Dress Code

[CraftyEC]

Should have added - but obviously not at any time in the main restaurant.

Well, the quoted information does say 'not after 18:00 in the dining room. I'm sure I've seen smart / clean jeans in the MDR during the day (breakfast certainly, possibly lunch, although I wouldn't swear to the latter)

[lincslady]

Well, the quoted information does say 'not after 18:00 in the dining room. I'm sure I've seen smart / clean jeans in the MDR during the day (breakfast certainly, possibly lunch, although I wouldn't swear to the latter)

 

Mea culpa CraftyEC - of course I meant 'after 6 p.m. Jeans should be fine in the restaurant for any meal before that time. Sorry.:)

[JPH814]

So this would infer that jeans ARE allowed in any venue (including deck grills) on all nights ,except the Formal Optional Night . On a 2 week cruise i did recently there was only one Formal Optional night.

 

No - Simple english grammar. if you assume the punctuation is correct, there are two equal clauses on either side of the "and".

 

"jeans - not allowed in the restaurant after 1800 hours

and

not in any venue (including deck grills) on Formal nights."

 

When you add the comma, you change the meaning of the sentance.

 

Why are people so anxious to break the rules and class down the experience?

[HappyFeet13]

Solutions:

1) Corduroys. They sell them like jeans. They fit like jeans. They are tailored like jeans. They are as durable as jeans. They come in different colors. They are acceptable during the day, on excursions, and at night.

2) Or...buy some chinos at Sportif. They have a little stretch in them. VERY comfortable. They come in different weights. The heavier weight is about the same as jeans. They, like corduroys, are durable like jeans and come in other colors...but tan goes anywhere anytime. They are acceptable anywhere.

For cruisers, who need "multi-purpose" clothes, Sportif tan chinos and a couple of pairs of cords are an anywhere, anytime solution and go as well with a sport jacket as with a golf shirt.

3) And add some Merell slip-on shoes. The "brushed leather" look that never need to be polished. Easy to get on and off for security at airports, can be worn anywhere, and are insanely comfortable.

[lincslady]

Jim in Florida - I can only agree. I do wear jeans often in the daytime, anywhere on a ship, but find it difficult to see why a few people are so obsessed with wearing them, as opposed to the alternatives you describe, that they seem unhappy to change in the evening!

[Love transatlantics]

Jim in Florida - I can only agree. I do wear jeans often in the daytime, anywhere on a ship, but find it difficult to see why a few people are so obsessed with wearing them, as opposed to the alternatives you describe, that they seem unhappy to change in the evening!

 

I heartily agree with you Lincslady

[Mr Luxury]

Solutions:

1) Corduroys. They sell them like jeans. They fit like jeans. They are tailored like jeans. They are as durable as jeans. They come in different colors. They are acceptable during the day, on excursions, and at night.

2) Or...buy some chinos at Sportif. They have a little stretch in them. VERY comfortable. They come in different weights. The heavier weight is about the same as jeans. They, like corduroys, are durable like jeans and come in other colors...but tan goes anywhere anytime. They are acceptable anywhere.

For cruisers, who need "multi-purpose" clothes, Sportif tan chinos and a couple of pairs of cords are an anywhere, anytime solution and go as well with a sport jacket as with a golf shirt.

3) And add some Merell slip-on shoes. The "brushed leather" look that never need to be polished. Easy to get on and off for security at airports, can be worn anywhere, and are insanely comfortable.

 

Jim,ofcourse your perspective is from an American from Florida.:)

 

A British Gentleman has a different sartorial approach.;)

 

Wear a pair of jeans anywhere on a ship.just not after 18.00 hours

Edited January 31, 2013 by Mr Luxury

[wripro]

Is Jim's perspective as an American from Florida different from that of an American from Washington?

[Love transatlantics]

No - Simple english grammar. if you assume the punctuation is correct, there are two equal clauses on either side of the "and".

 

"jeans - not allowed in the restaurant after 1800 hours

and

not in any venue (including deck grills) on Formal nights."

 

When you add the comma, you change the meaning of the sentance.

 

Why are people so anxious to break the rules and class down the experience?

 

Oh Dear, a retired school teacher ?

[Mr Luxury]

Is Jim's perspective as an American from Florida different from that of an American from Washington?

 

Hopefully.:)

Edited February 2, 2013 by Mr Luxury

[debijaynes]

Hopefully.:)

 

 

 

As a fellow Floridian, very different. Those of us in South Florida hate to wear jeans due to the sweat gluing them to our legs. And after all, why would one wear jeans with all the lovely options available!

[lincslady]

As a fellow Floridian, very different. Those of us in South Florida hate to wear jeans due to the sweat gluing them to our legs. And after all, why would one wear jeans with all the lovely options available!

 

Have to agree on that - jeans are horrible in very hot weather (which we do not often experience chez nous!) but I do just like the very casual ambience they seem to provide generally. I always wear cotton trousers in the day, and sometimes in the evening on board for casual nights, when they seem to be perfectly acceptable, and the same applies to my husband.

[debijaynes]

So, In looking forward to our first Seabourne cruise maybe this will be an easy question-

Is the dress code similar to Regent? We are doing both this year and are very happy with the Regent dress code. Any comments would be welcome!

[wripro]

I believe Regent has no formal optional nights whereas Seabourn does. This doesn't mean that you have to bring a tuxedo and gowns. A suit or blazer will be fine in the main restaurant. Otherwise the dress codes are pretty similar.

[Mr Luxury]

I met a lot of Regent defectors on a recent Seabourn trip,they seemed to fit in ok and most that I talked to will not be returning to Regent.

[cwn]

We cruise both...Regent is more casual than Seabourn. DH does not take a sports coat on Regent trips as non is ever required in the MDR. On Seabourn, the dress code requires a jacket most nights in the MDR except the first and last and maybe one more.

 

But that bit of bother for DH is off set by the better service and over all better food offerred on Seabourn. We enjoy both lines, but Seabourn is our favorite of the two.

[HappyFeet13]

We are aboard the Seabourn Sojourn now. We are on our 2nd "sea day" enroute from BA and Montevideo to the Falklands and then around the Horn ending in Valparaiso. Our first "formal night" was last night. I would estimate that of the 450 passengers aboard, about 225 of them went to the formal "Captains Reception" from 6:45 to 7:30. Don't know why such a low turnout...maybe it's because many didn't feel their attire was "formal" enough to go through the reception line and meet the Captain and senior staff. That's when we started to estimate the % of men in tux's. Then we went to the main dining room, which was nearly full...say 400 passengers. Our estimate is that 70% of men did NOT wear tux's. The majority wore dark suits and traditional tie. We'd guess 95% of the women wore black or white or both. VERY monochromatic. This is a MUCH lower percentage of men in tux's than we have ever seen on a Seabourn cruise. But it may be that we are going to a lot of very rustic ports that require rugged outdoor clothing and we will be in cold weather most of the time.

[Mr Luxury]

But it may be that we are going to a lot of very rustic ports that require rugged outdoor clothing and we will be in cold weather most of the time.

 

I cannot see what difference ports and temperature make to how a Gentleman dresses for dinner.

 

It could be laziness or ill fitting clothes to blame.

A good tailor is probably needed.

[wripro]

Or maybe it's just keeping up with the times. What a "gentleman" wears to dinner has changed from generation to generation and will continue to evolve.

[HappyFeet13]

I've asked several people about why they chose to wear what they did. Virtually everyone said that this trip is the toughest to pack for. Hot weather at the beginning and end of the trip, and cold, colder, weather in the middle. Also, this cruise has a lot of outdoor walking/hiking/canoeing/horseback things and ports that are EXTREMELY rustic, and is very different than packing for other cruises that go to cities and major ports. That said, I packed a tux and wore it last night. I do that for my wife who goes to a lot of trouble to dress up occasionally in more formal attire, and she loves the chance to do so. It is unfair of me to not dress to suit her efforts. I only have to do that a few times a year, and I can live with that. It is not a terrible hardship for me to pack a tux instead of a suit and a bow tie instead of a long tie. Frankly, my opinion is that the 75% of the guys at dinner last night that wore suits didn't look worthy of the women they were escorting.

[CraftyEC]

A very valid point, Jim, that for the men the 'extra' space taken up by a dinner suit (tuxedo) is minimal if they were planning on taking a lounge suit. I will encourage DH to take his DJ and one sports jacket for our 19 day cruise, and I will probably pack one fairly formal outfit and then some evening trousers and a few 'posh' tops. That will take about the same space. Now shoes are a different matter ...

[Mr Luxury]

Or maybe it's just keeping up with the times. What a "gentleman" wears to dinner has changed from generation to generation and will continue to evolve.

 

That is also correct Henry

[Mr Luxury]

I packed a tux and wore it last night. I do that for my wife who goes to a lot of trouble to dress up occasionally in more formal attire, and she loves the chance to do so. It is unfair of me to not dress to suit her efforts. I only have to do that a few times a year, and I can live with that. It is not a terrible hardship for me to pack a tux instead of a suit and a bow tie instead of a long tie. Frankly, my opinion is that the 75% of the guys at dinner last night that wore suits didn't look worthy of the women they were escorting.

 

That is exactly the point Jim.

Some men miss this point, and it is courteous to compliment the ladies after they have taken so much trouble and effort to look so good.

Well done Sir.

Edited February 6, 2013 by Mr Luxury

[wripro]

I agree that if one is dressing in a tuxedo to please his spouse that is a very valid reason. That is one's own dress code though, not Seabourn's.

[cwn]

I agree that if one is dressing in a tuxedo to please his spouse that is a very valid reason. That is one's own dress code though, not Seabourn's.

 

Well said!

 

I, for one do not like to drag cocktail or evening dresses along when we are traveling and I will not take my good jewelry. A sports coats is just fine for my husband, we are both happy and within the Seabourn dress code.

 

The 2 to 4 week cruise is always just part of our trips with land portions on both ends. When we travel, it is for at least a month. Our 2012,19 day Seabourn Viking cruise was part of a two month trip. I wouldn't dream of taking outfits for both of us that we would wear just one of two nights out of 60!

 

Not everyone who loves the pampering/luxury Seabourn offers likes to travel with formal dress. Fortunately some luxury cruise lines realize that every one has a different style and set their dress code to suit those differenting styles.

 

With in the limits of the ship's dress code......dressing for dinner is always a matter of personal taste....as it should be.