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We are booked on Solstice in 2009

 

Recently on another thread ('tell me it isn't so") it was said that the Daily blubs sent on ship each day to staterooms state that one should/is required to observe the Dress Code in effect for that evening ( in the main dining room )THROUGHOUT the entire ship except for casual dining in say the Oceanview Cafe etc--ie that would imply that all a casual dresser could do that evening is go to casual dining and then have to go back to one'e room if enforced.

 

Today I called Celebrity planning dep't and brought this up and the woman said "that's not correct-if on formal night in the main dining room you choose not to go the MDR you can dress casual and go anywhere else on the ship without question--bars, casino, nightly show etc etc"

 

Frankly, it does not make logical sense to me that on a Formal Night (dark suit and tie or tux) all anyone could do who did not have such outfits would be to go to casual dining on say the Lido deck etc and then have to go back to the room. So, I'm inclined to think that the woman in the planning dept was right-you can go anywhere else on the ship except the MDR on a Formal night.

 

Can experienced Celebrity guests please comment

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You will see it printed in the daily as stated. I have my dalies

at home from GALAXY last month.

I can quote from them if you like.

 

As to the question.....are the dress codes outside the dining

room enforced?....actually the question could be are they enforced

inside too? Depends on the ship and which Maitr'd is working the

door.

So, the words are written in print, but of course it is the people who

follow them or not follow them as the case may be.

On formal nights I personally stay dressed in the clothing I wear to dinner.

I enjoy dressing up and see no reason to change:)

 

Who's next?

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Touchy subject.. :D

 

I have read on these boards where someone was turned away at the doors of the celebrity theater for being under dressed...

 

For example, the Captains cocktail reception on formal night. Its a formal event with a formal atmosphere. Everywhere else I would feel ok, but even for casual dining I wear "country club casual" Even casual dining has a dress code I believe.

 

On our last cruise on the Connie, we had late dining. I had to run to guest relations to get an Internet charge taken off my account. I got down the hall to the elevator where early dining people were all decked out and ready for the evening. (formal night) I turned around and went straight back to the cabin. :o Told hubby I was NO way going to the Lobby dressed in shorts and flip flops at that particular time.:eek: . Everyone looked so nice.

 

I say, Just use good judgment. :)

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Touchy subject.. :D

 

I have read on these boards where someone was turned away at the doors of the celebrity theater for being under dressed...

 

For example, the Captains cocktail reception on formal night. Its a formal event with a formal atmosphere. Everywhere else I would feel ok, but even for casual dining I wear "country club casual" Even casual dining has a dress code I believe.

 

On our last cruise on the Connie, we had late dining. I had to run to guest relations to get an Internet charge taken off my account. I got down the hall to the elevator where early dining people were all decked out and ready for the evening. (formal night) I turned around and went straight back to the cabin. :o Told hubby I was NO way going to the Lobby dressed in shorts and flip flops at that particular time.:eek: . Everyone looked so nice.

 

I say, Just use good judgment. :)

 

Thanks for sharing that story. I know what you mean.

Its different if you are out by the pool or on the Aft Deck (though

I have seen early diners out there all dressed up before heading for

dinner out there too) but it has a much more casual atmosphere

outside;).

I will still be in shorts in the early evening since I eat late

and the early diners look so good all dressed to the 9s......

And I always try to compliment them too:) and tell them

I will be dressing just like that only a bit later.....

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We are booked on Solstice in 2009

 

Recently on another thread ('tell me it isn't so") it was said that the Daily blubs sent on ship each day to staterooms state that one should/is required to observe the Dress Code in effect for that evening ( in the main dining room )THROUGHOUT the entire ship except for casual dining in say the Oceanview Cafe etc--ie that would imply that all a casual dresser could do that evening is go to casual dining and then have to go back to one'e room if enforced.

 

Today I called Celebrity planning dep't and brought this up and the woman said "that's not correct-if on formal night in the main dining room you choose not to go the MDR you can dress casual and go anywhere else on the ship without question--bars, casino, nightly show etc etc"

 

Frankly, it does not make logical sense to me that on a Formal Night (dark suit and tie or tux) all anyone could do who did not have such outfits would be to go to casual dining on say the Lido deck etc and then have to go back to the room. So, I'm inclined to think that the woman in the planning dept was right-you can go anywhere else on the ship except the MDR on a Formal night.

 

Can experienced Celebrity guests please comment

 

On the thread you saw this on, go to the 2nd page. This thumb nail is scanned from the first daily when you board the ship.

 

dresscode.jpg

 

 

Like I said and another poster stated on that thread. I have seen people turned away from the shows for not dressing according to the required attire.

 

Now Solstice is a whole other ball game, as we are only getting bits and peices out to us. But I would be very surprise if the rules change.

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Solstice with 3000+ passengers will be totally different than the Celebrity of today and past years. With this many cabins to fill on a continual basis Celebrity will have to appeal to the entire cruise market and hence will have to conform to what all the other mainstream lines do.

 

There will be many more families and children.

 

There will be at least 50% if not 100% anytime dining versus traditional dining.

 

The dress is going to tend more towards Country Club Casual and very little if any formalwear.

 

With numerous dining venues throughout the ship they would be hardpressed to confine someone in casual clothing to only one area of the ship. The entire fleet of Celebrity ships will morph into this concept as there is no possible way to have different rules on different ships and still please their new passenger base.

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Solstice with 3000+ passengers will be totally different than the Celebrity of today and past years. With this many cabins to fill on a continual basis Celebrity will have to appeal to the entire cruise market and hence will have to conform to what all the other mainstream lines do.

 

There will be many more families and children.

 

There will be at least 50% if not 100% anytime dining versus traditional dining.

 

The dress is going to tend more towards Country Club Casual and very little if any formalwear.

 

With numerous dining venues throughout the ship they would be hardpressed to confine someone in casual clothing to only one area of the ship. The entire fleet of Celebrity ships will morph into this concept as there is no possible way to have different rules on different ships and still please their new passenger base.

 

Agree completely.

 

Having sailed on 2 ships with casual and open seating in the last month (Celebrity Xpedition and Oceania Insignia) and considering Equinox I couldn't be happier to see such a change.

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Solstice with 3000+ passengers will be totally different than the Celebrity of today and past years. With this many cabins to fill on a continual basis Celebrity will have to appeal to the entire cruise market and hence will have to conform to what all the other mainstream lines do.

 

There will be many more families and children.

 

There will be at least 50% if not 100% anytime dining versus traditional dining.

 

The dress is going to tend more towards Country Club Casual and very little if any formalwear.

 

With numerous dining venues throughout the ship they would be hardpressed to confine someone in casual clothing to only one area of the ship. The entire fleet of Celebrity ships will morph into this concept as there is no possible way to have different rules on different ships and still please their new passenger base.

 

That is why I said Solstice was a whole other ball game. They are still tweaking and changing things. For some people the formal feel is the draw.

 

Agree completely.

 

Having sailed on 2 ships with casual and open seating in the last month (Celebrity Xpedition and Oceania Insignia) and considering Equinox I couldn't be happier to see such a change.

 

That is one of the reason I loved Azamara. The casual attire was great!

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My husband is going to kill me dead if he has to stay in dress clothes all evening! :( :mad: :eek:

 

Guess I'll have to wait and see.

 

He won't have to do that.....and lets hope he won't do the other

either:eek:

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It depends on whether they enforce it or not. On my first cruise to Alaska last year, on formal night, I didn't realize (obviously I didn't read the daily very carefully!) went to the theatre in jeans!!! I saw everyone else dressed up and thought "oh crap! was I supposed to be dressed up?". I didn't eat in the dining room that night, and everyone was obviously coming from dinner.

 

I asked the staff at the door to the theatre before I went in and they allowed me in. I did feel extremely underdressed (I wanted to see the show, but didn't really have time to go back to my room to change, either), but they allowed me in.

 

Of course, it was after I got home and have now spent waaayy too much time on cc boards that I learned that I really was supposed to be dressed up! :o

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I actually like the fact that Celebrity request that the dress code be maintained throughout the ship. I know its not generally enforced, but I think more people tend to stay dressed up because it is requested.

 

My husband loves staying dressed up when it is requested, but said that if it is not he will change, probably because he doesn't want to be pretentious. That is one of the reasons we chose the Celebrity ship for our up-coming trans-Atlantic and not the Voyage of the Seas. That way I force my husband to be pretentious (:D). He does look good in his tux. I like my son and my daughter all dressed up too, and they tend to be on their best behavior when they are all gussied up.

 

I just really like the idea of the whole evening being formal and not just dining which is really only a small portion of the evening.

 

This is where that I feel the Solstice will miss the mark. Its so big and passengers have more choices, but I feel like that the "innovations" are leaving traditionalist like me behind.

 

Maybe they can work something out where they can extend the formal part of the evening to a lounge or additional activity, like the Captains Club party or Gala Formal Ball....I really hate to see that "formal Evening" turned into just a "formal dinner".

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We always adhere to the dress codes at dinner, and I enjoy dressing up. However, after dinner (late seating), my husband always changes into something more comfortable (usually jeans and a nice shirt), and has never had a problem.

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We are booked on Solstice in 2009

 

Recently on another thread ('tell me it isn't so") it was said that the Daily blubs sent on ship each day to staterooms state that one should/is required to observe the Dress Code in effect for that evening ( in the main dining room )THROUGHOUT the entire ship except for casual dining in say the Oceanview Cafe etc--ie that would imply that all a casual dresser could do that evening is go to casual dining and then have to go back to one'e room if enforced.

 

Today I called Celebrity planning dep't and brought this up and the woman said "that's not correct-if on formal night in the main dining room you choose not to go the MDR you can dress casual and go anywhere else on the ship without question--bars, casino, nightly show etc etc"

 

Frankly, it does not make logical sense to me that on a Formal Night (dark suit and tie or tux) all anyone could do who did not have such outfits would be to go to casual dining on say the Lido deck etc and then have to go back to the room. So, I'm inclined to think that the woman in the planning dept was right-you can go anywhere else on the ship except the MDR on a Formal night.

 

Can experienced Celebrity guests please comment

 

It never made any sense to me either. I've asked this question of the "dyed in the wool" X cruisers, who constantly whine about the declining formality on Celeb. NO ONE has given me a straight answer. There is no way we'd hide out in our rooms.

We always eat in the dining room and dress up on formal nights. On RCCL we change after dinner to be more comfortable for the evening. On X we haven't challenged the wardrobe police yet, but DH often takes off his jacket and sometimes his tie after entering the theater. In Jan, DH took out what he thought were his suit pants and realized he'd brought the wrong ones--navy instead of black. That's what happens when older eyes don't look at dark clothes in bright daylight. :eek: So he wore his black dockers with his black suit coat and no one was the wiser (and he was more comfortable). Who knows? He just might "accidently" goof next year on our future cruises. lol

Strictly speaking, the dress code is for the WHOLE evening. Certain posters have been hammering this point home for years on these boards.

It is interesting to me that the rep you spoke to denied it. Another instance of mixed messages. I've seen people in cut-offs and sandals in the theater on formal night, men in light-colored suits or sport coats in the dining room. I say if you're going to enforce the rule, enforce it. Otherwise, change it and be done with it. I see changes coming as newer, younger cruisers demand more informality. Hard-liners will just have to suck it up and adjust. :D

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We are leaving here for our first Celebrity cruise in two days and want to make a query in regard to dress on casual nights.

 

We are not sure if we have the same terminology here. Are what we call collared T shirts ok for men on casual nights. I think you may refer to them as polos. We are packing now and are trying to include things that will not crease as much.

 

Your assistance would be very appreciated.

 

Dianne

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We are leaving here for our first Celebrity cruise in two days and want to make a query in regard to dress on casual nights.

 

We are not sure if we have the same terminology here. Are what we call collared T shirts ok for men on casual nights. I think you may refer to them as polos. We are packing now and are trying to include things that will not crease as much.

 

Your assistance would be very appreciated.

 

Dianne

 

Yes, if you are referring to "polo" or "golf" type shirts, you will be fine on casual nights.

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I see changes coming as newer, younger cruisers demand more informality. Hard-liners will just have to suck it up and adjust. :D

 

Not all younger cruisers want more informality! We'd love it if every night was formal night. We love getting dressed up (my husband purchased an entire cruise wardrobe for formal evenings, and we're university students!) and never change until we've returned to our staterooms for the evening.

 

What I'd like to see on Solstice is a casual area of the ship- maybe with some sort of entertainment in the Casual Boulevard for guests who don't wish to eat in the MDR or dress formally. This way they would have options in the evening without bucking the dress code.

 

Practical or not, unlike RCCL where the dress code is just for the dining room, on Celebrity it is for the entire ship, and I don't recall seeing many people change after dinner.

 

To the people who claim formalwear is uncomfortable, are you wearing the correct size? I've never found my formalwear to be any less comfortable than regular clothes, and my husband says the same. Properly sized formalwear should not be uncomfortable.

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To the people who claim formalwear is uncomfortable, are you wearing the correct size? I've never found my formalwear to be any less comfortable than regular clothes, and my husband says the same. Properly sized formalwear should not be uncomfortable.

Hi SusieV, I was thinking the exact same thing. If your clothing is properly fitted, there's no reason why you should feel uncomfortable, whether you're in jeans or a tux.

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I see changes coming as newer, younger cruisers demand more informality. Hard-liners will just have to suck it up and adjust. :D

 

I disagree with you on this. Instead of complaining about the formal requirements on Celebrity, maybe the "newer younger cruisers" need to suck it up and look into one of the many other cruise lines that will fit their needs of a less than formal environment. Leave the formal cruising to those that want it.

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I think that Carry On Cruising hit the nail on the head--2850 guest brand new ship (Solstice) will likely require material slackening of dress code in order to fill up and Celebrity has known that for some time as the trend is already towards more casual approach on even exisiting ships of competitors.

 

My sense is that up till now Celebrity has purposely kept the written words in and ALSO purposely decided to "never" enforce it, except in individual cases of flagrant casual on Formal nights--eg the guy wanting to get into the Show in jean shorts and a tee shirt. What Celebrity is really saying is that on Formal nights for eg as long as a man shows up to the MDR on a Formal night wearing a sports jacket and tie he'll be fine and same thing applies to a woman wearing a nice blouse and skirt--"but we can't just change our written words on our website or the daily sheets since to do so would entice a much greater % of our guests to forget the tux or dark suit..this way we (Celebrity) get the best of both worlds by simply staying silent in practice

 

The question may soon be--given that Solstice is due by Dec08 and there is going to be a real need to soon sell it out for say 1 year in advance (since state of art)---will Celebrity feel the need to actually change the written words on dress code? Will enough new cruisers to Celebrity make the switch from competitors (or book as a first time cruiser) without written changes?.

 

My sense is that Solstice may well break the ice here and cause Celebrity to change the words prior to December so that it is clear

 

We don't go out till Fall 09 so we can wait--gg

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This is always such a hot topic. When we did our RT LA to Hawaii in 2006, all the men in our party rented tuxes and I have to say a very large percentage of the other passengers also did so. Did everyone look really spiffy all evening? Well hell, yes! Does it give a really special feeling to the evening? Yes, again.

 

But I really feel that Celebrity is fighting a losing battle here with the "informal" nights. We recently did a Princess cruise where they have "smart casual" and "formal" nights and we liked it a lot. But on formal nights, I would guess 30% were in casual clothes so it didn't feel as special. DH, DS, SIL just brought suits and looked great ( as did the ladies, of course) so we could have a formal picture taken. But if they could have skipped it, I think they would have.

 

Cruising is moving rapidly away from an environment where only the privileged traveled this way to mass market for all. Let's face it, this is a business and the bottom line is to fill the cabins by any means possible. Carnival has even lowered it dress code so as to allow jeans & shorts in the dining room and formal night is only a suggestion. I didn't think they could get any more casual!

 

With the increasing weight and baggage restrictions on the aircraft, it is very hard to pack all those clothes for more than a 7 day cruise. We live in the Midwest so driving to a port is not an option for us.

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I don't get those that complain about the formal requirements on Celebrity. Should we complain about the lack of formal requirements on NCL? Look at their ad on the internet where they have the paperdoll figures with the clothes., it gives the impression that you can wear swimsuits to dinner (don't know if that is true - but that is what the ad suggests).

That is what is good about having so many lines under so few cruise corporations - there is something for everyone. If everything was the same on each line there would just be one line per cruise corporation.

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