LouChamp Posted August 17, 2023 #1 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Aloha. Glad the reports from those onboard are great! If anyone can possibly post a copy of the menu I would be most appreciative. Thank you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Keith1010 Posted August 17, 2023 #2 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Here it is. I posted it on my daily updates. Keith 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pickleball dRabbit Posted August 17, 2023 #3 Share Posted August 17, 2023 No no affogato? :sadface: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimundsR Posted August 17, 2023 #4 Share Posted August 17, 2023 OH, NO . . . . I always dream about returning to Crystal to have one (or more). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryber Posted August 17, 2023 #5 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Affogoto is just vanilla gelato and espresso. I can't imagine you will have a problem ordering it at some point on the cruise, even if not on the menu. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimundsR Posted August 18, 2023 #6 Share Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) OH, NO . . . . I always dream about returning to Crystal to have one (or more). Sorry, hit the wrong button. Edited August 18, 2023 by dimundsR Duplicate post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimundsR Posted August 18, 2023 #7 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Yes, but part of the treat was the service of it. A little foggy here, but a special little pitcher or other was used. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenzSailing Posted August 18, 2023 #8 Share Posted August 18, 2023 It's interesting: Umi Uma was always the premier, even glam, alternative restaurant on Crystal(at least in terms of mentions on this board.) Yet, on other threads, more than a few folks are distressed about the revamped menu in the restaurant-formerly-known-as Prego. I looked at the menu, it's not boundary pushing. You'd think they were serving offal or something(they're not.) Can't wait to try it, if they haven't watered down the menu with bread bowl soup and chicken parm by the time we board. Don't get me wrong, I love a good chicken parm. It's just nice to see a kitchen stretching a bit, especially on a cruise ship. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Txcotn Posted August 18, 2023 #9 Share Posted August 18, 2023 I think the menu looks interesting. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouChamp Posted August 18, 2023 Author #10 Share Posted August 18, 2023 14 hours ago, Keith1010 said: Here it is. I posted it on my daily updates. Keith Aloha. Thank you for your post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Keith1010 Posted August 18, 2023 #11 Share Posted August 18, 2023 4 hours ago, KenzSailing said: It's interesting: Umi Uma was always the premier, even glam, alternative restaurant on Crystal(at least in terms of mentions on this board.) Yet, on other threads, more than a few folks are distressed about the revamped menu in the restaurant-formerly-known-as Prego. I looked at the menu, it's not boundary pushing. You'd think they were serving offal or something(they're not.) Can't wait to try it, if they haven't watered down the menu with bread bowl soup and chicken parm by the time we board. Don't get me wrong, I love a good chicken parm. It's just nice to see a kitchen stretching a bit, especially on a cruise ship. Remember, people don't like change. Prego served Italian comfort food. And some wanted to go there several times. To me that is not special. Special to me is the occasional visit and having something you do not ordinarily have. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChatKat in Ca. Posted August 18, 2023 #12 Share Posted August 18, 2023 11 hours ago, Keith1010 said: Remember, people don't like change. Prego served Italian comfort food. And some wanted to go there several times. To me that is not special. Special to me is the occasional visit and having something you do not ordinarily have. For those of us from the Los Angeles area, Prego was based on the restaurant Valentino with the menu designed by Piero Selveggio. His food was legendary and his place at the top of the local Itallian food chain. I am open to new experiences, but, Valentino will be missed by us Angelenos. We loved Prego. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latsyrc Posted August 20, 2023 #13 Share Posted August 20, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 12:20 PM, ChatKat in Ca. said: For those of us from the Los Angeles area, Prego was based on the restaurant Valentino with the menu designed by Piero Selveggio. His food was legendary and his place at the top of the local Itallian food chain. I am open to new experiences, but, Valentino will be missed by us Angelenos. We loved Prego. Coming up on 28 years cruising Crystal and will cross the magic 50 leg line and free specialty restaurants in December. I love Nobu like everyone else but carpaccio at Prego was really special. I wont knock this new restaurant until I try it but I sense a whiff of snobbery that Prego somehow wasn't authentic, sad. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ijkh Posted August 20, 2023 #14 Share Posted August 20, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 9:20 AM, ChatKat in Ca. said: For those of us from the Los Angeles area, Prego was based on the restaurant Valentino with the menu designed by Piero Selveggio. His food was legendary and his place at the top of the local Itallian food chain. I am open to new experiences, but, Valentino will be missed by us Angelenos. We loved Prego. Ironically we went to Valentino's for a special occasion with family. We had an absolutely awful meal. So there you go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Stickman1990 Posted August 21, 2023 #15 Share Posted August 21, 2023 On 8/19/2023 at 2:20 AM, ChatKat in Ca. said: For those of us from the Los Angeles area, Prego was based on the restaurant Valentino with the menu designed by Piero Selveggio. His food was legendary and his place at the top of the local Itallian food chain. I am open to new experiences, but, Valentino will be missed by us Angelenos. We loved Prego. We enjoy a meal at Valentinos back in 2016 before it closed and met Piero who spoke fondly of Crystal Frankly the way some have “turned” on Prego now with open criticism after waxing lyrical about how great it was for many many years is distasteful to me We enjoyed it and we may well enjoy the new restaurant once we try it - liking both is not forbidden 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtA Posted August 21, 2023 #16 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Stickman1990 said: We enjoyed it and we may well enjoy the new restaurant once we try it - liking both is not forbidden We absolutely enjoyed both, but don't go thinking New Prego is Old Prego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Stickman1990 Posted August 21, 2023 #17 Share Posted August 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, AtA said: We absolutely enjoyed both, but don't go thinking New Prego is Old Prego. Yes I don’t think anyone thinks it’s Prego version 2 - it’s OdO - that’s been clear from the get go although there was confusion about the return of the two favourites the Carpaccio (has it been sighted anywhere yet) and the Mushroom soup sans Bread Bowl which seems to be a non starter combo and now served in Waterside from time to time I just wish someone would post a photo of the menu I could read easily - anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Keith1010 Posted August 21, 2023 #18 Share Posted August 21, 2023 My observation. Many people liked Prego. With that said I remember some on this board saying they didn't care for it. Is that a surprise? No. Everyone has their opinion. I sit back and say this. There was a time when some on this board said everything would change or most things would change and no longer be Crystal. So I put this into perspective. This is one of very few changes. If you like it great. If you don't certainly provide your feedback. Nothing is ever cast in stone forever. And as to the new restaurant, my recommendation is to give it a chance. Full disclosure. I tried Prego on Harmony 2002, Symphony 2023 and 2024 and Serenity on 2025 and didn't care for it. I thought it was OK. It was in 2007 that after a few visits I started to enjoy it. I figured out what worked for me. Now the irony is one of those things that worked for me changed. There used to be two special items which eventually they renamed to two additional items; one often a fish and the other pasta. The fist was often one that was picked up locally. Ioved it. When this changed to one item it was often a pasta. But I found items which worked for me which might not be the ones that others selected. Switching gears: When we sailed Crystal there was the recommended fee per person. Then all of a sudden the fee was removed when inclusive rolled out and I would see or hear about more people there than before and we are talking about something like $8.00 per person recommended. I do view the specialty restaurants as special. If you go there often it's not special IMHO. While dining with friends last night, I mentioned that I am happy on a 12 day cruise to go to Umi Uma once, Osteria d'Ovidio once, Tastes once and go to one of them a second time and have the other meals from Waterside. On this cruise where we've made the exception is when we were invited by others from Crystal to join them. At to the menu here it is. The lighting on the ship is challenging to get a picture perfect photo. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Vin Posted August 21, 2023 #19 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) On 8/18/2023 at 9:20 AM, ChatKat in Ca. said: For those of us from the Los Angeles area, Prego was based on the restaurant Valentino with the menu designed by Piero Selveggio. His food was legendary and his place at the top of the local Itallian food chain. I am open to new experiences, but, Valentino will be missed by us Angelenos. We loved Prego. I just happened to be in the forum. (I'm in the market for a new BCLF ... Best Cruise Line Forever ... and thought that maybe Crystal is it.) Anyway, I ran across this link the other day and thought you, and others from the area, might enjoy it. http://martinostimemachine.blogspot.com/2017/09/when-this-photo-of-me-was-taken-in-our.html I hope you and family are safe from that naughty girl, Hilary! 😀 Edited August 21, 2023 by Big Vin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryber Posted August 21, 2023 #20 Share Posted August 21, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 9:20 AM, ChatKat in Ca. said: For those of us from the Los Angeles area, Prego was based on the restaurant Valentino with the menu designed by Piero Selveggio. His food was legendary and his place at the top of the local Itallian food chain. I am open to new experiences, but, Valentino will be missed by us Angelenos. We loved Prego. Selveggio was a great restauranteur, but not really a chef. Valentino went through many changes over the years, and it was only great when it had a great chef. At times, it was quite mediocre for the food. By the end, it was really only worth going there for the wine list, which was one of the best (if not the best) in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChatKat in Ca. Posted August 21, 2023 #21 Share Posted August 21, 2023 14 minutes ago, Big Vin said: I just happened to be in the forum. (I'm in the market for a new BCLF ... Best Cruise Line Forever ... and thought that maybe Crystal is it.) Anyway, I ran across this link the other day and thought you, and others from the area, might enjoy it. http://martinostimemachine.blogspot.com/2017/09/when-this-photo-of-me-was-taken-in-our.html I hope you and family are safe from that naughty girl, Hilary! 😀 Hi Allison! Hilary didn't damage my spirits or the house. I'm already your long time VLA follower. If you want to talk luxury cruising we can have a bite. We've met in person in PS at a pet rescue event. So many good restaurants in PS and Nobu at The Tennis Gardens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWIVince Posted August 21, 2023 #22 Share Posted August 21, 2023 21 hours ago, Stickman1990 said: We enjoy a meal at Valentinos back in 2016 before it closed and met Piero who spoke fondly of Crystal Frankly the way some have “turned” on Prego now with open criticism after waxing lyrical about how great it was for many many years is distasteful to me We enjoyed it and we may well enjoy the new restaurant once we try it - liking both is not forbidden I fall into that bucket…. I’ve said plenty of great things about Prego through the years, but I’m also ready for change. If for no other reason, it’s not the past anymore. I can also request almost any Prego dish in Waterside if I wish, so from where I sit nothing is really lost, and something exciting is gained. I understand it’s not going to be everyone’s cup of tea, but that’s the nature of change even for those of us that embrace it. In my defense though, there are a few things I’ve been consistently critical about with Prego over the years, including Symphony’s original Prego decor (why did the same decor work in Prego as Excalibur Las Vegas at the time?) and Serenity’s decor most of the years (floating Olive Garden). Symphony Prego’s Kirk Nix makeover is one of my favorite Crystal decor iterations in the company’s history, but putting my money where my mouth is re: change, that decor is now over a decade old and a change is certainly appropriate. Vince 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crickette Posted August 21, 2023 #23 Share Posted August 21, 2023 20 minutes ago, BWIVince said: I fall into that bucket…. I’ve said plenty of great things about Prego through the years, but I’m also ready for change. If for no other reason, it’s not the past anymore. I can also request almost any Prego dish in Waterside if I wish, so from where I sit nothing is really lost, and something exciting is gained. I understand it’s not going to be everyone’s cup of tea, but that’s the nature of change even for those of us that embrace it. In my defense though, there are a few things I’ve been consistently critical about with Prego over the years, including Symphony’s original Prego decor (why did the same decor work in Prego as Excalibur Las Vegas at the time?) and Serenity’s decor most of the years (floating Olive Garden). Symphony Prego’s Kirk Nix makeover is one of my favorite Crystal decor iterations in the company’s history, but putting my money where my mouth is re: change, that decor is now over a decade old and a change is certainly appropriate. Vince You've been missed. Glad you are back. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Roland4 Posted August 22, 2023 #24 Share Posted August 22, 2023 3 hours ago, BWIVince said: I fall into that bucket…. I’ve said plenty of great things about Prego through the years, but I’m also ready for change. If for no other reason, it’s not the past anymore. I can also request almost any Prego dish in Waterside if I wish, so from where I sit nothing is really lost, and something exciting is gained. I understand it’s not going to be everyone’s cup of tea, but that’s the nature of change even for those of us that embrace it. In my defense though, there are a few things I’ve been consistently critical about with Prego over the years, including Symphony’s original Prego decor (why did the same decor work in Prego as Excalibur Las Vegas at the time?) and Serenity’s decor most of the years (floating Olive Garden). Symphony Prego’s Kirk Nix makeover is one of my favorite Crystal decor iterations in the company’s history, but putting my money where my mouth is re: change, that decor is now over a decade old and a change is certainly appropriate. Vince Welcome back, Vince. We have missed you!!! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenzSailing Posted August 22, 2023 #25 Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Roland4 said: Welcome back, Vince. We have missed you!!! Lazarus! The Voice of Reason is back! This is welcome news. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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