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firefly333

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You might ask this on the Princess boards, but Iv never heard of such a program.

 

What you might do is not allow any spending on your account. (I think its all or nothing, no $$$ limit). I do that with my sister who isnt mentally sharp to stop someone from taking advantage of her and we charge everything to me if she wants something.

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Eeyoregon

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If the ship goes only to US ports there is no casino. International waters don't make the difference. The ship has to stop in a port out of the country before casinos are allowed to open or play. That is why cruise lines to Hawaii always hit Ensenada, Mexico when they come or go.

 

Interesting but not accurate. On our NCL cruise the captain told me at the captains gala that a ship HAD to be in International waters for the casino and duty free shops to be open. That is also what was being announced over the PA and in the daily navigators. We left out of Seattle and once we had hit international waters, everything opened up for business and closed as soon as we hit US waters again. We were in the casino and they gave us a countdown as to when the slot machines would turn off...it was like beat the clock gambling, LOL. The stop in a foreign port is a requirement for all ships.

 

On our Alaska cruise we did not dock in a foreign country (Canada) until our last night and the shops and casino were open daily because we were in international waters.

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fann1sh

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NCL doesn't have a casino on Hawaii cruises because that was the deal made when NCL obtained the legislated exception to cruise Hawaii without foreign port stops. IIRC, Daniel Inouye insisted on the provision to back the legislation.

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I'm afraid you will probably be left to your own willpower. If it helps any, at least the casino can be avoided. When leaving the Princess Theater, make sure you go up the stairs and out the back of the theater, which is on deck 7. The lower exits at the side go right into the casino on deck 6.

 

I know it's a problem not taken too seriously by many people who haven't seen it first hand, but having seen the way my uncle has basically blown his retirement with his, I can only wish you well.

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I was surprised to see that, on our recents cruises to Hawaii and Alaska on HAL, the casinos and shops were open every evening. I had kind of assumed that we would be remaining in US waters as we were visiting only (except for the mandatory quick one) US ports.

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Semi Retired

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International waters is the key to a corporation enabling themselves to promote gambling without laws of the land. International waters are only a few miles from land.

When I lived in Victoria, BC, Canada (many moons ago when there was NO gambling aloud in city) we used to take "gambling cruises" on a local ship that just went a few miles out and we gambled while still seeing the city lights.

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cac123

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Could you explain how they do this?

From The letter my TA got in response to my enquiry

 

"CCCD ( presumably Carnival Cruises Casino Division?) provides the option for players to self exclude (ban) themselves from our Casino facilites. We aim to do this by providing an enviroment that ensures the matter is dealt with sensitively, confidentially and in a timely manner.

 

Self exclusion (self ban) is when a Guest approaches one of our casino staff and asks to be excluded. Information should be provided upon request and the exclusion processed as soon as practicable -generally immediately."

 

The Princess ( owned by Carnival ) rep also told my TA that this ban is irrevocable for the duration of the cruise.

 

This is similar to a policy in the jurisdiction in which I live (BC Canada) where I have banned myself from the local casino. My picture was taken and casino staff are diligent. Although fortunatly I have not tested it here-I know thos who have. They have been asked to leave within mopments of stepping in the door of the casino.

 

Hope this helps-

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kgoundan

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I am unable to control my gambling. Any way I can avoid the casino during my cruise on the NCL Star? I emailed NCL and they don't have a way to exclude me from the casino. Is it in a very prominent area of the ship? I don't want my addiction to ruin my vacation I've looked forward to for many months.

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spookwife

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I am unable to control my gambling. Any way I can avoid the casino during my cruise on the NCL Star? I emailed NCL and they don't have a way to exclude me from the casino. Is it in a very prominent area of the ship? I don't want my addiction to ruin my vacation I've looked forward to for many months.

 

 

You are on your own. Going forward you may want to stick to Disney as they do not have Casinos at all

 

 

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kgoundan

 

The casino on the N.Star is on Deck 6 forward of the midship elevator bank; it is just aft of the forward elevators. Between midship and the Casino -- you may want to avoid the Art Gallery, La Cucina, Le Bistro, Gatsby's Champagne Bar, the Wine Cellar, and obviously the Star Club Casino Bar.

 

Aft of the midship stairwell is Aqua Main Dining Room and aft of the aft elevators/stairs is the Versailles MDR. I do not know which MDR is open seating and which is fixed; you may want to find out on the NCL board here, and if not totally repugnant to you, get yourself assigned to the Versailles.

 

Whichever dining room you are in, when you leave dinner -- go immediately to Deck 7 (or higher, or to your cabin's deck). Do not go forward of the mid-ship elevators on Deck 6! If you want to go to the theater, go either via deck 7 to the higher balcony or down to deck 5, through the stateroom corridors, to the lower level. Do not use the middle balcony to view the show.

 

So with the specialty wine and champagne bars and the French and Italian upcharge restaurants NOT THERE FOR YOU, you still have a lot of choices for food and drink beyond the Versailles MDR:

 

Deck 7: the Java/Attrium Cafe, Ginza Restaurant, Teppanyaki Room, the Sushi and Sake Bar. For drinks, the 5 O'clock Somewhere bar, or be served in the Spinnaker Lounge.

 

Deck 8: O'Sheehans Bar&Grill.

 

Deck 12: the free buffet Market Cafe, and the poolside Topsiders Bar and the Grill (may only be available lunch/afternoon?).

 

Deck 13: the Moderno Churrascaria, Cagney's Steakhouse, and the Sugarcane Mojito Bar, all around the midship elevator column. And access to the Bier Garten on "deck 14".

 

Whether or not you want to avoid drinking as well, there are places to spend time or distract yourself, including the walking track on deck 13 and the Promenade on deck 7. It's four+ years since I was on the N.Star, but there were places for sitting, reading, playing board games with others, etc -- that are not on the deck plans. Explore the ship, just not Deck 6 forward of the dining rooms!

 

Be sure to get off the ship in ports, do something to treat yourself, and have a wonderful time!

 

PS here is the link to the NCL board to ask questions about the N.Star and get directions to your Roll Call (forum for people on your specific cruise). If you have contacts and activities like a Meet&Greet before your cruise, that's more distractions from your nemesis.

 

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/forumdisplay.php?f=107

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SteveH2508

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I am unable to control my gambling. Any way I can avoid the casino during my cruise on the NCL Star? I emailed NCL and they don't have a way to exclude me from the casino. Is it in a very prominent area of the ship? I don't want my addiction to ruin my vacation I've looked forward to for many months.

 

In extremis:

 

1. Do not have charging privileges on your room card

2. Do not carry cash - leave it in the safe (maybe have your partner only know the combination)

 

If you are travelling solo then 'geographical' limitation and distraction activities are probably the only way.

 

Take it one day at a time - good luck!

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