cac123 Posted November 8, 2008 #1 Share Posted November 8, 2008 My wife and I are considering a 2 week hawaii cruise on princess. I have had problems controlling my gambling in the past and wonder if the casino offers any self exclusion programs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted November 8, 2008 #2 Share Posted November 8, 2008 You might ask this on the Princess boards, but Iv never heard of such a program. What you might do is not allow any spending on your account. (I think its all or nothing, no $$$ limit). I do that with my sister who isnt mentally sharp to stop someone from taking advantage of her and we charge everything to me if she wants something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnIreland Posted November 8, 2008 #3 Share Posted November 8, 2008 If it helps, NCL don't even have a casino on their Hawaii cruises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eeyoregon Posted November 8, 2008 #4 Share Posted November 8, 2008 If it helps, NCL don't even have a casino on their Hawaii cruises Good point. You have to be in international waters in order for the casino to be open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry and Lucille Posted November 8, 2008 #5 Share Posted November 8, 2008 If the ship goes only to US ports there is no casino. International waters don't make the difference. The ship has to stop in a port out of the country before casinos are allowed to open or play. That is why cruise lines to Hawaii always hit Ensenada, Mexico when they come or go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eeyoregon Posted November 8, 2008 #6 Share Posted November 8, 2008 (edited) If the ship goes only to US ports there is no casino. International waters don't make the difference. The ship has to stop in a port out of the country before casinos are allowed to open or play. That is why cruise lines to Hawaii always hit Ensenada, Mexico when they come or go. Interesting but not accurate. On our NCL cruise the captain told me at the captains gala that a ship HAD to be in International waters for the casino and duty free shops to be open. That is also what was being announced over the PA and in the daily navigators. We left out of Seattle and once we had hit international waters, everything opened up for business and closed as soon as we hit US waters again. We were in the casino and they gave us a countdown as to when the slot machines would turn off...it was like beat the clock gambling, LOL. The stop in a foreign port is a requirement for all ships. On our Alaska cruise we did not dock in a foreign country (Canada) until our last night and the shops and casino were open daily because we were in international waters. Edited November 8, 2008 by Eeyoregon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fann1sh Posted November 9, 2008 #7 Share Posted November 9, 2008 NCL doesn't have a casino on Hawaii cruises because that was the deal made when NCL obtained the legislated exception to cruise Hawaii without foreign port stops. IIRC, Daniel Inouye insisted on the provision to back the legislation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb at sea Posted November 9, 2008 #8 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Just don't go into the casino! Most of them take cash, so putting a "hold" on your account won't work. This one is totally up to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanJ Posted November 9, 2008 #9 Share Posted November 9, 2008 I'm afraid you will probably be left to your own willpower. If it helps any, at least the casino can be avoided. When leaving the Princess Theater, make sure you go up the stairs and out the back of the theater, which is on deck 7. The lower exits at the side go right into the casino on deck 6. I know it's a problem not taken too seriously by many people who haven't seen it first hand, but having seen the way my uncle has basically blown his retirement with his, I can only wish you well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cac123 Posted November 15, 2008 Author #10 Share Posted November 15, 2008 For all of you following this thread the answer I got from Princess is YES they do offer a self exclusion policy. Thx to all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted November 16, 2008 #11 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I wonder how they identify you if using cash? How do they know you have requested 'self exclusion' unless you present yourself to Casino staff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleCow Posted November 16, 2008 #12 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I was surprised to see that, on our recents cruises to Hawaii and Alaska on HAL, the casinos and shops were open every evening. I had kind of assumed that we would be remaining in US waters as we were visiting only (except for the mandatory quick one) US ports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semi Retired Posted November 16, 2008 #13 Share Posted November 16, 2008 International waters is the key to a corporation enabling themselves to promote gambling without laws of the land. International waters are only a few miles from land. When I lived in Victoria, BC, Canada (many moons ago when there was NO gambling aloud in city) we used to take "gambling cruises" on a local ship that just went a few miles out and we gambled while still seeing the city lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted November 16, 2008 #14 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Same here in Massachusetts. There is a gambling boat that goes out the required number of miles and the slots machines are turned on. No slots permitted in MA right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuyahoga11 Posted November 16, 2008 #15 Share Posted November 16, 2008 For all of you following this thread the answer I got from Princess is YES they do offer a self exclusion policy. Thx to all Could you explain how they do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Born Posted November 17, 2008 #16 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Well, I'm sure you could actually get by playing, BUT if you were to hit a "hand pay-out" jackpot, they really wouldn't have to pay you, so why would you want to take that chance? I know I wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollywood34711 Posted November 17, 2008 #17 Share Posted November 17, 2008 If you really wanted to make it easy on yourself, go on a Disney Cruise, no casino that I know of on the Magic or Wonder. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnIreland Posted November 17, 2008 #18 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Could you explain how they do this? Not sure about Princess , but I know on NCL they swip your room card even when buying chips with cash... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cac123 Posted November 18, 2008 Author #19 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Could you explain how they do this? From The letter my TA got in response to my enquiry "CCCD ( presumably Carnival Cruises Casino Division?) provides the option for players to self exclude (ban) themselves from our Casino facilites. We aim to do this by providing an enviroment that ensures the matter is dealt with sensitively, confidentially and in a timely manner. Self exclusion (self ban) is when a Guest approaches one of our casino staff and asks to be excluded. Information should be provided upon request and the exclusion processed as soon as practicable -generally immediately." The Princess ( owned by Carnival ) rep also told my TA that this ban is irrevocable for the duration of the cruise. This is similar to a policy in the jurisdiction in which I live (BC Canada) where I have banned myself from the local casino. My picture was taken and casino staff are diligent. Although fortunatly I have not tested it here-I know thos who have. They have been asked to leave within mopments of stepping in the door of the casino. Hope this helps- cac123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgoundan Posted January 18, 2017 #20 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I am unable to control my gambling. Any way I can avoid the casino during my cruise on the NCL Star? I emailed NCL and they don't have a way to exclude me from the casino. Is it in a very prominent area of the ship? I don't want my addiction to ruin my vacation I've looked forward to for many months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb at sea Posted January 18, 2017 #21 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Pride of America, an NCL ship, has NO casino. Neither does any Disney ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookwife Posted January 18, 2017 #22 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I am unable to control my gambling. Any way I can avoid the casino during my cruise on the NCL Star? I emailed NCL and they don't have a way to exclude me from the casino. Is it in a very prominent area of the ship? I don't want my addiction to ruin my vacation I've looked forward to for many months. You are on your own. Going forward you may want to stick to Disney as they do not have Casinos at all Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crystalspin Posted January 18, 2017 #23 Share Posted January 18, 2017 kgoundan The casino on the N.Star is on Deck 6 forward of the midship elevator bank; it is just aft of the forward elevators. Between midship and the Casino -- you may want to avoid the Art Gallery, La Cucina, Le Bistro, Gatsby's Champagne Bar, the Wine Cellar, and obviously the Star Club Casino Bar. Aft of the midship stairwell is Aqua Main Dining Room and aft of the aft elevators/stairs is the Versailles MDR. I do not know which MDR is open seating and which is fixed; you may want to find out on the NCL board here, and if not totally repugnant to you, get yourself assigned to the Versailles. Whichever dining room you are in, when you leave dinner -- go immediately to Deck 7 (or higher, or to your cabin's deck). Do not go forward of the mid-ship elevators on Deck 6! If you want to go to the theater, go either via deck 7 to the higher balcony or down to deck 5, through the stateroom corridors, to the lower level. Do not use the middle balcony to view the show. So with the specialty wine and champagne bars and the French and Italian upcharge restaurants NOT THERE FOR YOU, you still have a lot of choices for food and drink beyond the Versailles MDR: Deck 7: the Java/Attrium Cafe, Ginza Restaurant, Teppanyaki Room, the Sushi and Sake Bar. For drinks, the 5 O'clock Somewhere bar, or be served in the Spinnaker Lounge. Deck 8: O'Sheehans Bar&Grill. Deck 12: the free buffet Market Cafe, and the poolside Topsiders Bar and the Grill (may only be available lunch/afternoon?). Deck 13: the Moderno Churrascaria, Cagney's Steakhouse, and the Sugarcane Mojito Bar, all around the midship elevator column. And access to the Bier Garten on "deck 14". Whether or not you want to avoid drinking as well, there are places to spend time or distract yourself, including the walking track on deck 13 and the Promenade on deck 7. It's four+ years since I was on the N.Star, but there were places for sitting, reading, playing board games with others, etc -- that are not on the deck plans. Explore the ship, just not Deck 6 forward of the dining rooms! Be sure to get off the ship in ports, do something to treat yourself, and have a wonderful time! PS here is the link to the NCL board to ask questions about the N.Star and get directions to your Roll Call (forum for people on your specific cruise). If you have contacts and activities like a Meet&Greet before your cruise, that's more distractions from your nemesis. http://boards.cruisecritic.com/forumdisplay.php?f=107 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamasylvia Posted January 18, 2017 #24 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I don't have any helpful info but I admire you for recognizing your limitations and taking steps to make sure your weakness doesn't ruin your cruise! We are all vulnerable to different temptations. I hope you have a wonderful cruise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveH2508 Posted January 18, 2017 #25 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I am unable to control my gambling. Any way I can avoid the casino during my cruise on the NCL Star? I emailed NCL and they don't have a way to exclude me from the casino. Is it in a very prominent area of the ship? I don't want my addiction to ruin my vacation I've looked forward to for many months. In extremis: 1. Do not have charging privileges on your room card 2. Do not carry cash - leave it in the safe (maybe have your partner only know the combination) If you are travelling solo then 'geographical' limitation and distraction activities are probably the only way. Take it one day at a time - good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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