cover the pool in bad weather on most BA/BA Plus Haven ships is an advantage for NCL. Some people like the "indoor" feel of the Haven pool (except for Getaway) and some people like the view of the ocean from the Yacht Club pool. Yacht Club pools tend to be deeper (more than 6ft) but that also depends on the ship. 

 

Included Spa access, wi-fi,  and included drink package is a Yacht Club advantage but with NCL promos and options, Haven guests can basically get the same things. 

 

Stateroom options are more abundant on NCL. It is very rare to have 2 bathrooms even with MSC's largest suites. A DOS or Garden Villa on NCL is larger/more impressive than an Owner's Suite or Royal Suite on MSC but NCL will cost much more. A whirlpool on the balcony (looking at you, Prima 😠) is less expensive with MSC Yacht Club options. 

 

Pricing is always part luck, part skill. When prices go up and down like a roller coaster, some people will hop on when the price is low. Some will be shocked when the price is high. I'm one of the people who gets low prices more often than not. One of the Royal Suites that I booked on MSC was only $200 more than what some people paid for a Deluxe Suite on the same cruise. One Haven aft-facing suite that I had was almost $4,000 less than what some other people paid for the same class of suite and their balcony was smaller than mine. These weren't last minute deals. These were cruises that were booked far in advance before prices increased. 

 

I enjoy both Haven and Yacht Club and I prefer that they aren't the same. 

Another question for you.  You are just like me, I am always looking and hunting for deals.  Do you just check them manually yourself.  Or do you use any website? cr.. fish..  I've always thought about even making some scripts to check price and even email myself for drops.

Edit - Didn't realize cru fish doesnt exit anymore but i found another one.

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5 minutes ago, NyYankees2k3 said:

I feel the same as you, we could book Haven, but rather not.  We upgrade and paid to do Haven for first time this year it was great.  I love all the upgraded amenities, but honestly we never really "used" our butler.   I couldn't tell from your comment if you have actually been on MSC? Wasn't sure how you compared it overall to Norwegian. 

I've been on MSC twice....with the general population and I loved it.  We're doing YC this time because of what I said about my husband.  But, when I saw it was cheaper to do YC than NCL "balcony guarantee"...booking MSC was a "no brainer".

 

I'm platinum on NCL....been in every kind of cabin they have, except Haven.  And the prices have gone wild!

 

We are really low key people...."buffet people"....because as a general rule, I've never cared for MDR food.  I even skip the specialty restaurants we're entitle to....because I like the NCL buffet so much.

 

My last cruise on MSC was a 7 day pizza party!  I did not like the buffet or the MDR.  But you can't beat the pizza (I'm a pizza snob).  I'm hoping to like YC food...but if not, there's pizza delivery.

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8 minutes ago, NyYankees2k3 said:

Another question for you.  You are just like me, I am always looking and hunting for deals.  Do you just check them manually yourself.  Or do you use any website? cr.. fish..  I've always thought about even making some scripts to check price and even email myself for drops.

Edit - Didn't realize cru fish doesnt exit anymore but i found another one.

I use their website and that plum one.  I actually booked this thru a TA....and got a 14% discount from the MSC website price. (When I compared prices it was without any discounts or certificates).

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