jonboy9756 Posted July 1 #1 Share Posted July 1 Just saw this on Carnival website. ALL TAXES AND FEES NOW INCLUDED IN PRICES! ALL TAXES AND FEES NOW INCLUDED IN PRICES! 2 As of June 29, the prices displayed for Carnival cruises are now inclusive of taxes and fees. The total price has not changed due to this update, and by showing the total price while shopping you can now see the total cost before completing your booking. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare shof515 Posted July 1 #2 Share Posted July 1 i checked a couple of cruises i have coming up later this year and next year, it seems like pricing did go up. Cruise fare is the same but the Required Cruise Fees & Expenses and Government Taxes & Fees is various amounts and when i add it up, it is more then what i paid on on the old Taxes, Fees & Port Expenses label in my booking confirmation. for example, my booking confirmation says Taxes, Fees & Port Expenses is 250 dollars. on the booking page it shows Required Cruise Fees & Expenses as 200 dollars and the taxes and fees as 100 dollars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayneAS Posted July 1 #3 Share Posted July 1 I'm glad you reminded me. I forgot about it. This was supposed to take effect July 1st but they pushed it a day early. I was wondering why the prices I was seeing looked crazy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane0226 Posted July 1 #4 Share Posted July 1 smoke and mirrors again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAKingsFan Posted July 1 #5 Share Posted July 1 23 minutes ago, hurricane0226 said: smoke and mirrors again I believe this is in response to a new law. I don't think it is an attempt to be intentionally misleading 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n6uqqq Posted July 1 #6 Share Posted July 1 This is a big yawner. Everything basically still the same except now the government fees/taxes are differentiated from the actual port fees. Carnival already did show the same total cost before booking. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bafinegan Posted July 1 #7 Share Posted July 1 It's not like Carnival had a choice. They just made it to show the same no matter what state you booked from. Easier bookkeeping. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted July 1 #8 Share Posted July 1 6 hours ago, LAKingsFan said: I believe this is in response to a new law. I don't think it is an attempt to be intentionally misleading you would be correct, but it is interesting to see how people react. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammee Posted July 1 #9 Share Posted July 1 Taxes/Port fees are shown on the breakdown section if you do a mock, at least on the casino offers. They seemed to have gone up alittle bit, but other than that, looked the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazil65 Posted July 1 #10 Share Posted July 1 Nothing really changed except the optics and many here have mentioned many times over they wish CCL would just show the all in price up front. So now its done, move on to the next issue. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 1025cruise Posted July 1 #11 Share Posted July 1 The difference is before they could advertise a cruise for 2000 dollars and then at the end of the reservation, add 500 for taxes and fees that are not optional. Now, they advertise the fare as 2500. It’s a new California law that went into effect. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mz-s Posted July 1 #12 Share Posted July 1 Next they should include grats in the price. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyxie Posted July 1 #13 Share Posted July 1 11 hours ago, shof515 said: i checked a couple of cruises i have coming up later this year and next year, it seems like pricing did go up. Cruise fare is the same but the Required Cruise Fees & Expenses and Government Taxes & Fees is various amounts and when i add it up, it is more then what i paid on on the old Taxes, Fees & Port Expenses label in my booking confirmation. for example, my booking confirmation says Taxes, Fees & Port Expenses is 250 dollars. on the booking page it shows Required Cruise Fees & Expenses as 200 dollars and the taxes and fees as 100 dollars Port fees can fluctuate and are not always the same depending on when you book. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrate13 Posted July 1 #14 Share Posted July 1 26 minutes ago, Drazil65 said: Nothing really changed except the optics and many here have mentioned many times over they wish CCL would just show the all in price up front. So now its done, move on to the next issue. Exactly, now people get what they asked for and some will still gripe. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeresaJ Posted July 1 #15 Share Posted July 1 I noticed this yesterday too on a couple of cruises that I have been watching. When I clicked in to book and got to the final page, the total price is still the same as what I had been seeing prior to this change. The initial price you see on the first page is higher now because it includes those taxes and fees so at first it seems as if the cruise is more but actually it is not. I am glad to hear that is what is going on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted July 1 #16 Share Posted July 1 If and when you booked, it all evens out, it just a state determining how they market. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayakbouy Posted July 1 #17 Share Posted July 1 I just changed cabins from a two person to a single. The cost increase in fees was $14.00 a day. This was for a 4 day cruise. Below is documents from after the change (4 day cruise) and before the change (6 day cruise). No net change for 2 persons in a cabin. $14 a day change for single. Below is another cruise. Note government taxes and fees do not increase for the single person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fart Cruisers Posted July 1 #18 Share Posted July 1 (edited) The old invoice listed Taxes, Fees & Port Expenses as one line item. Now they are broken into two separate line items (Required Cruise Fees and Expenses) and (Government Taxes and Fees). While it probably doesn't make any difference, I wonder if it will lead to higher cancellation costs. Previously, with cancellations or no shows, ALL "Taxes, Fees & Port Expenses" were refunded. Now the description of 'Required Cruise Fees and Expenses' says "which are subject to penalty", so should I assume that "penalty" will no linger be refundable? Old Invoices: CRUISE CHARGES Cruise Rate Taxes, Fees & Port Expenses Total Cruise Charges New Listings: Required Cruise Fees and Expenses includes all mandatory and third-party fees and expenses associated with the Cruise Fare for services on board and in port. (which are subject to penalty). Government Taxes and Fees includes taxes and government-imposed fees for the performance of the cruise and related purchases, such as port head taxes, value-added taxes, air and hotel taxes, and similar fees and taxes assessed on the transaction and associated with the Cruise Fare. Edited July 1 by Old Fart Cruisers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n6uqqq Posted July 1 #19 Share Posted July 1 2 minutes ago, Old Fart Cruisers said: The old invoice listed Taxes, Fees & Port Expenses as one line item. Now they are broken into two separate line items (Required Cruise Fees and Expenses) and (Government Taxes and Fees). While it probably doesn't make any difference, I wonder if it will lead to higher cancellation costs. Previously, with cancellations or no shows, "ALL Taxes, Fees & Port Expenses" were refunded. Now the description of 'Required Cruise Fees and Expenses' says "which are subject to penalty", so should I assume that "penalty" will no linger be refundable? Old Invoices: CRUISE CHARGES Cruise Rate Taxes, Fees & Port Expenses Total Cruise Charges New Listings: Required Cruise Fees and Expenses includes all mandatory and third-party fees and expenses associated with the Cruise Fare for services on board and in port. (which are subject to penalty). Government Taxes and Fees includes taxes and government-imposed fees for the performance of the cruise and related purchases, such as port head taxes, value-added taxes, air and hotel taxes, and similar fees and taxes assessed on the transaction and associated with the Cruise Fare. I suspect you are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n6uqqq Posted July 1 #20 Share Posted July 1 It looks like there were some changes to the cruise ticket contract as a result of this also. I can no longer find reference to the fuel surcharge or the right to increase port fee/taxes in the cruise ticket contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger0613 Posted July 1 #21 Share Posted July 1 On June 30th, taxes and fees were not broken out. I was only given one figure. It didn't even break it down per person. I was only able to figure out the taxes and fees by switching to just one person and subtracting from the two person total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted July 1 #22 Share Posted July 1 4 hours ago, Kayakbouy said: I just changed cabins from a two person to a single. The cost increase in fees was $14.00 a day. This was for a 4 day cruise. Below is documents from after the change (4 day cruise) and before the change (6 day cruise). No net change for 2 persons in a cabin. $14 a day change for single. Below is another cruise. Note government taxes and fees do not increase for the single person Call California. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fart Cruisers Posted July 3 #23 Share Posted July 3 I noticed that now they are also including service charges and delivery in the advertised prices on Cheers! and other beverage packages. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephPS79 Posted July 3 #24 Share Posted July 3 On 7/1/2024 at 4:13 PM, Tiger0613 said: On June 30th, taxes and fees were not broken out. I was only given one figure. It didn't even break it down per person. I was only able to figure out the taxes and fees by switching to just one person and subtracting from the two person total. Maybe you beat the system update. They are currently itemized on the invoice detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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